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Started by LilDevilOfPrada, January 04, 2013, 04:58:08 PM

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LilDevilOfPrada

First off if there is a link to a website on how this works please share!

I know men can only have 1 orgasm so heres where i get confused how post SRS can some women have more then 1  :o

Logically speaking that goes against the brain right i mean how does the sudden lost of 1 limb rewrite the brain??

Anyways i would love to know because i am a person who well cant stop thinking about one thing till i can find a reason ><.

Anyways yet another TMI question brought to you by Zoey!!
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Zumbagirl

I don't think it's the brain as much as it is, the equipment functions differently. A vagina has no "recharging" necessary between orgasms like a penis does.  The penis is all muscles and blood flow and needs to relax before it can function again. A vagina is all soft tissue that just needs the magic touch, thought or moment to be aroused. With no recharging that means I can keep going and have another one, which I frequently do when it's just me alone. My record is 4 and I was pretty drained after that. I'm usually pretty happy with 2.
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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: Zumbagirl on January 04, 2013, 06:43:34 PM
I don't think it's the brain as much as it is, the equipment functions differently. A vagina has no "recharging" necessary between orgasms like a penis does.  The penis is allmuscles ad blood fow and needs to relax before it can function again. A vagina is all soft tissue that just needs the magic touch, thought or moment to be aroused. With no recharging that means I can keep going and have another one, which I frequently do when it's just me alone. My record is 4 and I was pretty drained after that. I'm usually pretty happy with 2.

Ah I see, I am also gussing your also one of the really lucky one! I mean I have so little material to work with that after my SRS I would be happy to get any sensativty lol.

Anyways back to topic, I still find it mind boggling because after 1 orgasm a male goes numb I would figure that was a safety trigger in the brain but hey what would I know i am after all quite pre-op.
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peky

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on January 04, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
Ah I see, I am also gussing your also one of the really lucky one! I mean I have so little material to work with that after my SRS I would be happy to get any sensativty lol.

Anyways back to topic, I still find it mind boggling because after 1 orgasm a male goes numb I would figure that was a safety trigger in the brain but hey what would I know i am after all quite pre-op.

The areas of the brain that are active during orgasm are not exactly the same in males and females. It is conceivable that in TS women their brain was already a female-like one and that under the influence of estrogen triggers a new and repetitive female-mode orgasms
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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: peky on January 04, 2013, 06:53:31 PM
The areas of the brain that are active during orgasm are not exactly the same in males and females. It is conceivable that in TS women their brain was already a female-like one and that under the influence of estrogen triggers a new and repetitive female-mode orgasms

Ooo I never considered that I mean it makes sense that hormones would help so hmm interesting.
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kelly_aus

Here's an interesting idea for you Zoey..

As a pre-op, how many times I can O is determined by what is being stimulated. Stimulate the external genitalia, I'm good for one go then need a rest.. If my prostate is being stimulated, I'm good for several orgasms..

I should probably mention the 2 types of orgams are quite different.. I prefer the repeatable type..
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Zumbagirl

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on January 04, 2013, 06:47:33 PM
Ah I see, I am also gussing your also one of the really lucky one! I mean I have so little material to work with that after my SRS I would be happy to get any sensativty lol.

Anyways back to topic, I still find it mind boggling because after 1 orgasm a male goes numb I would figure that was a safety trigger in the brain but hey what would I know i am after all quite pre-op.

I think it has a lot to do with it (a male piece) is basically a muscle that is engorged with blood during stimulation and after orgasm the body turns back to normal, the blood flow recedes and the piece returns to normal. But a clitoris by comparison doesn't have anything to return to. It's the same before and after.

I didn't consider myself other than average sized back when I had something to look at dangling. It's been so long that to be honest I hardly remember it anymore or even what it was like. The new equipment suits me so much better. All I can say is that I definitely traded up :)

As far as brains, I just don't know to be honest. There's no real science, and although a few brains have been dissected, it still doesn't prove anything to me. Let me just say that I am anatomically correct. To me it feels completely natural to be  one of the vaginally equipped members of the human species than the other way around.
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RedFox

While it's common to think that men can only have a single orgasm, there is plenty of evidence to prove that idea false.   With training and control a man can learn to have multiple orgasms - similar to a woman.  The problem with this is that it requires the man to not ejaculate - essentially he has to learn to ride the threshold and not go over it.

I've done it a few times but it takes a great deal of concentration and willpower - not to mention a partner that understands what your'e trying to do and isn't trying to push you over the edge.

All that being said I'm looking forward to having multiples as a female - seems so much easier and more enjoyable.


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Kevin Peña

I've had one orgasm in my life, and I was dizzy and tired afterwards. I don't know why people want more than 1!  :laugh:
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Catherine Sarah

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on January 04, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Logically speaking that goes against the brain right i mean how does the sudden lost of 1 limb rewrite the brain??

Just to put things in perspective. The"limb" is not lost. It is retained and repositioned complete with nerve bundle. The brain just has to re map where it is and how it's used. Oestrogen assists in this task.

2.) Not all of the corpus cavarnosum (gland penis) is removed as it's still connected to the pubic bone. However its remainder is covered and creates part of the clitoris, which still retains stimulatory function during intercourse/foreplay. 

3.) The prostate in MtF or the Skene gland in females (essentially a modified prostate) is a major factor in sexual arousal and stimulation, during intercourse including foreplay.

Essentially the vagina or neo vagina lining has very little nerve tissue associated with it, as does the penile shaft skin, and subsequently plays a very small role in the overall stimulation game.

Sexual stimulation is an all body experience. Once the brain engages in the game, it sends information to all other erogenous zones putting them on notice that something exciting is just about to happen, so look sharp and join in.

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Catherine




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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on January 05, 2013, 09:32:13 AM
Just to put things in perspective. The"limb" is not lost. It is retained and repositioned complete with nerve bundle. The brain just has to re map where it is and how it's used. Oestrogen assists in this task.

2.) Not all of the corpus cavarnosum (gland penis) is removed as it's still connected to the pubic bone. However its remainder is covered and creates part of the clitoris, which still retains stimulatory function during intercourse/foreplay. 

3.) The prostate in MtF or the Skene gland in females (essentially a modified prostate) is a major factor in sexual arousal and stimulation, during intercourse including foreplay.

Essentially the vagina or neo vagina lining has very little nerve tissue associated with it, as does the penile shaft skin, and subsequently plays a very small role in the overall stimulation game.

Sexual stimulation is an all body experience. Once the brain engages in the game, it sends information to all other erogenous zones putting them on notice that something exciting is just about to happen, so look sharp and join in.

Huggs
Catherine

Love your answer thanks :P
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Jamie D

Quote from: LilDevilOfPrada on January 04, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
First off if there is a link to a website on how this works please share!

I know men can only have 1 orgasm so heres where i get confused how post SRS can some women have more then 1  :o

Logically speaking that goes against the brain right i mean how does the sudden lost of 1 limb rewrite the brain??

Anyways i would love to know because i am a person who well cant stop thinking about one thing till i can find a reason ><.

Anyways yet another TMI question brought to you by Zoey!!

The "refractory period" for natal males varies, but can be as little as a few minutes.  So, there are multiorgasmic males.
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Cindy

Quote from: Pleasingly Plump Jamie D on January 09, 2013, 12:22:13 AM
The "refractory period" for natal males varies, but can be as little as a few minutes.  So, there are multiorgasmic males.

Names and addresses please >:-)
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Jamie D

Quote from: Cindy James on January 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
Names and addresses please >:-)

1995 study out of Rutgers University documented one talented male individual who achieved 6 orgasms in 36 minutes.

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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: Pleasingly Plump Jamie D on January 09, 2013, 02:29:44 AM
1995 study out of Rutgers University documented one talented male individual who achieved 6 orgasms in 36 minutes.
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RedFox

Of all the MTF folks on here am I really the only one that's ever achieved multiple orgasms as a male??  Really?  Everyone acts like this is an amazing and unbelievable thing.

Sure, it took practice and self-control... but it's so worth it!  Of course, I'm looking to much easier and more frequent O's as a female.   >:-)


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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: SageFox on January 09, 2013, 03:02:16 PM
Of all the MTF folks on here am I really the only one that's ever achieved multiple orgasms as a male??  Really?  Everyone acts like this is an amazing and unbelievable thing.

Sure, it took practice and self-control... but it's so worth it!  Of course, I'm looking to much easier and more frequent O's as a female.   >:-)

Well to be fair the last time I actually tried I was 16  ::) I cant actually get myself to touch it anymore.
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kelly_aus

Quote from: SageFox on January 09, 2013, 03:02:16 PM
Of all the MTF folks on here am I really the only one that's ever achieved multiple orgasms as a male??  Really?  Everyone acts like this is an amazing and unbelievable thing.

Sure, it took practice and self-control... but it's so worth it!  Of course, I'm looking to much easier and more frequent O's as a female.   >:-)

Umm, no, not the only one.. It was kinda amazing the first time..
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kinz

i still dont understand this thing like how orgasms are apparently totally different after hrt/after surgery or w/e

like

im seven months post op but

my orgasms feel pretty much exactly the same way they always have ?? ?????

i dunno folks this continues to mystify me especially when people start talking about the multiple stuff i mean like im sure if i kept going id get like another one after the refractory period was over but im not sure thats really the same thing? ?

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eli77

Quote from: transtrender on January 20, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
i still dont understand this thing like how orgasms are apparently totally different after hrt/after surgery or w/e

like

im seven months post op but

my orgasms feel pretty much exactly the same way they always have ?? ?????

i dunno folks this continues to mystify me especially when people start talking about the multiple stuff i mean like im sure if i kept going id get like another one after the refractory period was over but im not sure thats really the same thing? ?

I don't really think there is a difference, personally. Like between cis women and cis men, there is no difference, imo. An orgasm is an orgasm. It's like the same babble babble about how females have crappy 3D spacial mapping and can't be physicists which has now been pretty much entirely proven to be trash. My sis and I both score in the 99th percentile for that particular skill, so anyways... Basically male/female brains? Not super diff.

I think the only difference is the refractory period shifts. The extreme hypersensitivity post-orgasm doesn't last nearly as long as it used to now, which is, I think, just a factor of less erectile tissue. So it's like seconds rather than 10-15min (mine was fairly short pre-op, ya). The sudden drop in interest still happens, but you can push through that. And if you push through that period, it doesn't generally take as long to get off a second (or third, or fourth, or etc.) time. Which is what people talk about when they mean "multiple orgasms." Like if you keep going after the first, keeping the person in question turned on during the refractory period, you can get another orgasm almost immediately after the refractory period ends. So you can do a few orgasms in the space of a few minutes. (And there is some variance, some folks have longer refractory periods despite their equipment.) Or at least that was my experience with other vagina-having persons.

I've yet to actually work up the desire to try to go for two in a row myself, especially given how inanely long it still takes just to get one, post-op. I'm sure eventually I'll do the experiment. For science.
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