Tired of hearing "if he is only attracted to whats between my legs" / ->-bleeped-<-s

[Lily]

The problem with ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s is that they are not into men or women but they are into the discrepancy between your upper and your lower body.
They look up and see woman with breasts and feminine face. They look down and see male parts.
I  find this  similar to blond ->-bleeped-<-s or people of color or what ever ->-bleeped-<-s. They are not into you because of WHO you are but because of WHAT you are.

I dated in the past people of different race, different levels of femininity/masculinity body shape or size. I was attracted to these people for who they were and not because of what they were. I know people who date only Asians or only African Americans. I find that almost equally disturbing with people who'd date only Transsexuals.
One could argue some people love Asian or African American, southern or East Coast culture. But to my knowledge there is no Transsexual culture but only this physical discrepancy between what they see in your face and between your legs.
Now if someone found me interesting or attractive because of some of my masculine/feminine attributes i.e. muscular body or attitude that would be fine with me. As long as they are not hoping to find a penis in my pants but rather are able to handle it's presence or the fact that it will be replaced by vagina one day I am fine.

Couldn't you say the same about anyone who isn't bi? The majority of people either ONLY date men or ONLY date women.

How is someone who likes physical discrepancy different from someone who likes physical conformity? If it's weird for a guy to only like transgirls, shouldn't it be equally weird if he only likes cisgirls, or is that acceptable because it's "normal?"

[envie]

The difference is as I already mentioned between someone being attracted to you for who and not what you are.
There is of course no clear cut as it seems like you want it to be. People have their sexual orientation and that is normal regardless of what gender they end up being attracted to.
Its the WHAT as oppose to WHO you are. They are only after that "thing" or fetish that you are or have as oppose to after the person you are.
It is also so that I don't enjoy being transsexual or being pre-op. If people are into it then a ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- is the right choice for them.
i wouldn't like to be admired for the condition I am in.
Imagine if you lost a leg or were born without feet and then there is someone after you precisely because you don't have your limbs.
That is at least how I feel about it for myself.

[MsDazzler]

I used to hate ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s, but I ve come to realize that they do have their virtues.... like for example, there is no need to go into agonizing details about how you were in the wrong body growing up, etc, etc. There is also no need to defend your decision to be transgender. There is no need to have that "talk" or "big revelation".

Of course, if that ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- is closeted and wants your relationship to be on the side, then that is a whole different ball game.

[Mahsa Tezani]

The difference is as I already mentioned between someone being attracted to you for who and not what you are.
There is of course no clear cut as it seems like you want it to be. People have their sexual orientation and that is normal regardless of what gender they end up being attracted to.
Its the WHAT as oppose to WHO you are. They are only after that "thing" or fetish that you are or have as oppose to after the person you are.
It is also so that I don't enjoy being transsexual or being pre-op. If people are into it then a ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- is the right choice for them.
i wouldn't like to be admired for the condition I am in.
Imagine if you lost a leg or were born without feet and then there is someone after you precisely because you don't have your limbs.
That is at least how I feel about it for myself.

Even if you get the srs...you still have to contend with other things that make a person transsexual: bone structure, hands, etc.

->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s are into post ops too.

[Forever21Chic]

Even if you get the srs...you still have to contend with other things that make a person transsexual: bone structure, hands, etc.

->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s are into post ops too.

  Some ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s are really weird....i had this one TC pm me here on susan's saying he thought i was very beautiful and that he wanted to lick my feet.   

[Mahsa Tezani]

  Some ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-s are really weird....i had this one TC pm me here on susan's saying he thought i was very beautiful and that he wanted to lick my feet. 

That hasn't happened to me yet... See, it pays to be a bitch.

Are they even allowed on this board?

[Forever21Chic]

Are they even allowed on this board?

  Yes, they run free on this board like the antelope runs free on the plains. 

[Mahsa Tezani]

  Yes, they run free on this board like the antelope runs free on the plains. 

Ever had antelope meat? IT IS DA BOMB!!!!

[Forever21Chic]

Ever had antelope meat? IT IS DA BOMB!!!!

  No 

  I've eaten buffalo but that's about it for exotic meats. 

[Mahsa Tezani]

  No 

  I've eaten buffalo but that's about it for exotic meats. 

I've ate many exotic meats: filipino, cuban, turkish, german

wait, we're talking about food right?

[Forever21Chic]

I've ate many exotic meats: filipino, cuban, turkish, german

  OMGOSH Elle tmi girl! 

wait, we're talking about food right?

  Jez meat. 

[AbraCadabra]

Elle is ONE meat eater it seems, eh.
No one mentioned crocodile meat yet, it comes off its tail, no less...
I ate it, - it's a bit like chicken... then it bit me between the legs 2 month ago.
Maybe just for revenge? :-)

Back on topic...:
In fairness some ->-bleeped-<-s can be very sweet --- so it can be tricky to sort through this "for who, and for what you are" stuff.

It's tough to send someone off - 'cause he purports to like you - but seems to only qualify for the "what" part.
How does one KNOW???!

Elle having been around the block... any helpful insights?

Axelle

[Rabbit]

I think maybe some trans people have trouble with the non-binary thing (just like people outside the community). Afterall, we are all raised in environments where things are binary... it seems "right".

So, when they finally decide that being at one side of the binary isn't for them and they start to transition... in their mind, the only possible "right" thing is to go to the other binary.

If someone is attracted to them as a girl because they are hot or have girl parts... that is totally fine. That is what is expected, that is "normal", that is part of what being a binary is (and attraction / sex in general).

But, if they are still in the middle... and someone is attracted to them for what they are at that point... they don't think it is right. They feel their bodies are still broken and not in the zone of "normal" yet.

A lot really are binary... but, I think maybe some just have trouble with being different

[Mahsa Tezani]

Elle having been around the block... any helpful insights?

Don't be fooled by the rocks that I've got, I'm still I'm still Elle from around the block.

[envie]

Actually I prefer the gender be the last thing some one would be attracted to in regards to me.
There is nothing transsexual about the books I read, my interests in social justice, art, music etc.
I prefer to be attractive to someone for my personality and the activities I do.
I'd like to be attractive human who happens to be a transsexual and not the other way around.
There is no gender binary in my mind, I'd like to through the gender into the garbage can.
I don't want to be liked for my male nor female parts.

I'd even go so far to say I'd be rather admired for being good sexual partner as this is something I DO and not something I simply happen to be.

[envie]

It's tough to send someone off - 'cause he purports to like you - but seems to only qualify for the "what" part.
How does one KNOW???!
Axelle

I suppose you get to know each other a little and see what is the motivation beyond his interest.
Someone who is only into "what" part usually can't hide it for very long. Its the drive behind that gets him outed.

Frau Axelle, was denken Sie sich dabei mit Krokodile zu spielen? Lassen Sie es bitte bloß sein,
man kann sich ja auch etwas weniger gefärlich amüsieren! Machen Sie es gut!

[Mahsa Tezani]

Frau Axelle, was denken Sie sich dabei mit Krokodile zu spielen? Lassen Sie es bitte bloß sein,
man kann sich ja auch etwas weniger gefärlich amüsieren! Machen Sie es gut!

Schaub er frautaruten das weniger <==8 sich

Weniger <==8

[Jen-Jen]

But at an emotional level, I have to ask, "Why does my anatomy determine whether or not I'm worthy of being loved."

unfortunately because this is the real world! It all comes down to sex and what's between your legs. It sucks and is so sad!

I just don't understand the emphasis people place on their partner's physical body. Having a penis or a vagina to me is like the difference between having an innie or outie belly button. If the personality is right, why let something so minor get in the way of love?

because people are selfish and shallow.

[AbraCadabra]

Schaub er frautaruten das weniger <==8 sich

Weniger <==8

Woopsy, sounds like ELLE caused a Google translator crash by some very naughty translation request?

Aber bitte weniger als 8 Zoll! Aber ich möchte doch bitten!
Erst der Krokodilbiß und dann 8 Zoll... um Gottes Willen.
Zu viel des Guten für mich. Autsch!

This here girl would need doughnut spacers!
So even if HE would be after my "who" and not my "what" that be some challenge too.

Also it still be not that easy to figure, - BECAUSE he would know I'm a trans-woman with SRS ok, - yet that alone is a stack more exotic (to some) then any bio-female... um.

Axelle

[Mahsa Tezani]

I just lie.