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Stopping T and no more periods

Started by Dominick_81, July 16, 2012, 10:19:29 PM

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Dominick_81

I read somewhere on this board that after being on T for an x amount of time and then stopping T that if you've been on T for x amount of years that your period won't come back... is this true? And if so, is it still recommend to get a hysto? And how long do you have to be on T for your period not to come back once you stopped T?
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Dominick_81

If I ever decide to stop T for whatever reason I'm hoping my period doesn't ever return so I don't have to get a hysto. Right now, the thing keeping me on T is not having a period. I've been on T for almost a year and a half and I haven't had much change and it's extremely frustrating. I was hoping if I did stop T my period wouldn't return and I could keep my hair on my head. I'm so afraid of going bald. And losing my hair upsets me more b/c of being on T this long and getting no changes. So to me it seems pointless/foolish to be on T just to lose your hair and get no changes on T.
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King Malachite

I'm not a doctor but I'm thinking it's different for everyone.  It was to my understanding that if one stops T then the female hormones won't have a competitor to deal with anymore so you may just get your period back after all those years once the E starts kicking in unless you probably have taken damage to your ovaries ehough though I'm not too sure on that part.  Also Taco is right.  If you get a total hysterectomy then you won't have anything to produce sex hormones.  Lack of sex hormones be T or E could cause you to have Osteoporosis.

I don't really believe that your period will stop forever if you decide to stop T after x amount of years of being on it.  If it did then I'd actually be concerned.  Then again I could be wrong.
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Lee

There are medications to help with hair loss if that is your only concern for staying on T.  If you would prefer to be off it I have heard of people stopping menstruation with birth control like depo provera.  Neither is a great option, but they're possibilities.

Edit: I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's possible to get a hysto and keep the ovaries, making it so you wouldn't need additional hormones.
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Arch

Dominick, have you tried the hair loss meds yet? I have had great success with it. You can get prostate-strength finasteride for very little money and cut the pills into quarters. I stopped for a couple of months to experiment with saw palmetto (did nothing for me), I and started losing lots of hair again. Now I'm back on finasteride, and it's great.
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nocar

Hey! Just a comment on one thing: I'm friends with a woman who is post menopausal & had had breast cancer so she can't take Estrogen. So for the past few years she has had no hormones coursing through her body. Her doctor has her taking Calcium supplements & her bone density tests have been fine. So you can combat the no-hormone issues with help from your doc and/or eating calcium, or so I've seen in my experience anyway...
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Natkat

well in some caises it would be posible but I dont think its the most normal thing..

we must remember that in first place its pretty diffrent from person to person,
there are people who had little to almost no period before T and some who had alot,
there are people who stopped there bleeding immedently after taking T and some where it would take a long time.

t can sterilize your for the time you take it, but it can also sterelize you after taking it even when you stop in the way of having no period, thats also diffrent from person to person like for cisgenders its diffrent.

I know one transguy who even without T had problems getting pregnant, and even with a low dose of T he very fast was able to be all sterilized and with no period, and then there are people who been on T and stopped and got pregnant with no problems.
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I wont say its the "safe spot" to belive that "of corse it will stop after taking t for ___ years" and I somehow belive if your already before T had heave, period or that it took along time for it to stop then it might not be so likely to stop.




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aleon515

Quote from: nocar on July 17, 2012, 08:20:04 AM
Hey! Just a comment on one thing: I'm friends with a woman who is post menopausal & had had breast cancer so she can't take Estrogen. So for the past few years she has had no hormones coursing through her body. Her doctor has her taking Calcium supplements & her bone density tests have been fine. So you can combat the no-hormone issues with help from your doc and/or eating calcium, or so I've seen in my experience anyway...

This is true. It is just not true that you are destined to osteoporis. I think the recommended dose of Calcium is something like 1000-1500 grams of CA a day. They come in 500 or 600 gm tablet size. The other thing that helps a LOT is weight bearing exercise like weight lifting.  I believe the osteoporis is genetic. The other thing is that men get this, though not as commonly.

There are also treatments for this now, though I don't think the medications are esp. pleasant (side effects are gastric reflux I believe).


I'm not sure though if it would matter whether you are 20 versus over 40, when your body is sort of made to decrease in hormones. Another thing I would imagine is that E will come back if you stop T, unless you are maybe over 40. Taking T might suppress it for awhile. I am not sure we know what's going on exactly, which might be something that should give someone pause.



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Julian

I would imagine that if you have a lack of sex hormones in your system at a young age, you'd have a higher risk of osteoporosis because you'll be spending more years of your life without hormones than a post-menopausal woman would. Does that make sense? If it takes, say, twenty years for osteoporosis to develop, you'd get it at a younger age. I'm speculating, though.

Dominick, if you don't mind having estrogen in your body, you could have a hysterectomy without oophorectomy; that is, the uterus would be removed, but the ovaries left in place. That way you wouldn't have a period, but you'd also be free of the risks that come from not having any sex hormones.

However, I remember you posting about not wanting to have a mammogram done. My top surgeon recommends that I have mammograms done when I reach the appropriate age, even though I've had top surgery. This is probably because I still have an estrogen-based system and a female level of risk for breast cancer. This could be a reason for you to stay on T.

Also, if the T has had any benefit to your mental state or anything like that, it would probably be a good idea to stay on it, and just take finasteride or something similar to avoid losing hair.
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Dominick_81

Thanks all for the responses.

Quote from: Arch on July 17, 2012, 01:06:38 AM
Dominick, have you tried the hair loss meds yet? I have had great success with it. You can get prostate-strength finasteride for very little money and cut the pills into quarters. I stopped for a couple of months to experiment with saw palmetto (did nothing for me), I and started losing lots of hair again. Now I'm back on finasteride, and it's great.

No, I haven't tried any hair loss meds yet. I asked my doctor about taking finasteride like a year ago and she told me it would be pointless to take finasteride and T b/c it would block DHT.

Quote from: Julian on July 17, 2012, 01:07:28 PM
Dominick, if you don't mind having estrogen in your body, you could have a hysterectomy without oophorectomy; that is, the uterus would be removed, but the ovaries left in place. That way you wouldn't have a period, but you'd also be free of the risks that come from not having any sex hormones.

Also, if the T has had any benefit to your mental state or anything like that, it would probably be a good idea to stay on it, and just take finasteride or something similar to avoid losing hair.

The thing about getting a hysto is I won't go to a gyno to get checked out and I know before you get a hysto you have to go to a gyno and that is something I won't do. I know it's recommend to get a hysto within 5-10 years on T and when 10 years comes around I'm not sure what to do b/c I refuse to go to a gyno and I'm not sure if I should stop T b/c I'm not getting a hysto...? But if there was a way around not going to a gyno and getting a hysto I'd have a full hysto.

As I told Arch, my endo doctor told me it was pointless to take finasteride and T b/c it would block DHT.


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wheat thins are delicious

You may eventually have to go to a gyno, even if you stop T.  What if you started having abnormal feelings, and severe pain in that area?  Would you just let it linger?  Die a painful death, because it could be cancer. 



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Dominick_81

@Andy8715: If it ever comes to that, (which I hope not) I'm not sure what to do. I certainly don't want to die a painful death, but I don't want anyone looking at me down there and sticking some tool inside me. They can give me the tool I'll do it myself. To me, it's humiliating for someone to look at my part down there, I don't want anyone looking down there.


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wheat thins are delicious

There's no way they would let you do that since you are not a doctor, and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to give yourself a gyno exam.  It's humiliating for everyone to have a gynecological exam, but sometimes they are necessary. 


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Dominick_81

Can they put you to sleep for this exam? I was just reading what is done during this exam and there's no way I will have that done unless I'm put to sleep and I don't feel a thing.
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: Dominick_81 on July 17, 2012, 10:22:40 PM
Can they put you to sleep for this exam? I was just reading what is done during this exam and there's no way I will have that done unless I'm put to sleep and I don't feel a thing.

I don't think they can put you to sleep but I do believe they will either give you a sedative like valium or you can get some from your gp to relax you.


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Dominick_81

If I have to die, I have to die. I just don't want it to be painful and I don't want it to be counted as a suicide or else I might not get into heaven. I just can't have this done unless they put me to sleep and I don't feel a thing.
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wheat thins are delicious

Have you ever had an exam like this?  Have you had some kind of traumatic experience regarding that area?  I ask because it seems like you are utterly terrified of something that is unpleasant for a few moments and then over.  I had to have it done at 14 along with having a catheter placed.  It was a few moments of discomfort, embarrassment, etc and then over.


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Dominick_81

Nope, never had any kind of exam like that before and never had any traumatic experience regarding that area...(that I can remember...?) I just can't get pass the humiliation and embarrassment of it. Nobody should have to look at your private part or touch you down there.

Wow, at 14, that's young to have to get an exam like that. My friend had her exam around that age, too, like 14 or 15. Ya shouldn't have to go so young. I thought you could wait until your sexually active...?


Catheter, I've heard about that, they put that in when you have surgery, right? I'm worried about that when I get top surgery. If they put that catheter in when I'm asleep and then take it back out after surgery while I'm still asleep it won't be as bad b/c I won't know. But I hope they don't do that for surgery unless you tell them it's okay.
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wheat thins are delicious

Yes.  I had an ovarian cyst that had killed the ovary and I had to have it removed.

They don't put in a catheter for top surgery.  They had to put one in for me not for my surgery but because they needed to quickly fill my bladder (couldn't wait for me to drink a lot) because they needed to do an ultrasound (this was before they found out about the cyst and were checking to see if i had appendicitis.)

Yes it's humiliating and embarrassing but you will get over those feelings.  Think about some of the most embarrassing things that have ever happened to you.  You eventually stopped thinking about them and got on with your life, right?  I hope nothing ever happens where you would need one but if you ever do you should just grit your teeth and get it done because it could be what saves your life.


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