Quote from: Darrin on March 17, 2012, 02:44:53 PM
I've tried and tried with STP's. The issue isn't so much the STP, but the fact I can't get a good harness to work with it. ... Do any of you guys sit to pee in a stall? Has this ever been an issue for anyone? Thanks!
I can't use a STP thing, at least not conveniently, because my urethra is in a weird position, similar to
Hypospadias of a cissexual man's penis (not
exactly like that, obviously, but it technically opens up from just inside the vaginal canal). I tried a few different DIY STP things, and frankly, it wasn't worth it to me. I use the gents' lavvies with alarming frequency (since after surgery) and no-one bothers me about it. No-one listens outside the stall and corners me about why my feet were pointed out and my pants came down and then tinkle-tinkle-pee was clearly audible.
Why?
The gents' lavvy is purely utilitarian. Guys go in, do their business, (hopefully) wash their hands, and leave. And plenty of cis men who lack a hypospadiac urethra also sit down to pee on occasion, for all sorts of reasons. In the gents' its assumed to be no-one else's business why anybody sits to pee, though I suspect in my case (with impeccable hair and glittery nail varnish) it's assmued (
if it's assumed) that I sit because I'm not only gay but effete and dainty --which doesn't bother me.
If you act like you belong in the gents' lavvy, no-one will bother you. At first, I just down-pitched my voice at both times I was asked, and stated "I assure you, I belong here", which was responded with "Oh, sorry, my bad".
One thing I'll never understand, though, is the guys who will start in a stall, audibly take a dump, wipe, flush, and THEN get up to use the urinal --or the other way around. If I only saw this every few months or so, I'd figure it was a case of "oops, now I suddenly have to do the other" --but it's like every other time I use a public gents' lavvy, and there are other people in there, there's always *at least* one man who has to go out of his way to make sure he pees standing and poos sitting, and never sit for both, no matter how much more convenient it might be. Is the ability to pee standing up really so complex that failing to do it
even once will cause some men to completely forget how to do it?
Quote from: smooth on March 18, 2012, 03:06:45 AM
Unless you get to the toilet shortly after it's been cleaned you might find sitting difficult. Mens toilets are quite often nasty, dirty places where guys P without lifting the seat or even looking and aiming. If you go into a cubicle and there's no mess on the seat you've struck lucky. Why different rules seem to apply in public toilets I can't imagine... Be careful about letting the backs of your trousers hit the deck as well because outside of the seat the floor seems to be another target for these dirty feckers.
What men's rooms have you been using? Maybe it's just the places I go to, but considering I go to a lot of punk bars and dives, stereotyping says the public restrooms I encounter should be the worst of the worst, but they're really not --most are cleaner than my own bathroom (but that's cos I've got a cat box in there, and a nineteen-year-old cat who's losing control of his bowels). In all honestly, the "filthiest" men's room I've ever been in has been at Mac's Bar here in Lansing, and even that was
considerably cleaner than the ladies' lavvy at The Elbow Room in Ypsilanti, Michigan.
Quote from: Andy8715 on March 18, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
I'd have to say that is a risk for anyone at any point and anyone can rape, not just men who were AMAB. Are some at higher risk than others? I'm sure they are. Do I live my life in fear of something that could happen to anyone? No.
Ditto.