Cheapest way to go about transitioning

[wheat thins are delicious]

Just sell them and when he asks where they are say you loaned them out.  Why is he so against selling things?  Sounds like he wants to keep you under his thumb by letting you have no money.

[jasper3]

I just asked him, he said no eBay. If I want to sell games I can do it at GameStop and only get about $5-6 for each game that USED would cost $20+

[wheat thins are delicious]

I would just save them till I turned 18 and then do it.  He has no say when you are of the age of majority.

[jasper3]

I could probably give them to my friend  and have her sell them and tell my dad I'm selling the games to my friends or people they know if he asks about the money.

[smittyFTM]

Jasper3

I'm going to have to call you out. Earlier in this post I suggested you use socks to make a cheap (free) bulge. You said you didn't own socks and that you didn't know how to go about doing this.

Here's what you wrote in the topic entitled "Feminine" (which you started):


Re: Feminine
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 03:41:17 pm »

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Even when passing I'm mistaken for a girl
I've once wrapped two or three ace bandages (meant for ankles and wrists; I had many on hand, I got in fights so often, if something wasn't broken, it was sprained lol) and I'd use a sock to pack
But I have such long eyelashes and big blue eyes, everyone would call me miss
I'd feel so embarrassed and I'd giggle and whimper at the same time kinda


....and I'd use a sock to pack....

Seriously, I realise this is just about socks but, well, is it? Why lie? What's your deal?

[DeadBoy]

Selling stuff you don't need anymore is always a good way to make money. Also you could do some small works for people, like walking their dog, taking care of their gardens etc.
I have Aspergers too, and ADD along with a history of money problems and involuntarily unemployment, so over the years I've had to get creative in order to make a living. A good thing to do as an aspie is to find that one thing you're really good at and try to make money out of it. Art is my special interest, and selling paintings as helped me financially.
I know it's hard to be positive as a trans* aspie teenager, but just hang in there, it does get better.

[Traivs]

You just have to decide where your priorities lie sorry but its true. I was kicked out of my parents when I was 14 and ended up couch hopping and living with roommates doing odd jobs and under the table work I know its a different situation but I had to wait till recently to really move towards my goals at all. I decided my priorities at that point were to feed myself enough to stay alive and pay for necessities like my school stuff laundry ect... Even now i know surgery and stuff is going to be freaking far far down the road for me because I need to keep a roof over my sons head and give him everything he needs. I will admit to selling a lot of stuff to get enough extra money for a new binder and not really eating sometimes when I am trying to save up money for stuff  though i always make sure my son has plenty, but its figuring out what you care the most about. 

[jasper3]

Jasper3

I'm going to have to call you out. Earlier in this post I suggested you use socks to make a cheap (free) bulge. You said you didn't own socks and that you didn't know how to go about doing this.

Here's what you wrote in the topic entitled "Feminine" (which you started):


Re: Feminine
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2012, 03:41:17 pm »

    Quote

Even when passing I'm mistaken for a girl
I've once wrapped two or three ace bandages (meant for ankles and wrists; I had many on hand, I got in fights so often, if something wasn't broken, it was sprained lol) and I'd use a sock to pack
But I have such long eyelashes and big blue eyes, everyone would call me miss
I'd feel so embarrassed and I'd giggle and whimper at the same time kinda


....and I'd use a sock to pack....

Seriously, I realise this is just about socks but, well, is it? Why lie? What's your deal?

When I tried passing it was years ago, maybe early middle school. Now, I hardly wear socks or shoes for that matter. I only wear socks when the nurse at school gives them to me because I'm always being suspended for no socks. But I don't really own any, and by that I mean there are none in my rooms.

[lilacwoman]

it actually needs some backbone to transition so maybe you need to work on that first?

[Kreuzfidel]

Jasper, I don't mean to be rude, but you obviously know how to use a computer - Google is your friend.  You don't know how to use measuring tape?  Google is your friend.  Don't know how to make a packer?  Google is your friend. 

And why does it specifically have to be socks?  Anything small, soft and cloth-like can be wadded up to make a "bulge".  I have to wonder - why did you even ask the original question if you "can't", "won't" or "shouldn't" do everything necessary at this point in your life to make changes happen?

I have to agree with the others - you do not (in my opinion) sound ready at all to commit to transitioning.  You seem like a decent young guy, but you do sound like you have a lot of growing to do and I don't mean physical.

[smittyFTM]

Jasper, about the socks: I suggested you use socks as a cheap packer. You replied with this:

"I don't own socks, if that isn't strange. how do I do that technique?"




Then in your post "Feminine" you wrote:
"I've once wrapped two or three ace bandages (meant for ankles and wrists; I had many on hand, I got in fights so often, if something wasn't broken, it was sprained lol) and I'd use a sock to pack"

Clearly you know "how to do that technique".

My issue with you  is not whether  you own socks. I couldn't care less whether you have socks.
My issue with you  is that you seem to lie.

[KamTheMan]

LIFT WEIGHTS! Start out slow to be safe, but then do your sets with heavy weights to bulk up. Or if you don't have access just do pushups/pullups and stuff. Lift heavy things (safely) around the house constantly. If you can't afford anything might as well get jacked. Muscles are stereotypically manly so go online as find out all the exercises that will slim down your hips and broaden your shoulder and lats. Also eat a ton of protein.

[Kreuzfidel]

Jasper, about the socks: I suggested you use socks as a cheap packer. You replied with this:

"I don't own socks, if that isn't strange. how do I do that technique?"




Then in your post "Feminine" you wrote:
"I've once wrapped two or three ace bandages (meant for ankles and wrists; I had many on hand, I got in fights so often, if something wasn't broken, it was sprained lol) and I'd use a sock to pack"

Clearly you know "how to do that technique".

My issue with you  is not whether  you own socks. I couldn't care less whether you have socks.
My issue with you  is that you seem to lie.

I just noticed that, too.  There's nothing worse than people spending time and energy trying to help someone when it seems like an OP is jerking everyone around for some bizarre reason.  If the OP is serious, he'll use Google and take the advice he was given - otherwise, I smell a troll.

[Traivs]

I agree he's making it very difficult but i think a lot of you are being a little harsh. not going to name names or insert quotes.  I don't know if all of you remember being at a point where you know what you want but are afraid so you make up excuses. It doesn't even have to be about transitioning but i know i have sure as hell made things hard for myself in the past just cause I was nervous or weird about something or just felt i was jumping in too fast. I flat out lied to all of my friends in high school saying i didn't like women even though they all knew it was a lie they let me figure it out myself.

[Kreuzfidel]

Traivs, I agree - but at the same time, it's not fair to people who spend their time explaining things patiently only to have everything they've said tossed aside, retorted against or otherwise ignored.  I am all for people new to transitioning learning things for themselves - but it's unnecessary and unfair to lie about silly little things and to not be willing to take responsibility for your own life.  We are most assuredly here to help, but patience has a limit and I would much rather spend my time trying to help someone own their mistakes than pander to them.

[Traivs]

Sometimes all you can do is show people where to look and leave it up to them to take the next step or not and just know you did what you could. Its up to them. I try to not let people get under my skin about this kinda stuff because any lies they may or may not have said is only hurting themselves.

[smittyFTM]

Hey Travis, I totally understand what you're saying. Sure I could have (maybe should have?) noticed the socks discrepancy & ignored it. I certainly didn't go out hunting Jasper's posts looking for one. However, I and others have tried to guide him & give advice from experience to no avail. It truly is frustrating.

I have to agree with replies given by Kreuzfidel as well. We're family here, ya know, and are only trying to help. Lying & bamboozling are unnecessary and will only make folks unwilling to help our young friend.

I have no problem holding folks accountable for their words & actions, nor anyone holding me accountable to mine.

With that, I'm going to drop my interest in this thread; I won't be spending anymore time on it--it's a waste of my energies at this point.

Cheers

[GhostTown11]

Hey Travis, I totally understand what you're saying. Sure I could have (maybe should have?) noticed the socks discrepancy & ignored it. I certainly didn't go out hunting Jasper's posts looking for one. However, I and others have tried to guide him & give advice from experience to no avail. It truly is frustrating.

I have to agree with replies given by Kreuzfidel as well. We're family here, ya know, and are only trying to help. Lying & bamboozling are unnecessary and will only make folks unwilling to help our young friend.

I have no problem holding folks accountable for their words & actions, nor anyone holding me accountable to mine.

With that, I'm going to drop my interest in this thread; I won't be spending anymore time on it--it's a waste of my energies at this point.

Cheers

You should have followed your post with a fabulous z snap,

At least that's what I did when I read your post! 

[GhostTown11]

it actually needs some backbone to transition so maybe you need to work on that first?

It actually takes work to come off as nasty you have. So much for supportive 

^^

[Zerro]

It actually takes work to come off as nasty you have. So much for supportive 

^^

Actually, lilacwoman has a point. If you can't stand for yourself, you shouldn't be rushing into transition. I'm not saying you can't ask for help or support(it's good to ask for such things when you need them), but if you can't do something as simple as sell, donate, or throw out an ITEM without relying on your parents' permission 24/7, you definitely have other issues to work on first.

Honestly, the OP's showing some really big red flags here. They're putting off the suggestions people offer, and have apparently been dishonest about a few things. It might not be nice to be called out, but sometimes people need a smack to the face to stop them from rushing into big, life-altering processes.