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Started by muuu, November 29, 2012, 01:35:07 AM

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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: muuu on November 30, 2012, 03:14:01 AM
Measurements isn't everything... depends shape on where the "numbers" are coming from.
Like, I'm pretty flat, but really wide, making it way harder for me to get wide enough hips, because they don't follow the scheme of my upper body.

"Flat hips" aren't going to get you clocked. They may be a feature on you that you hate but guess what... it's extremely rare for any female gender to be completely happy about everything on your body and your face. You are so eager to tear yourself down without even giving yourself a chance. You want to be perfect and the cold hard reality is, NOBODY is, not even cis women.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Nicolette

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I completely understand your frustrations regarding hips. If you don't think you can ever truly accept yourself as you currently are then there are options and solutions do exist. HRT will definitely help, if you allow yourself to gain weight. Exercising the lower body will also help. Fat grafting and butt implants may be very effective if HRT and exercise don't do what you were hoping. The fact that these options do exist should give you some hope. Give HRT a little time and patience. Try out some hips pads until HRT kicks in or until you can afford a surgical route.

HRT and exercise helped me. But I'm still not happy about my shape, because I'm a bldy perfectionist. That is one of the worst afflictions to curse me, forget GID!  :laugh: Anyway, I'm having some fat grafting done next month. I'm hoping this will improve the width of my hips.

Your situation is not a forlorn one. Trust me, I know.
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Nicolette

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HeatherR

ugh, you girls...  of course they are doctored.  and of course you're looking for any and every reason to clock someone... fact of the matter is she has a pretty much perfect 1.0 waist to hip ratio... lol  I'm done.. this is pointless.

The whole point is that the first picture is meant to invoke a human being's natural first response to look at the face.  It is how we identify someone.  Once there was nothing to identify, we then scan further, seeing what we want to see.  The second picture is to show, as an example, that you indeed recognize the face and there is no way you could view her in any other way.

Perhaps using a different person for the example would have been better for this particular example, I felt it enhanced the point I was trying to make.  Fact of the matter is, we are a lot more critical than most because we have researched and nitpicked, and stressed, and done very drastic things to change people's perception of small details on our body and faces.

If I may use Alaina as an example, nobody would have guessed her as female before HRT, but now?  I don't see a speck of male there.. not one bit.  She has done her homework and worked very hard on her presentation and it shows.  Most cis have no idea what their waist to hip ratio is.  Most cis don't look scan a body from head to toe to prove someone doesn't pass.  That is our eternal insecurity.  It comes with the territory.
The obstacles of your past can become the gateways that lead to new beginnings.  ~Ralph Blum~



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Seyranna

Probably been said I just skimmed through the thread but you're not in need of wider hips, you're in need of a slimmer waist and proper lower back/glutes/buttlocks fat connection...

EDIT: and BTW Heather is right you gender people from the nose up... Having no waist, no hips and wide shoulders will not get you clocked.
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: HeatherR on November 30, 2012, 08:11:54 PM
Most cis have no idea what their waist to hip ratio is.  Most cis don't look scan a body from head to toe to prove someone doesn't pass.  That is our eternal insecurity.  It comes with the territory.

First of all, thank you so much for the compliments. Second, you are so, so right. I look at myself all the time and ask how anybody in their right mind could see me as anything but trans. We are beyond insecure with our looks because we see the same flat chin and hanging mandible bone that NOBODY really knows to look for unless they're trans themselves or they've been around enough trans people to know what to look for. Trust me, waist to hip is pretty much not gonna clock anybody. I wish i could redo my entire rib cage all the freaking time because I know what to look for... meanwhile cis girls act like they want to kill me when I say something about hating my body.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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muuu

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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: muuu on November 30, 2012, 11:18:26 PM
Uhm, I don't know. I always look for head to shoulder ratio, hip to shoulder ratio, ribcage to shoulder and hip ratio and I guess waist to hip ratio. That's unless they're really pretty and you're just drawn to their face.

Like, even if the face is alright, the rest of the body has an impact too. Pretty face and no hips would look quite strange... and to be honest I've never seen a girl like that.

See my above post.

Most people don't look at that crap. They make a blind judgement and that's it. Most people just assume that if  you look female and sound female, you're female. You only do it because you're obsessed about it like many of us are (myself included).

And btw, I have seen women with a pretty face and no hips. And when I say no hips... I mean none. As in you could balance a marble on them if she was laying on her side. Google images it, you'll see em.

Lastly, most women dress to their assets hon. Lots of women hide the fact they don't have hips by wearing tops with a loose bottom half, or with a shirt that has the elastic at the bottom so you can adjust where the largest part of the hips are, and by doing that make the rest of the shirt loose fitting, giving the illusion of having hips. There are a few tips to wear your hips rather than show your hips. There's a reason women try stuff on before buying it.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Silvermist

Look, the reality is that muuu doesn't just suffer from gender dysphoria like the rest of us do; she also has a serious case of body dysmorphia. It's a cognitive dysfunction. Nothing that you do or say or show her will change her mind, because her perspective is not a rational one and therefore won't be receptive to reason alone. It's like anorexia (which, apparently, she also had): Anorexics have a severely distorted perception of their body image, and no matter how thin they are, they always think that they're not thin enough. What they see in the mirror is literally warped to them, the same way that their way of thinking is warped. Give them examples of attractive, famous healthy-weight or curvy women, and they dismiss your examples without another thought.

But an unhealthy body image is NOT at the core of anorexia; it's a symptom of a much larger and more complex problem. I've recently read that one common explanation is that many/most anorexics feel totally out of control of their own lives, so they obsess about one thing over which they feel like they have some control. Everything else may be out of their hands, but at least they can always refuse/decline/avoid eating. muuu says that she's at a fairly healthy weight now, thanks to some treatment for her anorexia, but what seems clear is that the original problem(s) at the core of her anorexia have not been resolved and are now manifesting hand-in-hand with her gender dysphoria. Please take a look at her other posts here and in other threads. If you read closely, doesn't everything sound like the words of someone who feels totally out of control?

Frankly, what she needs is not so much the support of fellow trans people on a forum like this. What she needs is to find a way to get professional psychological/psychiatric help again. Otherwise, she'll just continue down a dark path with her dysfunctional thoughts, a path that will likely end in tragedy.


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Nicolette

I've always wondered what the Princess of Monaco's hip/shoulder measurements were.

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Sadie

Look at Hope Solo.  No hips to speak of, ripped abs, small breasts, muscled arms, masculine jaw, still no one misgenders her.




Sadie
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Nicolette

Quote from: Sadie on December 02, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
Look at Hope Solo.  No hips to speak of, ripped abs, small breasts, muscled arms, masculine jaw, still no one misgenders her.

If she were misgendered she'd merely only need to open her mouth to dismiss all doubt. She not only looks gorgeous, she sounds gorgeous too. I'd never heard of her. Thanks for that.
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