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Started by cryan91, May 28, 2012, 09:33:04 PM

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cryan91

Hey guys-
I've asked this of the girls and the stories they're sharing are brilliant, inspiriting, etc. I will put what I asked of them below. I've already done the video piece (which was debuted in a gallery exhibition this past march and can be seen here http://cargocollective.com/charlotteryan/revisiting-dysphoria ) and am now thinking I'd like to do a series of etchings incorporating the words and experiences shared here once I return back to school. I'd love to have some from you all as well-an equal balance of male and female perspectives would be wonderful! You'd be helping me out immensely and I'll most certainly share the finished product with you!!

"Hi everyone,
So as most of you know I'm an undergrad art & design student. I'm looking to do some performance video work. Usually I work behind the camera but I want to turn it on myself for a video class. I want to explore my own experience but I find it a bit difficult to come up with ideas. I want to work with experiences we face from birth to our mid-20s. The period of self-exploration that everyone must go through but narrowing it down to severe issues in relation to sexuality and gender identity. What we transfolk have dealt with. If youre feeling helpful I'd love it if you could give me 20 or so words describing yourself or how you felt/feel during this age and describe in detail what was most challenging for you (outside of the most obvious trans-related issues, yet still very much associated with the fact that you're trans.
THANKS!"

Thanks in advance :)
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Jam

When I was 13 I came home and wondered why I couldn't stop thinking of my new best friend who was a girl. The word Lesbian popped into my head and I had a mini heart attack but it didnt feel right, it didnt fit. So I sat there wondering how I could like a girl but be so sure I was straight, then trans popped into my head and I can honestly say I have never felt so sick in all my life.  Despite my best efforts I could never grasp girl things, I just could not get myself to wear makeup or give a damn about my hair. I did not understand womens clothes or fashion, so I was bullied. I felt like a freak and a failure, I had so much self hatred that I never stood up to my bullies because I believed I deserved it. I also was in love with my straight best friend for three years at the same time. I felt weak and humiliated by my small body and the girl things that came with it.  I was hurt everytime my best friend mentioned a guy she liked because I knew I had nothing on him. As well as this my parents had just divorced and my mum particularly was really unhappy. I felt so bad because I knew one day I'd have to tell her and I didnt want to hurt her.  I had a lot of self hatred, a lot of anger. I could not look in mirrors most of the time without punching my own face. I did not care for myself and in the end the only reason I did not commit suicide was because the one thing I could do right was not hurt my family in that way. I reckon what hurt the most though and made me spiral deeper into my self hatred was simply because there was no one I could talk to about any of it. I was alone.

I dont know if thats what you were wanting but that whole time was the worst period for me.  Couldnt really sum that up in 20 words haha  :D
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Jam

Quote from: Casey on May 30, 2012, 08:16:06 PM
Tom, are you me??

Seriously, that's almost exactly what happened to me. When I was 13 I had my first major crush, it was on a teacher, and I remember being upset about it. I kept thinking "I'm not gay, I'm not gay, I'm not gay." Whether that was denial or something telling me my gender was off, I'm not really sure...and I had a lot of trouble fitting into the girl stereotype as well. I managed to get through by pretending to be kind of a conservative "sporty" type girl or whatever. I also was in love with my female best friend, a straight girl, for all of high school - so three years...it was awful, and she kept dating these guys. It was awful because I felt like I should be an option too. She also had an FTM friend who she put down and called "she" all the time, she basically said that it was just a big mistake for him to transition and that he would never be a real guy. I don't know, this person actually did detransition, but the reasons were never made clear.

And at the time, our family was in really bad shape because my grandfather has a brain tumour for several years, and then passed away, which pretty much devastated the core family. That's part of why I never came out, because I didn't want to bring any pain to the family. And I hated how I looked, how I acted, everything, because it was all fake. I can't imagine ever feeling that much pain again.

The similarities are sort of eerie. And *hugs*

Sorry if that wasn't helpful cryan91.

Cheers  :)

They are really similar....its weird, you go through all that thinking your alone and it turns out someone else was going through nearly exactly the same thing.
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Kreuzfidel

My earliest conscious memories - being in kindergarten, knowing I was a boy, but then seeing another boy's penis and thinking "what is wrong with me, where is MINE?".  Then from that day forward, living every day knowing that I was in the wrong body - hell on earth.  In some ways, I envy the guys who didn't realise until later in life that they were trans - I lost my youth because I spent my ENTIRE childhood trapped in a state of terror because I knew I was male, but had a deformed body that told the world I was not.
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Benethlib

I don't remember thinking, as a prepubescent child, that I was or should have been a boy. Sure— I fought my mother over dresses and—until I outright refused to wear them—insisted on pants or shorts underneath (and cowboy boots!); but most little girls do, I imagine. I always thought that I should have had a twin brother called Luke and once or twice tried to make my family recognize him; but so many kids have imaginary friends. I took enormous joy, once, when an older woman told my mother that her son (me) "looked just like one of those little Hanson boys;" but I don't think, looking back, that I would have told you that I was anything but a girl. I knew what made a boy and what made a girl; but for a long time, it didn't dawn on me to care.

When puberty hit, though, I absolutely hit a wall. You can see it it in photographs of me: from eight to about 11, I'm a grinning little flower child running around in costumes and building forts and bunkers and inhabiting imaginary worlds; after that, I'm a sullen-looking, unkempt creature trying to hide (a.) in too big clothes and (b.) from the camera in the first place. I disassociated from my body. I wanted so little to do with it that I wouldn't even pull my own hair (which was long) up into a ponytail until I was about 14; doing so would have, I felt, cemented the fact that I had a body to take care of.

When I was 11 or 12, we got a computer with Internet access, and I almost immediately became a boy online. I reasoned with myself that if my parents ever found out, I'd tell them that it was a matter of simple safety: online predators were more likely to go after young girls than after young boys, right? I didn't believe my excuse in the slightest, but I kept repeating it to myself, because I knew that what I was doing would be considered wrong and kind of sick otherwise.

In exchange for a dying IRL social life, which suffered when I realized that I would never fit in with my male friends and that I was a walking lie when I tried to fit in with my female friends, I had a very active online life as a boy until I was about sixteen (at which point, one of my friends did find out, sending me spiraling into guilt and self-hate). Increasingly, though, I began experiencing moments of complete, paralyzing terror when I remembered that the day was approaching when I would have to give that up. They'd come out of nowhere and literally strike me down. It felt like my body was being crushed. It was like having a heart attack.

So I gave it up. Tearfully confessed to the people I'd betrayed online. Promised myself that I'd become a better person. Gave into my mom's increasingly active attempts to get me into girls' clothing. Finished up high school wanting nothing more than to be someone else. Was depressed and withdrawn all through college. Finally saw a counselor in the second semester of my senior year and am now, newly 23, still trying to figure out who or what I am and what to do about it.

Long-winded. But I felt like I had to get that out. Hope that helps your project a bit, Cryan.
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A.T

Everything was fine until I started getting boobs.

That can actually pretty much sum it up in one go  :) .

Before I started puberty I can't really remember thinking anything more about my gender apart from sometimes not feeling completely comftable in my body, but of corse then I had no idea what it was and I just thought I was a little strange, I am a little strange but thats besides the point.  But when I started to develop I just remember thinking that the parts that were growing shouldn't of been there. Through my teens and even till today I have an eating disorder because of trying to change my figure.

The main thing that was continual though out my life was that there was always something not quite right but I couldn't put my finger on it. I remember Idid always look at my family and feel like I should be one of the boys, I didn't know why I was always with the women and the girls it just felt a little bit odd like I was in the wrong place. But apart from that I didn't realise what until I was in my late teens and with the help of internet access and meeting people who get the same way I finally realised why I felt like that. My mum did though, when I did finally come out to her she said "I always knew there was something." Then she proceeded to demand that I allow her to choose my male name as she's still my mother and it's her job. I'm now Xander.

So all in all, confusion everywhere because of boobs and other lady bits.
I'm batman.
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Natkat

I dont know how to decribe my growing up experience..
I tried to writte it down but it always turn up WAY to long so I end up delete it all.

what kinds of parts of my growing up do you exact want to know about?
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Keaira

I would describe my experiences as being mostly hell. My Dad was in the Army. So we moved every 3 years. Which means a new set of bullies to pick on me every time we moved. I was always perceived as a gay male. I'd be teased, insulted and even beat up. And my parents began to question my sexuality too by the time I was a teenager. But I was a girl. My Mum told me once that I threw the biggest fit over not being able to wear a dress when I was 5 years old. Then there was the time I told her I wished my name was Penny, like the girl from Disney's The Rescuers And I remember the time I was playing with the girl next door and my Dad popped over to tell me dinner was ready when I was about 7. I was wearing a white pleated skirt that belonged to her. My Dad teased me about it without mercy. I didn't want to be He-Man, I wanted to be She-Ra. She still got to have a cool sword and look pretty kicking evil's butt.
It affected me later on when I had to play one of the Ladies Dancing in a school production of the 12 Days Of Christmas. I was terrified. I didn't want to be teased by my Dad again. But, it wasn't until I was 19 that I came out to anyone. My Mum was waiting for me to get home from work And she finally asked me about my crossdressing. She even told me that she knew I had been dressing as a girl since I was 11.

What's funny is, in Elementary school I didn't wear entirely a boys uniform. Their uniform was a black or navy blue sweater, black  or grey pants, white or blue shirt. The girls wore the same color combination but they could wear a cardigan and skirts too. I wore a blue cardigan with a teddy bear on the breast. I had a Rainbow Brite Lunchbox. And sometimes I would wear tights. But throughout my early childhood all my friends were girls and one or two boys.

I had only dated twice in my life. The first, Was a girl who was head over heels in love with me. Even today, she still is. She and I dated in high school but it was... awkward to say the least.  A couple of years ago, she tracked me down via Facebook. And while she didn't find the boy she loved, she did find the woman who was hidden behind him. She told me that now it all makes sense. I wasn't as reciprocation to her advances because I was in utter turmoil inside trying to come to grips with myself. The 2nd girl became my wife and I came out to her long before we got married.

To this day, I don't remember much more of my childhood. Bits and pieces come to me every now and then and I write them down. But sometimes I feel blessed to not remember much.
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King Malachite

My thoughts will be a little bit sporadic and jump between time periods.

I hated my experience growing up.  I was teased slightly more than other people because of my weight.  I was always the lone kid.  I hated when teachers told us to choose our partners because no one would wanted to be my partner.  I felt like a rejected outcast.  I tried to cover the hurt up by acting "cool" but it still hurt to feel alone. 

I had developed my first crush on a female in first grade.  From there on I knew I liked females but coming from a Christian family that did not fly over well.  I remember my sisters laying hands on me and praying against the homosexuality.  I thought that I was going to be cured but the feelings still grew.    I was butch.  I felt that being butch was the closest thing to being male so I tried to just run with it.  I secretly thought that I had to be butch because I was so ugly and fat that no boy would want me.  Even at the times when I was dressed up looking pretty like a female I still felt odd.  I tried to be girly and a butch at the same time.  I attempted to try and be girly enough to fit in with the "ghetto" girls at my school but even they saw through me as I was called a "wannabe hoochie mama".

I started to realize I was in the wrong body when I saw my brother's penis.  He would "enjoy" himself when he was in his room or in a hotel if he thought I was sleep.  Then I saw him pee with it and I wondered why could he do all of those cool things with it and I can't.  In third grade I had to go in this health class and the teacher took boys in one room and girls in the other.  To hear that I would develop breasts and hips and get a period traumatzed me.  It didn't help when the teacher was explaining how to take care of our genitals.  I wanted to take care of them the way a male did NOT like a female.

It really stated to hit me in 7th grade when boys would talk about their penises and it dawned on me that they "enjoy" themselves too and I can't.  It was devestating.  I hated my vagina.  I started to shut down and just hate life.  I experienced torment all the time.  Even in 5th grade I remember laying on my bed on the phone with my sister telling her that I wish I was a boy which I didn't even know that was possible at the time.  I told her that I hated my period and asked her why did I have to be born a girl.  Then I told her that I am going to get surgery where they make me into a boy and she told me no she is going to pray against me doing that.  I was mad at her for doing that because I thought that if she really prayed for that then I wouldn't be able to so I would be miserable for the rest of my life.  Heck sometimes I still feel she's going to pray to God that he sabatoge my chance for surgery or have it to where I will die in surgery or have complications as punishment.  I feel that if I was a biological male then my life would have been so better.



Therapy 101 much? lol  I'll probably add more later on.


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insideontheoutside

All in all I had a very happy childhood. My parents knew I was different. And although my mom had her moments where she'd dress me up, that was really before the age of 2. Between age 2 and age 11 was pretty golden. I didn't really worry about anything, I was just myself. My parents basically allowed me to live as a boy for most of the time in that I had short hair and predominately male clothing. They let me play with whatever toys I wanted and do any extra curricular activities or sports I wanted. There was a stint in the girl scouts (that was my mom's idea) which was horrifying to me but at least it didn't last long.

Even though I was happy, I still knew I wasn't like other boys. From a super early age (I'd say like 3) I was putting things down my pants to compensate for not having balls. I vaguely remember my parents having this long sit down discussion with me about that ... about how I just was the way I was and it wasn't going to change, but that it was ok.

Before puberty really hit I remember having to go to the doctor a lot more often. That started causing a lot of embarrassment for me.
When I was about 12 the doctor started giving me these shots. At the time I was not told exactly what they were, and silly me was thinking that my parents and doctor knew best. I never was able to get a hold of my actual records to see what exactly it was but it was some form of estrogen. I learned years later that my mom was pressured by the doctor to give me those shots to "ensure I grew up to be female". Boggles my mind how f-ing stupid that doctor was. All I can say was that screwed me up so badly that was the first time I can recall actually wanting to die. I feel like I was ok with myself before that but when that jump started things and I was filled with a hormone that my body naturally wasn't producing huge amounts of it damaged me. My mom finally put a stop to it, but there was no going back ... from there on out is when I started to hate my body and fixate on how it wasn't right or normal. I never even knew about "trans" stuff or even intersex. I guess you could say I was pretty sheltered (or that in the 80's that stuff just wasn't as prolific as it is now). Middle school and high school was pretty hellish. Crazy emotions, crazy physical stuff I was powerless to do anything about. Of course that pretty much describes puberty even for "normal" people. Either way, it was a time in my life I'd just as soon forget about entirely but it set me up for a decade or so of serious issues, alcohol abuse, lot's of "fun" stuff! I'm just thankful that I lived through it all and finally got to a place where I can put the past behind me and just be myself again.
"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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wheat thins are delicious

insideontheoutside: was that your doctor from birth?


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Jamie D

Quote from: Keaira on May 31, 2012, 12:07:06 PM
I would describe my experiences as being mostly hell....

Cryan wrote: Hey guys- I've asked this of the girls and the stories they're sharing are brilliant, inspiriting, etc.

Keaira, are you lost?
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insideontheoutside

"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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wheat thins are delicious


This part of your story stands out to me.

Quote from: insideontheoutside on May 31, 2012, 10:38:23 PM
When I was about 12 the doctor started giving me these shots. At the time I was not told exactly what they were, and silly me was thinking that my parents and doctor knew best. I never was able to get a hold of my actual records to see what exactly it was but it was some form of estrogen. I learned years later that my mom was pressured by the doctor to give me those shots to "ensure I grew up to be female"

Is it possible that you were suspected by the doctor to have an intersex condition?  That seems to me a likely reason he would suggest and pressure these shots on your mother.


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Keaira

Quote from: Jamie D on May 31, 2012, 10:21:51 PM
Cryan wrote: Hey guys- I've asked this of the girls and the stories they're sharing are brilliant, inspiriting, etc.

Keaira, are you lost?

My childhood was full of bullying. simple as that. I even had a breakdown when I was 13. While I had some happy moments, more often than not, it was hell. I suffered in silence for the most part. I was short for a boy. Really short. Easy prey. It's a wonder I wasn't a substance abuser or considered suicide. That came later in life. I even reached a point where I refused to do any classwork at all. And I got sent to a psychologist who evaluated me. But I can't remember it or anything. I might have come out as trans by then, I don't know.I'm sorry that it wasn't all shiny. The fact that I don't remember much of it is kind of a blessing.
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Keaira

Like I said once before. I like it here with the boys. I don't get bombarded by pictures of how pretty some of the other members look, which makes me feel bad and somewhat jealous and you guys don't get catty. I'm no girly girl. I'm just me. And I don't belong in any one place. So I guess in a way, I am lost. Yet, I'm not. ^_^
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Jam

Quote from: Keaira on June 01, 2012, 04:55:36 AM
Like I said once before. I like it here with the boys. I don't get bombarded by pictures of how pretty some of the other members look, which makes me feel bad and somewhat jealous and you guys don't get catty. I'm no girly girl. I'm just me. And I don't belong in any one place. So I guess in a way, I am lost. Yet, I'm not. ^_^

That's pretty cool Keaira =]
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Keaira

LOL! Thanks Tom. I wish I was a girly girl but I'm not. I'm at home around tanks more than I am at a beauty spa. the women that I look up to can mostly be found in anime and movies, like Motoko Kusanagi from Ghost In The Shell,  Deuna Newt from Appleseed or Lara Croft. I'm pretty sure it's because of my family background, being the Daughter of a soldier and spending my childhood around other soldiers and their children. In fact, I've been in a uniform of one kind or another almost my entire life. It's just who I am.
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insideontheoutside

Quote from: Andy8715 on May 31, 2012, 11:10:45 PM
This part of your story stands out to me.

Is it possible that you were suspected by the doctor to have an intersex condition?  That seems to me a likely reason he would suggest and pressure these shots on your mother.

That's what I've thought (years later). There's all kinds of weird stuff I came up on once I really started trying to look for answers - like how an ultrasound was done while my mom was pregnant with me and it was determined I was a boy. A couple years ago my aunt (my mom's sister) randomly sent me a "we're having a boy" announcement card my mom had sent her way back then. Said absolutely nothing else about it, just sent the card. Wild.
"Let's conspire to ignite all the souls that would die just to feel alive."
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Jamie D

Quote from: Keaira on June 01, 2012, 01:00:25 AM
My childhood was full of bullying. simple as that. I even had a breakdown when I was 13. While I had some happy moments, more often than not, it was hell. I suffered in silence for the most part. I was short for a boy. Really short. Easy prey. It's a wonder I wasn't a substance abuser or considered suicide. That came later in life. I even reached a point where I refused to do any classwork at all. And I got sent to a psychologist who evaluated me. But I can't remember it or anything. I might have come out as trans by then, I don't know.I'm sorry that it wasn't all shiny. The fact that I don't remember much of it is kind of a blessing.

It's okay!  I was just surprised you missed cryan's "companion" thread on the MtF board.
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