just to pop my head in for a rare post.......
The UK surgeons.
they're not too shabby. the sheer number of people i know who've gone to Phil Thomas and got around 6" depth excellent cosmetics, orgasmic function and a reasonable recovery speaks volumes, he's a bit expencive if you go private ('bout £10k).
Him and James bellringer both trained under Michael Royle so have similar techniques, everyone i've spoken to who went to bellringer says hes the best and everyone who's gone to thomas says he's the best.
The main differences are that thomas takes longer to do the deed as bellringer does it like a mad dash (2 1/2 hours an op) and thomas tends to make the labia majora more baggy and puffy than bellringer, also thomas prefers to have you lie flat on your back for 5 days following the op whereas bellringer likes to get you on your feet and on a solid food diet ASAP, from what I've heard from people personally bellringer's approach to recovery is better albeit a little scarier.
Tim terry. gods does he have bad rep and honestly I'm starting to think it's undeserved. there are two pics on anne lawrence both of which are a bit gross looking one's all melty and the other just looks weird, however I know people who've gone to him and were satisfied, he seems like a terribly nice guy who'll try his best even though he's not the best he's still allright.
I'm not quite sure about what terry does but both bellringer and thomas do either two procedures typically depending on whether you were circumcised or not, a peno scrotal flap technique if you were penile inversion if you were not. obviously it's not always that way, some well endowed people who were circumcised get inversion and some people with non circumcised micropenis's get peno-scrotal flap work done.
http://www.transgenderzone.com/library/srs/1.htmThat's a good set of photo's showing how peno scrotal flap work is done, inversion is pretty similar just the bottom flap is not used and the penils skin is just sewn up on it's own and inverted, there are a few other differences also but i've never seen intra op pics.
What this all means for you is that if you're getting peno-scrotal work done you need to clear the scrotal area of hair and around the base of the penis, and if you're just getting inversion you usually just need the base cleared.
http://www.transgenderzone.com/library/ae/fulltext/27.htmThat's a good page on bellringer.
The biggest trouble with phil thomas is that he's so damn secretive, there are 4 pictures of his work on the internet, one of which is early work and looks a bit weird, one is when he was doing a two stage and the second stage was not performed so looks a bit, um, basic. and the other two on anne lawrence are fairly typical though not that great examples. He doesnt have a website bar soem vauge details on a private practice page and I can't for the life of me get hold of an email adress to contact him at, I also hear he's not very good with people skills and makes promises like not sending pictures of examples of his work when he promises to
From what I've seen in real life and via pictures sent privately his work is better than what's reflected from what you'd research on the internet and from word of mouth he's definitely the best in the UK and is a world class surgeon, if he was in america or thailand he'd definitely be a prime choice.
A little something about the thai surgeons:
The never do the vagina entrence in a manner that looks vaugely natural, like, ever. it tends to look like a big gaping hole under the vulva when it should sit at the bottom of the vulva and be enclosed by the labia, that's a big cosmetic concern for me.
Personally as you can probably guess I'm going to thomas, partly because of my competence in him but mostly due to the fact that it's free on the NHS, I just have to wait 6 months more to get my letters apply for PCT funding and sit on the waiting list.... so probably about a year.
