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Started by Shawn Sunshine, November 04, 2012, 01:36:18 PM

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Incarnadine

Quote from: Stephe on November 14, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
So you believe you are worshiping the "right God" being kind and loving others. But these other people who are being kind and lovng others are worshiping -some other God- and so their good deeds don't count with your God? I guess I have a real problem with the whole "chosen people" thing and at least the God I believe in, the one teaching us to love each other equally would not pick a "chosen people" over some other people. That doesn't seem real loving of these other people does it? It feeds into the whole "God is on our side of this war" mentality.

Again, you're welcome to believe what you want to, but just because an individual has "a real problem" with God choosing people who worship Him the way He wants them to doesn't negate the fact of that choice.  "God is a Spirit; and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth."  The God of the Bible evidently requires more than just love and kindness.

It would seem that you and I have different definitions of love - again, we're all free to believe what we want to believe.  If love is defined by letting people do and believe whatever they want to, then the god that is worshipped by that type of love is not the Yahweh of the Bible.  If love is defined by providing a way for a rebellious individual to be restored to His God through the blood of His Son, then that God is the Yahweh of the Bible, as proved by verses such as John 3:16.  "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."  Choosing to save one who accepts Jesus as the Messiah, the Christ, the One True God, the Savior of the world doesn't mean that Yahweh does not love those who reject Jesus; it means that the one who rejects Jesus "is condemned already, because He hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Anyone can call their god by whatever name(s) they want to call him/her/it/them.  It's good for us in this fluidity-focused generation to keep some definites and poles established, and to keep clear definitions of these deities we claim to worship. 
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tekla

The one who says it is not possible should not interrupted the one doing it.
-- Chinese proverb



Buttercup: We'll never survive.
Westley: Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has.
-- Princess Bride



Shades, Pamda and the other seekers...


Arthur C. Clark wrote a fantastic story (pretty much on everyone's short list as to one of the best SciFi short stories of all time) called "The Nine Billion Names of God" in 1953.  I was (had it there and deleted it) going to quote the last line of the story, as it's one of my absolute favorite sentences in all literature (but no big deal, I don't read much), but since it's a spoiler, and since I'm reasonably sure you'll at least check it out, I won't.  So, without having ruined it, you should go out and read it.   Awe hell, it's the computer age, you can stay home and read it.  Here:
http://downlode.org/Etext/nine_billion_names_of_god.html



Don't almost all rivers lead to the sea?  Most of them, the vast majority of them that we know about do.  Yes, there a few that don't.  That end up in very bad places.  Dead places, like the Dead Sea or the wasteland, like driving through Utah.  BUT.  MOST RIVERS lead to the sea.  So too with religious thought. 

The end product of the vast preponderance of 95% of the world's collection of religious thought ends up in about the same damn place so far as we all are really concerned.  IF YOU WANT TO BE GOOD, THEN DON"T BE BAD TO OTHER PEOPLE.  That's it.  That's the entire summation of the message from spiritual works ranging from the Actual Words of God to Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, it's: be excellent to each other.  & in being excellent to each other you bring about an excellent world to be in. 

That's god's great gift - the peace, happiness, contentment, serenity, nirvana, bliss, whatever you want to call it - is based on being in a state that's totally controlled by our own behavior.  The more excellent we all are to each other, the more excellent it is to Be there, the more everyone acts like dicks, the more you're living in Dicktown all the time.  It's all just a matter of how we treat each other. 

It's possible to do this in just about every damn area of life, home, work, free time, whatever...  It's possible to build your life entirely that way.  There are very happy homes(with a multitude of ways to structure and define them), joyous workplaces (and it has nothing to do with the job itself), and many generally excellent places to be.  The reason is always the same, it's all about how they treat each other.

In the end, religions - almost all of them - say very little about your relationship with god, but lots about how your supposed to work and live with other people, but the lots that they say is always the same thing.

I mean really, what does it matter to God - the creator, lord & master of the universe what your behavior to him/her/them is?  How could it possibly affect him, (except in the very odd context of Judeo/Christianity where somehow we hurt his feelings because of this talking snake - and I LOVE the talking snake - and Eve, and some fruit?)?  To me, that's pretty much the ultimate hubris of the human race to think our behavior pleases or offends God the creator, lord & master of the universe.  Really.

Does it really matter to G*d (the Jewish people think that God is so vast it's not even a matter of which name we call him/her/them by because puny humans could not even imagine the name of something so magnificent.  Always thought that was pretty damn poetic of them) what name you call him by?  The point of the Clark story, and the Buddhast teaching it's predicated on, is that anything that is everything - which is God, in all things and of all things - is all the names.  Billions of them.  And given that there is a big dogpile of Names O God, and there is no need to be throwing down every damn chance people get about who got god labeled right.  What's it to G*D?  Nothing. 

Besides, it's not that G*d wanted it, oh no.  Hey, I told you not to eat that junk, didn't I!? BUT NO... You had to eat it (because of this talking snake - and I LOVE the talking snake - and Eve) So what did we get for this?  Did she eat from the other tree, the really bitchin' one (the tree of everlasting life)? No.  She ate the knowledge of good and evil - and along with that the ability to choose between them knowing all the time what's right and wrong.

So we all know that the Golden Rule, this one overarching principal of all religions is true, that it works, that's it fair to everyone equally, and when we choose to apply it we're right, and hence life is right - the Buddhists call it 'right living' - and when we choose not to, when we choose evil/choose to do wrong, we create our own evil, and hence, our own hell.

And rather than condemn anything interfaith because it might lead people astray from the one true G*d, we should all be trying to create a hyperfaith, one that sees the totality of most of this stuff (The Satanic Bible and Book of Revelations not withstanding) as one whole, one truth, one way, one love.  (that's what Bob Marley was trying to teach).  And that love is created by us to each other.  To condemn other religious principals and beliefs when they have been believed and applied (with varying levels of success and failures) by so many people, throughout a lot of time is wrong.  I've been in and around other cultures based on differing religions then the one I was brought up in - both here and abroad - and they are no better or worse, no more right and wrong - or evil for naming G*d in a different way.  Japan is based on Shinto and all in all its a very wonderful place filled with wonderful people, awesome neighbors in real life, nothing is better than living next door to a Japanese Buddhist family.  Unless its Mormons.  I sure think that some of it is pretty far out there (and yes, I've read the Book of Mormon, first time was tripping balls in Salt Lake City - a bummer in itself - sitting in a real cheap motel and it was the only other thing in the room) but the Mormon's themselves are real nice people.  I'll tell you spending the Christmas season in a predominantly Jewish setting is a different kind of holidays - hope you like going out for Chinese food and catching a movie.  But it is what it is, and its no better or worse.  Doesn't make them any different when it comes to the Golden Rule, which is why, if you ever find yourself in that position, a Jewish Christmas can be just as wonderful as the Christian holiday.  And when I was in Saudi Arabia one Christmas Day - and you can bet Christmas is NO BIG DEAL in Saudi Arabia - it was good too.  We went out and drove real, real, real, you really can't imagine what it's like to dive there, perfect freeways (among other things what the company I worked for was building) and no such thing as a speed limit, or cops with these real sweet Mercedes, and that was OK too.

It's not that one religion is correct, in the end, they all are.

Kat

/ who thinks that everyone should read and study all the great thought that the human race has created.  Everyone should read the Bible, but also the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Zen stuff, Native American teachings and stories, all the myths, legends and epics and especially don't miss The Tao Te Ching, one of the best ever.  They are all of our stories.
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SarahM777

The real question is whom or what are you trusting?
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
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peky

Quote from: SarahM777 on November 14, 2012, 02:27:43 PM
The real question is whom or what are you trusting?

either a book(s) or the words mutter in your mind by G-d
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Stephe

Quote from: Incarnadine on November 14, 2012, 11:15:53 AM
Again, you're welcome to believe what you want to, but just because an individual has "a real problem" with God choosing people who worship Him the way He wants them to doesn't negate the fact of that choice.  "God is a Spirit; and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth."  The God of the Bible evidently requires more than just love and kindness.


The Old testament God you mean.

I'd just as soon just tear the old testament out of the Bible. It has so many contradictions and things in it they are the 180 deg opposite of the teachings of Christ, it's more of an example of how not to worship the God I believe in. every time someone starts bashing other people or proclaiming how God wants them to wage war on other people, it's something from the old testament.

My faith is based on: If the old testament was right, why did God need to send Christ here? Why did he bring a new covenant to all people, not just "the chosen"?

YMMV of course :)
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Stephe

Quote from: SarahM777 on November 14, 2012, 10:54:25 AM
He equates believing in Him as the same as as believing the Father. Again not my words but His.

Because he IS Gods love so they ARE the same thing. It's why he said "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me."

I think many Christians get too focused on Christ as a -being- and not as Gods love brought here in human form as an example of how to live. Most of this seems to focus around their own "salvation", being saved, their ticket to heaven or whatever you want to call it. The important message is how we should live our lives here and the rest will take care of itself. This same message is shared by multiple religions and is how I can get something from all of them. I know I don't have a "main stream" Christian faith but it works for me and my church and my pastor doesn't seem to have any problem with it.
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SarahM777

Quote from: Stephe on November 14, 2012, 05:58:59 PM
Because he IS Gods love so they ARE the same thing. It's why he said "The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me."

I think many Christians get too focused on Christ as a -being- and not as Gods love brought here in human form as an example of how to live. Most of this seems to focus around their own "salvation", being saved, their ticket to heaven or whatever you want to call it. The important message is how we should live our lives here and the rest will take care of itself. This same message is shared by multiple religions and is how I can get something from all of them. I know I don't have a "main stream" Christian faith but it works for me and my church and my pastor doesn't seem to have any problem with it.

I may be mistaken but didn't Jesus also say this

"Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10 For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost.

and this

Jesus called them together and said, "You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. 43 Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, 44 and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. 45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many."

and this

"I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father's name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[c]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30 I and the Father are one."

and this

5 Which is easier: to say, 'Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, 'Get up and walk'? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins." So he said to the paralyzed man, "Get up, take your mat and go home." 7 Then the man got up and went home.

Jesus was and is far more than just an example of showing us how to live.


Ransom Biblical definition

"1. Usage by Christ:

The supremely important instance is the utterance of the Lord Jesus Christ as reported by Matthew and Mark (Matthew 20:28; Mark 10:45), and in looking at it we shall be able, by way of illustration, to glance at the Old Testament passages. The context refers to the dispute among the disciples concerning position in the Kingdom, with their misconception of the true nature of Christ's Kingdom. Christ makes use of the occasion to set forth the great law of service as determining the place of honor in that Kingdom, and illustrates and enforces it by showing that its greatest exemplification is to be found in His own mission:

"For the Son of man also came not to be ministered unto, but to minister" (Mark 10:45). His ministry, however, was to pass into the great act of sacrifice, of which all other acts of self-sacrifice on the part of His people would be but a faint reflection--"and to give his life (soul) a ransom for many" (same place). He thus gives a very clear intimation of the purpose and meaning of His death; the clearest of all the intimations reported by the synoptists. The word He uses bears a well-established meaning, and is accurately rendered by our word "ransom," a price paid to secure the freedom of a slave or to set free from liabilities and charges, and generally the deliverance from calamity by paying the forfeit. The familiar verb luo, "to loose," "to set free," is the root, then lutron, that which secures the freedom, the payment or forfeit; thence come the cognate verb lutroo, "to set free upon payment of a ransom," "to redeem"; lutrosis, "the actual setting free," "the redemption," and lutrotes, "the redeemer." The favorite New Testament word for "redemption" is the compound form, apolutrosis."

thanks to biblestudytools


16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned,

It is why Jesus came into the world,to save those that were lost.
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

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Constance


Stephe

Quote from: SarahM777 on November 14, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
I may be mistaken but didn't Jesus also say this

Given these books were written decades after his death and have been translated, I'm not sure if word for word that is exactly what He said or not. I try to see the forest and not study each tree.

Quote from: SarahM777 on November 14, 2012, 07:34:11 PM
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned,

It is why Jesus came into the world,to save those that were lost.

So he sent him to save "the chosen" that the old testament God clearly favors or? I also notice all your quotes are about ones own salvation, which was my point. I don't think that was Christ main message "Here is how you save your own ass". YMMV of course.
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tekla

I don't think that was Christ main message "Here is how you save your own ass"

Sure he did, and what did he say?  "Love one another as I have loved you."  And further, he said it's exactly how you can follow him, and how others will know you're of God.  Not by how you call him, not by how you worship him, but..   By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.  By 'this', this is loving one another.  By all men, he meant everyone throughout all humanity will know you're 'of god' simply by how you treat other people.  And when you're 'of God' your life is pretty good.

Look, no need to be preachin' to me, really I'm immune.  Had 12 years of Franciscan-based education and 4 years of Precious Blood and Jesuit teaching directed at me.  My grade school years were filled with little but religion (and reading, Catholics love to read), I spent my first hour to 90 minutes of school ever day by starting with Mass, after which we'd march back for religion class, and my high school years were intensely religious both emotionally and intellectually.  Poo-poo tradition all you want, but it has it's own set of well studied and well rehearsed powers, and some of those people had the benefits hundreds of years of practice doing this with tens of thousands, if not millions of people to practice on, and they are very, very good at it.  Then I took lots of science ending up spending 5 years at a National Energy Laboratory where you can learn some pretty far out stuff.    And it's too late, alas and alack, I've read all of the world's great religious/spiritual writings, most of it multiple times, some of it on a consistent basis through decades of my life now.  Really, I'm when I say I'm immune from it, I mean it.  I'm way past reading the Bible as literature and watching TV preachers for their entertainment value (and I do, and I can go on about them at length, to me they are just one more kind of act in show biz).  Or are you really trying to convince yourself?

And I'm glad God winks (Like Sara Palin?  That girl could wink!) at cannibalism because that means he's probably going to let me slide on all that sex stuff.  I mean I only banged those girls I didn't eat them.  Well I did, sort of...oh never mind.  But if god's letting off cannibals them I'm in clear.  Whew!
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SarahM777

Quote from: Stephe on November 14, 2012, 05:46:22 PM

My faith is based on: If the old testament was right, why did God need to send Christ here? Why did he bring a new covenant to all people, not just "the chosen"?


This is the answer

Hebrews 9

9 Now the first covenant had regulations for worship and also an earthly sanctuary. 2 A tabernacle was set up. In its first room were the lampstand and the table with its consecrated bread; this was called the Holy Place. 3 Behind the second curtain was a room called the Most Holy Place, 4 which had the golden altar of incense and the gold-covered ark of the covenant. This ark contained the gold jar of manna, Aaron's staff that had budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant. 5 Above the ark were the cherubim of the Glory, overshadowing the atonement cover. But we cannot discuss these things in detail now.

6 When everything had been arranged like this, the priests entered regularly into the outer room to carry on their ministry. 7 But only the high priest entered the inner room, and that only once a year, and never without blood, which he offered for himself and for the sins the people had committed in ignorance. 8 The Holy Spirit was showing by this that the way into the Most Holy Place had not yet been disclosed as long as the first tabernacle was still functioning. 9 This is an illustration for the present time, indicating that the gifts and sacrifices being offered were not able to clear the conscience of the worshiper. 10 They are only a matter of food and drink and various ceremonial washings—external regulations applying until the time of the new order.

The Blood of Christ

11 But when Christ came as high priest of the good things that are now already here,[a] he went through the greater and more perfect tabernacle that is not made with human hands, that is to say, is not a part of this creation. 12 He did not enter by means of the blood of goats and calves; but he entered the Most Holy Place once for all by his own blood, thus obtaining eternal redemption. 13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who are ceremonially unclean sanctify them so that they are outwardly clean. 14 How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death,[c] so that we may serve the living God!

15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

16 In the case of a will,[d] it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, 17 because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. 18 This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. 19 When Moses had proclaimed every command of the law to all the people, he took the blood of calves, together with water, scarlet wool and branches of hyssop, and sprinkled the scroll and all the people. 20 He said, "This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep."[e] 21 In the same way, he sprinkled with the blood both the tabernacle and everything used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

And who are those?

Psalm 86

Bring joy to your servant, Lord,
    for I put my trust in you.
5 You, Lord, are forgiving and good,
    abounding in love to all who call to you
.
6 Hear my prayer, Lord;
    listen to my cry for mercy.

Psalm 145

The Lord is righteous in all his ways
    and faithful in all he does.
18 The Lord is near to all who call on him,
    to all who call on him in truth.
19 He fulfills the desires of those who fear him;
    he hears their cry and saves them.


John 3

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 11

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Acts 2

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

1 John 4

And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.


1 John 5

Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

It comes down to four main key parts,it's to know Him,love Him,trust Him, and obey Him. It's not rocket science and it is so simple Jesus even says "Let the little children come unto me"
Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
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SarahM777

To put it in another way

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Answers are easy. It's asking the right questions which is hard.

Be positive in the fact that there is always one person in a worse situation then you.

The Fourth Doctor
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tekla

Hey, if you want to read and study the great works of spirituality go ahead and do it.  Apperently it's not OK with some, but Dr. Kat tells you its fine, so you can blame me if anyone asks (tell 'em a college professor and professional stagehand assigned them to you, that ought to confuse them long enough for you to make your get-a-way).   The Bible, the Koran, the Bhagavad Gita, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Zen stuff, Native American teachings and stories, all the Greco/Roman & Egyptian myths, legends and epics (be sure to read The Epic of Gilgamesh at this point too) and especially The Tao Te Ching are part of our common heritage, all offer unique insights about our relationship with each other and the world.  Most people, even most religious persons, do not find them dangerous, evil, or a path to sin.

Matter of fact, most priest and ministers are going to read them as part of their training, I'd find it hard to believe that the vast majority of mainstream seminaries don't teach a required course or two on Comparative Religions, I was getting that my sophomore year in HS, so I'm sure it come in up the line too.  If your minister could handle it, I'm sure you could too.

The all have several things in common, all of which would recommended them:
- the are for the most part the oldest extant writing we have that's not record keeping (that is the oldest writing we have, records).  That they have survived just about the longest test-of-time we know of, that generation after generation has read them, well that's a good thing to be in touch with.
- they are all written in a mytho-poetic style and a few of them (Tao, Bible, Koran Bhagavad Gita) are pretty much ultimate examples of poetic writing and near perfect poetry.  The Bible and the Koran might as well be volumes in the same work, as they both use the same imagery in the same ways (the are both desert based so that makes sense) and have a very similar structure and style.
- together they comprise one of the 4 corners of learning (along with Literature, Science and History) that pretty much all educated people know (or at least did, and not that long ago).
- people from all over the world, from many different points in our history, and in all sorts of different cultures have found strength, solace, joy, wisdom, meaning (and a lot more stuff) in all of those works,  they have a power (through time and across cultures) to them that few other human made things possess.
- They are damn good.  Have I said that yet?  They read very, very well.  Some parts of them just sing.  They are packed with meaning (obvious, obscure, and occult) in just about every line, and the story-lines and characters are very compelling and convincing.  There are parts of these books I've been reading for 40-50 years now, it's never gets old, it's always fresh.


And - like I said, they all end up saying the same basic thing - because there is a commonality to them they can give you things that strengthen your own beliefs without bringing you over to the Dark Side or anything like that.
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Constance

Is the purpose of this thread for those of us who are inter-faith to answer how we practice? Or, is the purpose for those who are not inter-faith to explain why we are "wrong"?

Sarah Louise

Here is the original question by Shawn Sunshine:

I am not sure I understand how a few folks have come to have interfaith and religious stances. How does one follow something other than Christianity in addition to being Christian and not then be following another God. How could you come to terms with including more than one religion in your mind and heart?
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Incarnadine

Quote from: Constance on November 16, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
Is the purpose of this thread for those of us who are inter-faith to answer how we practice? Or, is the purpose for those who are not inter-faith to explain why we are "wrong"?

I think folks on both sides of those questions can't help but share from their hearts what is so dear to them.  I'm glad for an open, honest conversation that includes both people telling me I'm wrong and why they think I'm wrong.  It forces me to ask myself the tough questions.

My perception of this thread, judging by what Shawn has posted in response to her questions, is that she was looking for answers from people whose beliefs were closer to her own how to understand the possibility or impossibility of combining Christianity with other faiths and not become heretical to the Bible.  What has naturally developed are people who feel strongly about what they believe defending their positions.  Naturally, this defense of what one believes to be the truth creates a boundary of truth and error.

I think that this discussion is continuing to answer that question, with people coming to the defense of an inter-faith perspective. 

Conflict is good!  It creates dialogue!  Dialogue creates change!
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SarahM777

Quote from: Constance on November 16, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
Is the purpose of this thread for those of us who are inter-faith to answer how we practice? Or, is the purpose for those who are not inter-faith to explain why we are "wrong"?

Quote from: Sarah Louise on November 16, 2012, 10:33:28 AM
Here is the original question by Shawn Sunshine:

I am not sure I understand how a few folks have come to have interfaith and religious stances. How does one follow something other than Christianity in addition to being Christian and not then be following another God. How could you come to terms with including more than one religion in your mind and heart?
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Which goes into if the Bible says one thing but another religion says something else on the same topic how do you reconcile the two? For instance it was recorded that Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life no man comes to the Father but by me.",how do you then take it and try to reconcile it to something that says Jesus is just one way? It does not make sense.
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Sarah Louise

That is a purely personal decision.

To me the Bible wins out, maybe not to you or someone else.  It also depends on the Faith you have in the book your reading.

I "choose" to have Faith in the Bible and what it says, I "choose" to take it literally (not as a fable or story).  That is my right.
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SarahM777

Quote from: Sarah Louise on November 16, 2012, 01:28:01 PM
That is a purely personal decision.

To me the Bible wins out, maybe not to you or someone else.  It also depends on the Faith you have in the book your reading.

I "choose" to have Faith in the Bible and what it says, I "choose" to take it literally (not as a fable or story).  That is my right.

And I agree with you. I do believe that Jesus is as He said The way,The truth,and The life and it is only through Him that we can go to the Father.
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Constance