I have ->-bleeped-<-. Is 20 too late to pass *attractively*? (pics)

[Annah]

It's funny because people around here actually deny the identity of  ->-bleeped-<-cs because they're afraid of having too much in common with them! Isn't that ironic!  ->-bleeped-<-phobia! Haha 

Actually, trans people are afraid of negative stigma associated with ->-bleeped-<- and rightly so. To assume im ->-bleeped-<- because im trans is just wrong.

Go fulltime. Youll kno what im talking about

[pretty]

Actually, trans people are afraid of negative stigma associated with ->-bleeped-<- and rightly so. To assume im ->-bleeped-<- because im trans is just wrong.

Go fulltime. Youll kno what im talking about

I'm afraid of the negative stigma of being associated with 50 year-olds who built their family on lies and then ripped it apart but you don't see me telling them their identity doesn't exist 

(Not that I would want to be associated with  ->-bleeped-<-cs either lol, but I at least try not to be hypocritical).

[chimera]

Wow! Brokencode that is a beautiful picture! Sorry just had to comment on it...

Thanks, Here is a more recent without glasses. I still need a haircut. I'm thinking once I get a girl hair cut, things will look much better. lol.
There is another thread on here with many girl's before and after. I think its even called before and after. The last post wasn't that long, so it should be within the first 4 pages or so.

And regarding on how I perceive myself. Well I'm still trying to see her ( I do from time to time). The hardest part is to see the girl in the mirror, just because you have seen the guy for 20 years or so. That is one of the hardest parts. Everyone else will see a girl before you do.

[Jen-Jen]

Wow! Brokencode that is a beautiful picture! Sorry just had to comment on it...

+ 1 I totally agree, just Wow!

[Annah]

I'm afraid of the negative stigma of being associated with 50 year-olds who built their family on lies and then ripped it apart but you don't see me telling them their identity doesn't exist 

(Not that I would want to be associated with  ->-bleeped-<-cs either lol, but I at least try not to be hypocritical).

stereotyping a 50 year old who treated his family poorly is quite different than stereotyping a transsexual with sexual behavior of masturbating or having sex as he fantasizes about being a girl. A transsexual gets murdered a lot more for being transsexual versus a 50 year old being murdered because he is 50. You are comparing apples to hammers.

And you may want to reread my prior posts. I did say they exist but transsexuals get labeled with ->-bleeped-<- far too often by gender therapists who do not know what the hell they are doing because they haven't read a medical journal published after 1978.

Research  ->-bleeped-<- before trying to argue this over semantics.

[pretty]

stereotyping a 50 year old who treated his family poorly is quite different than stereotyping a transsexual with sexual behavior of masturbating or having sex as he fantasizes about being a girl. A transsexual gets murdered a lot more for being transsexual versus a 50 year old being murdered because he is 50. You are comparing apples to hammers.

And you may want to reread my prior posts. I did say they exist but transsexuals get labeled with ->-bleeped-<- far too often by gender therapists who do not know what the hell they are doing because they haven't read a medical journal published after 1978.

Research  ->-bleeped-<- before trying to argue this over semantics.

Umm, I was comparing transsexuals to transsexuals, lol. Don't ask me why 50 is a common age for that type of transition 

[Mahsa Tezani]

Umm, I was comparing transsexuals to transsexuals, lol. Don't ask me why 50 is a common age for that type of transition 

The kids are out of the house, you're on your second wife, and one is financially secure enough to follow their dream. I met a guy in the Castro who was part of ADAM2EVE transformations and told me how many of the late transitioners have the perfect "midlife crisis" to begin transition.

Which is why a lot of boomers have transitioned the last 20 years.

[missjanealice]

Charles Moser applies an analogue of Blanchard's  ->-bleeped-<- criteria for "non-homosexual transsexuals" to natal (anatomically from birth) women. 93% were classified as autogynephiles

That is really all I feel I need to say on the matter. I am soooo sick of the "your not really trans because of ______" and for the OP, I had similar feelings as you. I even lifted for a while, did muai thai, even thought about joining the military. In the end it was having a daughter that put the thoughts and feelings into suppress mode (not a good thing). I waited until I was 28 and now I'm 30 and my hormone levels are still that of a man to my point, get a good therapist, and seriously hash this out... the biggest thing that struck it home for me was one of my earliest memories back in 1st or 2nd grade, I always wanted to play with the girls but they would never let me so I spent a lot of time alone.

[cynthialee]

I also took T for 18 months. (right before I transitioned)

It was a desperate attempt to man up and make the GID go away. I ussed the fact I had low T to get the doctor to prescribe it for me.

I went off the deep end and bassically displayed all the classic symptoms of 'roid rage. Even though my T levels never went over 280 ng/dl I was going feral.

When I went on E and spiro I had a complete reversal of the rage.

[Just Kate]

If someone identifies as ->-bleeped-<- it means they identify with the description of the condition, real or not. It is easier to self-diagnose ->-bleeped-<- anyhow because it describes a specific set of behaviors, not just an internalized feeling of wrongness like dysphoria.

If the OP really believes they have ->-bleeped-<-, then full transition probably will not satisfy them.  Perhaps they should seek out some crossdressing groups - more likely to find acceptance there and others with similar experiences.

Perhaps ->-bleeped-<- is a terrible descriptor made by a corrupt individual, but if you don't believe the symptoms of ->-bleeped-<- exist among the trans population you're ignoring a large subset of the trans population.  I transitioned over 10 years ago and of all the transsexuals I met (as in, got to know more than a just "hello" level), transsexuals who were transitioning in full, only one DIDN'T fit the criteria for ->-bleeped-<-.  ONE!  And she became my best friend and partner in crime during transition because we had such a hard time relating to the others and because we were tired of being hit on... yeah... at the trans-support meetings.  I admit though, being a late teen, early 20, transitioning TS back then was much more of a rarity than today and probably drew the more sexually charged to us.

[Just Shelly]

If someone identifies as ->-bleeped-<- it means they identify with the description of the condition, real or not. It is easier to self-diagnose ->-bleeped-<- anyhow because it describes a specific set of behaviors, not just an internalized feeling of wrongness like dysphoria.

If the OP really believes they have ->-bleeped-<-, then full transition probably will not satisfy them.  Perhaps they should seek out some cross dressing groups - more likely to find acceptance there and others with similar experiences.

Perhaps ->-bleeped-<- is a terrible descriptor made by a corrupt individual, but if you don't believe the symptoms of ->-bleeped-<- exist among the trans population you're ignoring a large subset of the trans population.  I transitioned over 10 years ago and of all the transsexuals I met (as in, got to know more than a just "hello" level), transsexuals who were transitioning in full, only one DIDN'T fit the criteria for ->-bleeped-<-.  ONE!  And she became my best friend and partner in crime during transition because we had such a hard time relating to the others and because we were tired of being hit on... yeah... at the trans-support meetings.  I admit though, being a late teen, early 20, transitioning TS back then was much more of a rarity than today and probably drew the more sexually charged to us.

This is why I also have a hard time relating with many in the trans community. I also don't like the word Transsexual even though I fit that category and not the Transgendered one, I don't like people associating who or "what" (to some) I am with sex. What, do I want to have sex with transients or something?

Although I don't necessarily agree with your post, I would agree that ->-bleeped-<- if it did exist would maybe describe transvestites and some cd's better.

[BrokenCode]

Well I talked to my psychiatrist and he agreed that after 2 years of not being able to make these feelings go away, that it's a good idea to explore the other direction. He's sending me to a gender identity specialist in our city and we're going to see what she says. He says that we'll be able to determine to go on hormones and what not.

I'm glad to hear it went ok. I truly hope for the best for you. Sounds like your head must be so puzzled right now of who you are.  I can relate to that. 

Wow! Brokencode that is a beautiful picture! Sorry just had to comment on it...

+ 1 I totally agree, just Wow!

OMG!! Thanks


Awesome Hugs everyone!!

[Ultimus]

I'm glad to hear it went ok. I truly hope for the best for you. Sounds like your head must be so puzzled right now of who you are.  I can relate to that. 

I'm so puzzled. One moment, I'm like, "Yeah, I'm transgendered. It explains everything. This is the right thing to do." The next moment I revert to old defense mechanism thoughts like, "No, this is stupid! You are a heterosexual male and you shouldn't be having these ridiculous thoughts! You're going to be a freak if you go down that path! You can fight through this!"

Oh and I just saw your .gif in your signature and let's just say that if I could be the heterosexual male I've tried so hard to be and I saw you walking down the street, I would be all like, "whoa, who's that girl? I've got to talk to her!"

[Joelene9]

I'm so puzzled. One moment, I'm like, "Yeah, I'm transgendered. It explains everything. This is the right thing to do." The next moment I revert to old defense mechanism thoughts like, "No, this is stupid! You are a heterosexual male and you shouldn't be having these ridiculous thoughts! You're going to be a freak if you go down that path! You can fight through this!"

Describes me to a "T".  I had this all of my life, as with some others on this forum.  I'm glad you are seeing a gender specialist.  There was no such animal here in my city back in the 70's.  Get help while you are still young. 
  Joelene

[BrokenCode]

I'm so puzzled. One moment, I'm like, "Yeah, I'm transgendered. It explains everything. This is the right thing to do." The next moment I revert to old defense mechanism thoughts like, "No, this is stupid! You are a heterosexual male and you shouldn't be having these ridiculous thoughts! You're going to be a freak if you go down that path! You can fight through this!"

Oh and I just saw your .gif in your signature and let's just say that if I could be the heterosexual male I've tried so hard to be and I saw you walking down the street, I would be all like, "whoa, who's that girl? I've got to talk to her!"

I hear you. That almost sounded exactly like my words a few years ago. And what I realized now is living as a heterosexual male wasn't my option, it was too much pain to just stand idle by. I also didn't want to admit or live as a transgender than.  So I was stuck in this void almost of not knowing who I am. I knew I wanted to be a girl, but I wanted some other force like God to change me. Well I soon realized that If I was going to be a girl, I had to do it myself. I was really on the edge of my world and ready to jump off of it and opt myself out. I also knew that wasn't an option too. It took me 4 years to finally admit who I was and to start my path. I think 4 years was way too long. However, I feel much better now than I did before. Regardless of what path you take, if you choose to be a heterosexual male or going to transition, there both very difficult paths. However, for me the path to transition set me free and there are still bumps in the road, but I feel terrific and alive now.

So again I think you are on the right track in solving your life. The first step is to figure it out. It takes some time, but most of us discover ourselves and take the transition path.  Many girls on here are relating with you and that's good because it shows you that we were there and that this is an option for you, if you choose.

Many Giant Hugs

Edit: * 4 years at when I was at the void. I knew something was up when I was 6.

[0451]

Tell you the truth- you do have some feminine features, like your eyes.  And 20 is quite young to transition.  As for your muscles, I've seen a few bodybuilders who have transitioned, and lost their muscle (and some who haven't) and actually pass amazingly as women.  You'll prolly pass fine, if that's what worries you.

[Maya Zimmerman]

stereotyping a 50 year old who treated his family poorly is quite different than stereotyping a transsexual with sexual behavior of masturbating or having sex as he fantasizes about being a girl. A transsexual gets murdered a lot more for being transsexual versus a 50 year old being murdered because he is 50.

Damn.  And I thought it was bad when people said that God killed kittens because I was masturbating.  Now, I'm getting transsexuals murdered through direct sociological constructs?  Do I need to be completely free of sexual activity to stop the killing or is it not perverse if I perceive myself to be a woman in my day-to-day life and masturbate while thinking of being a man?  I guess if I have to choose between the two, I'd probably go with being free of sexual activity, but I'll probably just stick with causing a bunch of death.  This world may desire to take everything it can from me, but it can't take my fantasies.

[Annah]

or you can just stop masturbating to keep God's wraith at bay when it comes to the killing of Kittens

[cynthialee]

If we can reduce the pet population by simple masturbation it is obviously our duty is to wank like crazy untill the cows come home.

[Annah]

If we can reduce the pet population by simple masturbation it is obviously our duty is to wank like crazy untill the cows come home.

Bob Barker and every other civilized person would agree