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Transwomen have the same muscle attachments as men?

Started by Alyx., March 11, 2012, 01:37:05 PM

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Naturally Blonde



Sorry Vanna, I can't see much difference in the two pics apart from your hair is longer!
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Zarania

wow, thanks guys! i feel much better about being fat now :)

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Quote from: Naturally Blonde on March 12, 2012, 06:09:43 PM

Sorry Vanna, I can't see much difference in the two pics apart from your hair is longer!

jealousy sucks, eh?
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lilacwoman

keaira
that aint muscle its fat that is giving you the pot bellied ->-bleeped-<- look...start sucking that belly in and wear a tight belt to remind you to do so...walking is said to be one of best methods of reducing belly fat.
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Keaira

I'm on my feet for 8 hours a day. and I walk for most of that time. We'll see how the sit-ups do I'm putting that workout bar to use. ^_^
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Jamie D

Quote from: Keaira on March 14, 2012, 12:36:53 AM
I'm on my feet for 8 hours a day. and I walk for most of that time. We'll see how the sit-ups do I'm putting that workout bar to use. ^_^

Keaira

Do the yoga plank position to tighten the abdominal muscles

Dozens of videos and pictures of it.  It is easy and effective.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: lilacwoman on March 13, 2012, 12:46:46 PM
keaira
that aint muscle its fat that is giving you the pot bellied ->-bleeped-<- look...start sucking that belly in and wear a tight belt to remind you to do so...walking is said to be one of best methods of reducing belly fat.

Walking won't help with belly fat! you need to do sit ups!
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rachl

Quote from: Naturally Blonde on March 14, 2012, 08:21:05 AM
Walking won't help with belly fat! you need to do sit ups!

Sit-ups only work the muscles in the area: they don't target fat reduction. Cardio does that. Also, sit-ups work the muscles that make the belly stick out, unless you specifically target the transverses muscle and other 'core' muscles. Pilates >>> sit-ups. Things like the front and side plank, and the related exercises, are far better than any regimen of sit-ups.
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Skyanne

Quote from: Heartwood (Alex) on March 11, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Someone on 4chan told me this, and I thought I'd check with you guys to see if it's true

I really want to become fit, but I want to become "woman fit". However that guy seems to be implying that because I was born male, my muscles will always be in a male configuration, and if I bulked up I'd look like a dude.

True or not?

lol

No, this is not how it works.
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xXRebeccaXx

Quote from: Heartwood (Alex) on March 11, 2012, 01:37:05 PM
Someone on 4chan told me this, and I thought I'd check with you guys to see if it's true

I really want to become fit, but I want to become "woman fit". However that guy seems to be implying that because I was born male, my muscles will always be in a male configuration, and if I bulked up I'd look like a dude.

True or not?

Uh no. If you're ttaking estrogen then you'd be "woman fit"
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pebbles

Males and females have very similar tendons at least in regards to where they connect to. The only exception might be on the hips and that's due to the bones begin in a different place.

Bear in mind there are two different classes of muscle fiber... Have you seen runners at the Olympics.

Long distance runners look like this.
http://www.ethiosalon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Hailie.jpg

But sprinters look like this.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/313/078/114774414_crop_650x440.jpg?1313185656

It's due to different types of muscle development Slow twitch muscle fibres vs fast twitch.
Ironically this is also what determines whether something is a Red or white meat in animals.

Fast twitch tire easily but are associated with strength as the body can multiply up the fibres easily. Thus are also associated with bulk. slow twitch are associated with endurance working for hours on end.

Of course low testosterone aspect of HRT impacts the development of both to some extent but I'm pretty sure it impacts fast twitch fibres disproportionately seeing as Anabolic steroids = Testosterone.

So while there isn't such a thing as "woman fit" which is just stupid. There are different kinds of muscle development which look different as much as anything else.
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lilacwoman

researchers all say sitting puts fat on the belly and walking takes it off...but a tight belt reminds that the muscles have to be sucked in and worked anyway.
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K Style Addiction

I want a flatter stomach and have been thinking of doing leg lifts (i think that's what they are called, where you lie on your back and instead of lifting your body just lift your legs in a sit up fashion)...will that cause me muscles or gimme/keep a fem body?
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Shantel

Quote from: DonnaTroy on March 16, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
I want a flatter stomach and have been thinking of doing leg lifts (i think that's what they are called, where you lie on your back and instead of lifting your body just lift your legs in a sit up fashion)...will that cause me muscles or gimme/keep a fem body?

Absolutely! That's exactly the right one to flatten out the tummy below the belly button! Keep your lower back flat on the floor, straighten and raise your legs so that your heels are about a foot off the floor max. You can do a little butterfly kick if you wish. Hold it until it starts to burn and then relax. Do several sets a day gradually increasing the number and duration, your tummy will look great before long.
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Shantel

Quote from: Renee D on March 14, 2012, 10:46:14 AM
I advocate that most people with any weight issue stay the hell away from sodas.

Amen to that! There is a huge amount of  sodium even in diet sodas that is killing people with unwanted weight gain and high blood pressure.

Quote from: Renee D on March 14, 2012, 10:46:14 AM
And really, a small pooch bit of fat below the belly button is kind of normal if you aren't working on six pack abs or something.

I do a couple of sets of abdominal crunches at 60 per set each day, it has given me great looking abs and a lot of definition. Although I do sets of the other exercise for the lower abdomen, but it does seem as if the little girly pooch is hormonally driven and difficult to be rid of regardless.
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Shantel

Quote from: Renee D on March 16, 2012, 11:50:06 AM
I walk so much at work and then at home, I go up and down the stairs a lot during the day and night, also spend a bit of time playing with the dog in the yard, a bit of walking, running and bending.  I don't need to do any other exercise.

I'd say not Renee, you look very nice, quite pretty really!  ;)
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Stephanie_b

I was wondering about this too.  Back in 2003-2004, I was trying to fit in with the guys I hung out with.  I was 5'4" tall and started out at 140lbs back then.  I ended up at 176lbs and only cut back my body fat to 7%.  Needless to say, I looked buff.  But, these days its almost impossible to tell that I ever set foot in a gym-to bodybuild.  My method was a lot of cycling and later, jogging.  If your diet is right and you do the right exercises at the right intensity, over a period of time, you can loose a ton of muscle. 

I still need to lose muscle from my arms though, my biceps and triceps are still too defined and large for me to be comfortable.
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rachl

Quote from: Stephanie_b on March 17, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
I was wondering about this too.  Back in 2003-2004, I was trying to fit in with the guys I hung out with.  I was 5'4" tall and started out at 140lbs back then.  I ended up at 176lbs and only cut back my body fat to 7%.  Needless to say, I looked buff.  But, these days its almost impossible to tell that I ever set foot in a gym-to bodybuild.  My method was a lot of cycling and later, jogging.  If your diet is right and you do the right exercises at the right intensity, over a period of time, you can loose a ton of muscle. 

I still need to lose muscle from my arms though, my biceps and triceps are still too defined and large for me to be comfortable.

I'm in basically the same situation with the arms...it takes a LONG time in addition to diligence about not lifting heavy things.
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Siobhan

Quote from: Stephanie_b on March 17, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
I was wondering about this too.  Back in 2003-2004, I was trying to fit in with the guys I hung out with.  I was 5'4" tall and started out at 140lbs back then.  I ended up at 176lbs and only cut back my body fat to 7%.  Needless to say, I looked buff.  But, these days its almost impossible to tell that I ever set foot in a gym-to bodybuild.  My method was a lot of cycling and later, jogging.  If your diet is right and you do the right exercises at the right intensity, over a period of time, you can loose a ton of muscle. 

I still need to lose muscle from my arms though, my biceps and triceps are still too defined and large for me to be comfortable.
5ft 4 wish I was that short! I suppose 5'8 aint that bad though. I still got some bicep but lost everything else now.
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Stephanie_b

Quote from: rachl on March 17, 2012, 11:57:10 AM
I'm in basically the same situation with the arms...it takes a LONG time in addition to diligence about not lifting heavy things.

In that case, I may become quite lazy...sounds like fun! 
Yeah, its important to not lift heavy stuff...my arms have shrunk a lot but not enough yet.

Perhaps people will just percieve me as a tough gal?

Lol
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rachl

Quote from: Stephanie_b on March 17, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
In that case, I may become quite lazy...sounds like fun! 
Yeah, its important to not lift heavy stuff...my arms have shrunk a lot but not enough yet.

Perhaps people will just percieve me as a tough gal?

Lol

Haha. I'm not advocating being lazy! Just "in need of help for lifting heavy things." I still work my butt off at the gym, but it's exclusively cardio.
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