Majority of transguys are gay?

[assorted_human]

I consider myself to be straight. I'd say I'm attracted to men about 10% of the time. The chances of me dating a guy are slim to none though. Guys for me are more a one night stand type thing. There's only one guy I've thought of dating since I've been out and passing. Women are all around far more appealing and easier to be around.
However, I like some "girly music", sewing and some other things that have made people think I'm gay. I'm just queer. (shrugs) I'm not a man's man.

[Arch]

I also believe EVERYONE is pansexual, for the right person (not sure if there's a different term for that), whether they're willing to admit it or not.

Wow. So all of those years I tried to force myself to like girls and really hated every minute of it, all those years of pretending and lying to myself and others, all of those years of lying were actually quite the opposite because I hadn't found the right woman?

I am finally being honest about who I am and what I am--A GAY MAN--and have fully embraced it and no longer feel the need to pretend. I have felt gay for forty-five of my fifty years, from even before I knew what gay was or even what sex was. But I'm really not because I haven't found the right woman?

I wasn't lying to myself after all, but I'm lying to myself now, because I haven't found the right woman?

Sorry, but that's downright insulting.

[Bastian]

Just playing the devil's advocate here Arch so bear with me, but D0ll did say 'someone' not woman. I personally would and have infact leaned towards his opinion in the past, just based on my own experiences with my sexuality. I don't know if this is what he meant, but it's how I interpret his opinion; that we, as humans with complex sexuality, have the ability to become attracted to anyone, regardless of the gender of that other person, and in the sense of human nature that's true. Humans ignore the bonding of only males and females (which almost all other animals obey) and have the ability to develop attraction towards either/any sex. I can prove this is true by saying to you "I am gay, my friend is straight and my professor is lesbian." Thereby proving that everyone has the capacity to love anyone.

I don't see it as (and again this is my own opinion) saying that we are all pansexual here in this exact moment, but that at some point (around when we begin to discover sexuality) we are pansexual and at that moment we begin to branch off from pansexuality and hone in more on being straight, or gay, or lesbian, or queer, or bi, or asexual, etc.

However I do find the "whether they're willing to admit it or not" a bit heavy handed as I would argue that such a pansexual state of being, for most people here, has come and gone, whether it was noticed or not and therefore doesn't really need to be 'admitted to'.

Anyways, that might not be what D0ll meant, but it's another way to observe this way of thinking. In my own theory one could interchange the word 'pansexuality' with a state of being a blank slate with regards to sexuality.

[Arch]

Bastian, I appreciate the considered response. But for my entire adult life, I have heard people saying that gay men can be sexually attracted to women if they just find the right one. Or that gay men can be straight if they really want to, or whatever. I know what I like sexually, and it ain't women, despite half a lifetime of pretending otherwise.

The trouble with absolute statements is that it takes only one counterexample to prove them wrong. The trouble with defining other people TO other people (and not privately, to yourself) is that it's no one's place to do so. One problem with making absolute statements about other people's identities is that the one making the statement can always fall back on "You're just not willing to admit it." I call that both extremely presumptuous and a logical fallacy, if you will excuse my non-parallel structure.

I become hellaciously agitated when someone else appears to be trying to define me, and I become almost as upset when people try to define someone else. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Do not, DO NOT presume to define me, especially where my gender and sexuality are concerned. I have fought too long and too hard to assert my male gayness to just lie down and take it when someone wants to tell me I'm something else. My sexuality is a goddamn serious big deal to me, and nobody else gets to tell me what it is. NOBODY.

[Arch]

I should add one more thing: I know that Doll expressed it as a personal opinion and not a statement of fact. That's the only reason I haven't called out the big guns. But I still think that such opinions invite swift censure, and that is what I have done.

[Soren]

I'm asexual. Maybe the homosexual ones just tend to talk more?

[Liminal Stranger]

This kind of died, huh ^^

Though my response on my own orientation would have changed since last time, unless I'm just forgetting and I already posted about it. Currently I still identify as asexual, but in the romantic sense I am most definitely straight (yay for finding that out one extremely feminine boyfriend and one girlfriend later >.>). Took me long enough to figure out that I really don't like boys that way at all. However, the shaky nervousness I feel around girls lately hints towards a bit of physical attraction coming into play here, intellectually I don't approve of sexual things for whatever reason (find them gross), so I'm hoping my body doesn't suddenly switch sides in the matter and stage a rebellion. Yikes would that suck. 

[Liam]

Right now I feel like I'd be jealous and uncomfortable with cis guys because they'd have the body I'm meant to have, and I struggle with cis girls simply because I've spent so much time forced into all-female environments. I don't have a single clue about my sexuality.

[YBtheOutlaw]

well i've been thinking about the same thing cos this is the only place i get to meet openly trans people and i've noticed the same thing.
i'm straight anyway and i've had feelings for girls ever since i was supposed to have feelings for the opposite sex. but i'm not saying i'm completely neutral in front of cis males. sometimes i do get nervous and all that maybe becos i still have female hormones inside so my body is responding accordingly. but i completely HATE feeling that way and i deny i felt like that immediately after. so i guess that means im straight right?

[thatboyfresh]

I am a heterosexual male. I never have found my self attracted to males in any way, I've never had a crush. I've never had or desired a boyfriend, I've never entertained the thought of having anything more then a friendship ( a non "with benefits" one) to a male identified person. For me psychical attraction has to be there . I don't mean that to be shallow or anything. Looks are not my number one make or break deal for a relationship. But I find it to be a factor in a LTR all the same. Just my 2 pesos

[NathanielM]

I think maybe transmen are often more open to fluidity in their sexuality than cismen would be. But I don't think gay guys are in the majority. I personally am pansexual but I have a preference for masculinity.

[dalebert]

As a gay man myself, this sounds nice because it would mean a bigger dating pool, but that's just wishful thinking. Clearly it's not the case.

[Brandon]

I'm a straight transguy 

[Mosnar_K]

I'm straight but I don't go around women my age at all. I only talk to older women because I'm not attracted to them.

[Erik Ezrin]

Yeah, I'm pansexual too (or actually demisexual (AKA: I need to get to know someone and like them as a person before I can be attracted to them. Weird, I know, but I only know for a short time that there's a NAME for what I'm feeling, lol!) pan... romantic? I guess)
But weirdly enough my 'main reference' can vary a bit from time to time. Some weeks/days I'm almost exclusively attracted to women, while other days my attraction mainly goes out to men. Maybe it will stabilise once on T, I dunno...

Something which popped in my mind, but sorta offtopic; I've always found the term "transsexual" pretty weird, lol. As it has nothing to do with sexuality. It almost sounds like you're only attracted to transgender people, LOL! XD

[Mosnar_K]

That is a confusing statement.

I won't go around girls I'm attracted to because I'll accidentally flirt with them and they'll get offended and won't talk to me anymore or look at me like I'm weird and distance their selves from me . The only girl that didn't do that was my ex. So these days I just avoid people entirely.

[JaredLeBlanc]

WHAT??? Are you serious??? I thought that 80-90% of FTMs were straight!!! 

I mean, i have met so many straight FTMs online (i have never met any in real life but then again i have never met any gay FTMs in real life too, lol ). I thought that being a FTM and gay was relatively rare, something like 5-15% of all FTMs. This is the same with cis-males. Scientists say that 5-15% of cis-male population is gay but they can never find the exact numbers of course.

I would love to talk to other GAY FTMs!!! I just wanna talk to someone who can understand the way i feel, this is to have a friend who will understand what's it's like to be a FTM and gay. Because in my opinion this is so much harder than being a FTM and straight.

If you are a FTM and into girls, once you transition, the road is open for you. But if you are a FTM and gay, once you transition the road is... well, not exactly closed but much more narrowed for you. You will be outside of the society's norms and preferences again. You will never be "normal". You are finally a guy but you are gay too. And this automatically puts you in a funny situation. You will never be seen as "normal" in the society (it depends on the country you live in, but in my country i will never be normal to their standards).

Well i  hope to hear from you gay guys!

[Adam (birkin)]

I think it depends on where you are...I've met circles where it seems like all the guys are gay, and then circles where it seems like all the guys are straight. I have always wondered how they manage to be so segregated at times lol.

[Brandon]

WHAT??? Are you serious??? I thought that 80-90% of FTMs were straight!!! 

I mean, i have met so many straight FTMs online (i have never met any in real life but then again i have never met any gay FTMs in real life too, lol ). I thought that being a FTM and gay was relatively rare, something like 5-15% of all FTMs. This is the same with cis-males. Scientists say that 5-15% of cis-male population is gay but they can never find the exact numbers of course.

I would love to talk to other GAY FTMs!!! I just wanna talk to someone who can understand the way i feel, this is to have a friend who will understand what's it's like to be a FTM and gay. Because in my opinion this is so much harder than being a FTM and straight.

If you are a FTM and into girls, once you transition, the road is open for you. But if you are a FTM and gay, once you transition the road is... well, not exactly closed but much more narrowed for you. You will be outside of the society's norms and preferences again. You will never be "normal". You are finally a guy but you are gay too. And this automatically puts you in a funny situation. You will never be seen as "normal" in the society (it depends on the country you live in, but in my country i will never be normal to their standards).

Well i  hope to hear from you gay guys!

As a straight ftm who loves the ladies  I have to disagree, You have no idea how many grls told me their strickly dickly, Matter of fact thats the only reason Ive been rejected because I'm lacking parts, It is hard as hell to get a girlfriend and I speak from experience, And most girls have told they would like me if I had a dick, Bottom line is no one is gonna see ftms and mtfs as normal, Again I speak from experience

[Darrin Scott]

As a straight ftm who loves the ladies  I have to disagree, You have no idea how many grls told me their strickly dickly, Matter of fact thats the only reason Ive been rejected because I'm lacking parts, It is hard as hell to get a girlfriend and I speak from experience, And most girls have told they would like me if I had a dick, Bottom line is no one is gonna see ftms and mtfs as normal, Again I speak from experience

I think it depends on who you're talking to. I DO have a cis girlfriend who has only been with cis dudes before me and she sees me completely as male DESPITE the face that there is no penis. I know many other dudes in the same situation as me or have been at one time. Not all women will not see us as "normal". That's a gross generalization.