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receding hairline. what's a good plan to approach this?

Started by Eve of chaos, November 24, 2011, 07:01:07 AM

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Annah

Quote from: ♥ Alyssa Case ♥ on November 25, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
Think as a girl and be as a girl. Your hair will grow as a girl.

Lol doesn't quite work that way.
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Elsa.G

Im sorry this is happening to you, i too have a semi high hairline but i havent really thought too much about it. The only thing i can tell u, as i have no experience with hair loss is that ur problem has a solution. Well that's a quote from my mom "everything has a solution, you just have to find what's right for you".
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Annah on November 24, 2011, 08:29:34 PM
@dazzler

Im fine. My doctor knows it was originally used for the prostate. My hair grew and my body is just fine. My doctor would not have prescribed this if it would have hurt me. Plus when you r on hrt u dont need to take it forever since i do not have the t to lose what i grew. I did my homework too.Finasteride was created to shrink the prostate as well. With any drug there are risks. Spiro is much nastier with risks but i still take it. Why? Because the benefits outweighs the risks.


Are you saying you are willing to gamble with your brain tissue into your old age since you are also blocking Type 1 enzymes as well as Type 2? Just because your doctor prescribed it doesnt mean it is FDA approved or safe for long-term use.  As well,  I know many doctors have prescribed Avodart as an off-label medication for many desperate balding men who are willing to try anything after having exhausted other avenues.

The fact is, we do not know what will happen to our brains after blocking both Type I and II enzymes for a long time. There were clinical trials conducted on use of dutasteride for hair loss but it never reached Phase III. The word is that the company figured it was not worth pouring millions of dollars into the trials, subjects, and research because finasteride was just so similar to dutasteride and it does its job, so the company dropped the trials.

Which is so unfortunate because we could have gleaned information about how blocking both Type I and II enzymes for a long time affect the brain from those trials.  :icon_anger:
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Ava C

Once someone has SRS, do they still need to worry about DHT?
living halfway between reality and fantasy at all times.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Ava C on November 26, 2011, 06:29:16 AM
Once someone has SRS, do they still need to worry about DHT?

No, testosterone levels will drop significantly after SRS to the point where the amount of DHT produced will be very insignificant enough to even play a role in hair loss. That is why eunuchs do not bald at all.
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Annah

Quote from: MsDazzler on November 26, 2011, 01:06:11 AM
Are you saying you are willing to gamble with your brain tissue into your old age since you are also blocking Type 1 enzymes as well as Type 2? Just because your doctor prescribed it doesnt mean it is FDA approved or safe for long-term use.  As well,  I know many doctors have prescribed Avodart as an off-label medication for many desperate balding men who are willing to try anything after having exhausted other avenues.

a. That has not been proven
b. Sweet and Low causes cancer in rats. I still use it.
c. HRT can kill you with a stroke. I still take it.
d. I can be killed being a transsexual. I'm still fulltime.

Point is, I really don't care nor do I worry about it. The benefits outweighs the risks for me.

If you don't want to take dutas then don't. But don't dictate medical ethics to me. You are in no position to tell me what is best for me. It really will not work.

I'm happy with my results.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Annah on November 27, 2011, 12:32:22 AM
a. That has not been proven
b. Sweet and Low causes cancer in rats. I still use it.
c. HRT can kill you with a stroke. I still take it.
d. I can be killed being a transsexual. I'm still fulltime.

Point is, I really don't care nor do I worry about it. The benefits outweighs the risks for me.

If you don't want to take dutas then don't. But don't dictate medical ethics to me. You are in no position to tell me what is best for me. It really will not work.

I'm happy with my results.

Hardly dictating medical ethics at all. I am just wondering. That s all.
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Annah

Well, that's funny; because in reply #8, 10, and 22 it sure doesn't sound "like you're wondering."
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Amazon D

I had a 55 yr old friend who transitioned. She was bald except for on the sides of her head. I told her how i got castrated / orchiectomy and how my hair came back and stopped thinning.. She did it too and got back 95% of her hair.. It wasn't thick but it was there. She did wear a wig many times but the surest way is to stop the T from testes..
I'm an Amazon womyn + very butch + respecting MWMF since 1999 unless invited. + I AM A HIPPIE

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MsDazzler

Quote from: Annah on November 27, 2011, 07:06:15 AM
Well, that's funny; because in reply #8, 10, and 22 it sure doesn't sound "like you're wondering."

Right - I was wondering out aloud because given all the information, you were, indeed, doing it. That is my style - I tend to ruminate, ponder, and question. Not telling you what you should do or not do. Cross my heart.  :)
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Jeneva on November 25, 2011, 03:26:31 PM
I had a phone consult with Dr. Z today and he said that the frontal hairline thickness is not a disqualifer for hairline lowering.  He actually said that he prefers that all transplant patients have lowering done FIRST so don't let a thin hairline keep you from at least talking to a FFS specialist about hairline lowering.

I MAY have a FFS appointment for 12/27/2011.  He has an opening then and I could pull that off, but I want to make sure it is in my price range before I commit.

Really? I consulted with several hair doctors in the bay area about hairline lowering - they said the opposite. Hmph! Maybe I should have been talking to FFS specialists instead - they seem to have a different opinion about hairline lowering?
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Jeneva

Quote from: MsDazzler on November 27, 2011, 01:15:55 PM
Really? I consulted with several hair doctors in the bay area about hairline lowering - they said the opposite. Hmph! Maybe I should have been talking to FFS specialists instead - they seem to have a different opinion about hairline lowering?

Because of your posts in this thread I specifically asked him about thinning and hairline lowering.  He seemed to think it would make a big difference.  He is one of the bigger FFS names, but it is possible that he was just selling an extra procedure, but he actually advised me against a few things so I'd tend to think not (I've only been on full strength E for 3-4 months [I did half doses for a year before that] and he said to wait on the BA).
Blessed Be!

Jeneva Caroline Samples
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Carolina1983

Quote from: ~~♥BebeLyss♥~~ on November 25, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
Think as a girl and be as a girl. Your hair will grow as a girl.

Hmm no it doesnt work that way ;). First of all the genetics play a role and also hormones, and you also have to take care of your hair (something that really makes the difference).
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Akashiya Moka

~As a general rule, flutamide is more effective than either spironolactone or cyproterone acetate, dutasteride is more effective than finasteride, and any (oral) anti-androgen when also used routinely with a topical estrogen, e.g., 17B-estradiol, will have a positive synergistic effect. Lastly, inositol, biotin, iron and zinc supplementation may be of some mild benefit for hair loss.

To achieve a perfect hairline, however... You may require a scalp advancement.

Quote from: Carolina1983 on December 21, 2011, 02:28:12 AM
Hmm no it doesnt work that way ;). First of all the genetics play a role and also hormones, and you also have to take care of your hair (something that really makes the difference).

Exactly. I really feel for the girls (and guys) that have this unfortunate problem.
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MsDazzler

Quote from: Akashiya Moka on December 21, 2011, 08:04:27 AM
~As a general rule, flutamide is more effective than either spironolactone or cyproterone acetate, dutasteride is more effective than finasteride, and any (oral) anti-androgen when also used routinely with a topical estrogen, e.g., 17B-estradiol, will have a positive synergistic effect. Lastly, inositol, biotin, iron and zinc supplementation may be of some mild benefit for hair loss.

To achieve a perfect hairline, however... You may require a scalp advancement.

Exactly. I really feel for the girls (and guys) that have this unfortunate problem.

A perfect hairline would look a little too artifical, IMHO.

I wonder how it is that some women have so lustrous, glorious, and thick locks without even taking any supplements.

I had been taking MSM and Hair, Skin, & Nails for almost two months now, and finally I am seeing an improvement in the quality of my hair - although, hormones have definitely helped it along
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