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Started by Keira, February 20, 2013, 09:16:12 PM

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Keira

For those of us who didn't know quite what we were from a young age...

I never knew that I was female, all I knew is that I was much different than other people my age. When I figured out what was wrong everything got much worse (which is relative to bad). I hate who and what I am, and I don't know how I can come to accept myself.

Was it worse when you did or didn't know who/what you were?

How did you accept yourself?
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Edge

Yeah, my dysphoria has gotten worse since I figured it out. I don't hate myself because I like my personality, but I can't wait until I can transition physically.
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holly_

I am MtF, 27 years old and I am just now starting to think about transitioning.  I've known almost my whole life that I was "different" but I still played societies game and tried to be male.  I actually didn't really know until a few months ago that its quite possible to transition very successfully.  For the longest time I always thought that I was permanently trapped in this male body and there was nothing at all I could do about it.  I am so happy that I got the courage to start doing more research online about being transgendered.  I got a lot of inspiration from the MtF transition videos on youtube and I was like "I could do that and be happy too!".   Every day I think about transitioning but its going to take a lot of time and effort.. must take baby steps!

It took 27 years to actually accept myself about being transgendered.  I always tried to hide it hoping it would just go away.  But, it hasn't.  And now its time to do something about it.  I'm going to be seeing a therapist about all of this on Monday..first time.  And I have laser hair removal next week too for my face.  Good luck to me! hehe
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Elspeth

Many of us can (and I certainly did) internalize a lot of the messages that I felt I was getting from society at large. Still each of us has a different story, and my sense is these things sometimes go in waves. The key to making peace, though, is to accept the revelations as they come, but don't accept everything people might project on you. And if things are getting too difficult at any time, do yourself a favor, step back a little, consider what you are doing now, and what could give you bliss (or reduce the stresses) and allow yourself some comfort... and I don't mean Southern Comfort.  But it's okay to take a break by finding other things to think about or to do that don't activate the anxieties you may be dealing with.  I doubt there's anyone here who hasn't had to deal with anxiety, triggering incidents or other things that are far from fun.

I get the sense from your other recent posts that you are in the middle of HRT, beginning to show some unmistakeable signs of change? Or am I over-reading?

It's come to mind when reading your posts that you might want to check in with the doc managing your dosages to confirm that levels are where they should be, and maybe just to reality check or discuss whatever coping strategies might work in dealing with your current anxiety levels and other concerns.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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Keira

Quote from: Elspeth on February 20, 2013, 09:36:44 PM
I get the sense from your other recent posts that you are in the middle of HRT, beginning to show some unmistakeable signs of change? Or am I over-reading?

No, I'm not on hrt; but I wish I was.
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Elspeth

My son just sent this to me... it's beautiful, and not solely for transfolk, but for all the people who are in a kind of pain not of their own choosing, whatever the "reasons" might be.  Also about bullying, which I have to assume is an experience many of us share, but ultimately about finding inner strength and beauty.

To This Day Project - Shane Koyczan
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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CybilB

Thanks for sharing that video, that was fantastic.

As for the Original Posters question: I've always struggled with depression and self-loathing, so I wouldn't say the realization made things worse, it just gave me one more thing to be neurotic over. I still wonder who and what I am sometimes, but the times I really feel happy are the times when I'm taking steps to feminize myself.
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Keira

Quote from: Elspeth on February 20, 2013, 09:53:37 PM
My son just sent this to me... it's beautiful, and not solely for transfolk, but for all the people who are in a kind of pain not of their own choosing, whatever the "reasons" might be.  Also about bullying, which I have to assume is an experience many of us share, but ultimately about finding inner strength and beauty.

To This Day Project - Shane Koyczan

Thank you :)
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JenSquid

Quote from: holly_ on February 20, 2013, 09:32:46 PM
It took 27 years to actually accept myself about being transgendered.  I always tried to hide it hoping it would just go away.  But, it hasn't.  And now its time to do something about it.  I'm going to be seeing a therapist about all of this on Monday..first time.  And I have laser hair removal next week too for my face.  Good luck to me! hehe
Sounds like what I need to do. Good luck! ^_^

Quote from: CybilB on February 20, 2013, 11:55:43 PM
As for the Original Posters question: I've always struggled with depression and self-loathing, so I wouldn't say the realization made things worse, it just gave me one more thing to be neurotic over. I still wonder who and what I am sometimes, but the times I really feel happy are the times when I'm taking steps to feminize myself.
I can certainly relate to this. What's odd is that I was finally starting to make some headway with my depression this last summer, then things started downhill when school picked up. I then I realized I was trans, and have been somewhat of a mess since. It hasn't stopped my other problems, just added another thing to the pile. At least I don't feel like I have that unexplained background angst anymore, though.
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Heather

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 20, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
For those of us who didn't know quite what we were from a young age...

I never knew that I was female, all I knew is that I was much different than other people my age. When I figured out what was wrong everything got much worse (which is relative to bad). I hate who and what I am, and I don't know how I can come to accept myself.

Was it worse when you did or didn't know who/what you were?

How did you accept yourself?
It took me years to accept myself I known that I wanted to be a girl since I was 5. I didn't find out what transsexual was until about 11 when I just happened to catch one of those early 90's talk shows. They were talking about I'm a women trapped in men's body's. I heard this and was thinking this sounds a lot like me. Well as I got older I found out more about this. And accept for the two years I was kinda out when I was a teenager. Actually I was more than kinda out some by my doing most of it not. I wish I had fully accepted myself back then. I was not prepared for the backlash coming out would have. Heck I didn't even know what coming out was back then I just got sick of lying to people I cared about and decided to tell them. Trust me you learn quick who your true friends are when you come out. I don't think I ever meant to be outed to the whole school but I should have been more careful who I trusted back then. Anyway after switching schools I went back pretending like I was just a normal guy. But I wasn't and I knew that to! The first couple of years back in the closet were doable but as time went on it became worse and I pushed people further and further away from me. Until I was quite the miserable person just staying quiet and keeping people at a distance. Well this went on for years there would breaks here and there where I would believe I could transition. Well one day I was working with a coworker who is an out lesbian and it got me thinking here she is living her life out and nobody seems to care. I started to think about how brave she must be to be herself. Then I started thinking whats my problem why can't I be like her and be brave enough to be myself. Well I could go on and on about how came to accept myself but that was the beginning of me starting to accept myself and made me the woman I am today. To bad I haven't told my coworker how much she changed my life just by being herself. But as I said before it takes years to accept yourself there is no right way to go about this it just takes time and patience to get comfortable with yourself.  :)
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big kim

It was worse when I did know,I hated myself even more.Eventually I realised that being transexual was part of my character just  as much as being tall and having green eyes
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Zumbagirl

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 20, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
For those of us who didn't know quite what we were from a young age...

I never knew that I was female, all I knew is that I was much different than other people my age. When I figured out what was wrong everything got much worse (which is relative to bad). I hate who and what I am, and I don't know how I can come to accept myself.

Was it worse when you did or didn't know who/what you were?

How did you accept yourself?

The sky began to open for me when I began to realize that there were surgeries and a process that I could do which would enable me to live a comfortable life. Until that point I would look in the mirror and see that ugly hairy man staring back at me. I had tried everything I could think of up to that point, shaving my body, crossdressing on the side, owning my own female clothes, none of that relieved the problem. It still never cleared the gender dysphoria. I even tried self medicating with hormones and that only helped a little. Finally once I began to seriously transition and actually see the light at the end of the tunnel, is when I can say is that is when I started to live the best days of my life and my self acceptance began to soar. When I could see a day when I could live full time, I worked towards that furiously. Anything I could change I would change. Every little bit of me became an interesting little project to see how much I could change it.

As a child I didn't quite know what was wrong with me. I started crossdressing at an early age, although I don't remember exactly when. It was less than 10 years of age I'm certain. I remember being in high school and seeing the girls and wanting to be like them. I didn't want to date them, I always wanted to be one of them. Of course, there was no Internet, no research, no definition I could out on myself except flaming pervert, so I buried how I felt for lack of knowledge about who I really was. I was discovered all dressed up quite a few times growing up, i took the giant load of crap my parents laid on me, said I would never do it again, and the next day I was doing it again. I started buying my own clothes when I was about 16 and I would wear them to school. I stopped take gym class in school and mommy and daddy's A student suddenly had a drop in grades because there was no way in hell I would undress in the boys locker room. Still I had no idea of who I was, not even a clue.

After college I joined a cross dresser club and would start going out more all dressed up. Now that I liked. I would get all dressed up and go shopping, out to the movies, dinner, etc. Being in the closet did not work for me, and hanging around in a club didn't work either. That's where I met and found out about transsexualism and met a t girl live. I just remember thinking of. How pretty and natural she looked. No facial hair, a pretty face, nice long hair, real boobs. It took me a little while longer before I realized what I had to do. Taking that first step towards the transition was the scariest part. Picking up the phone, or going to a support group, scared the bejesus out of me. But eventually I did do it. When in finally made it to a support group, I met a post op and thought to myself, what a beautiful woman. She had a pretty face, great personality, beautiful voice, and I thought wow that could be me.

The self acceptance part for me is when I realized that I was no different than anyone else that is just like me. You can change the names, dates, times and places but the story is still the same. Okay so now I knew, but that pretty girl over there sure must have been born on the pretty side of the gene pool right? Well not exactly, but that's when I discovered that what testosterone had done could be undone with surgery. That's when I realized that I finally had a way out of this trap, by being a real life shape shifter :)
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Lesley_Roberta

Was it worse?

Hard to say.

My life reads like this.

17 and the army experiment is a wash, migraines killed that ambition.

21 and realizing my education on paper means I will always be seen as of no worth in the labour force.

29 and it is clear the only job I have ever liked has to end (delivering furniture), as my hands gave out (couldn't lift after 4 years of it).

34 and I lose the current job, which is crap but it is all I had, because of nervous breakdown.

36 and I find I have this weird condition called fybromyalgia that just killed my hopes of running a business.

Several years of being disabled and it folding spindling and mutilating my marriage and nearly ruining it.

And now this, I find out my true self is a woman.

Worse? well technically life has not gotten easier. But my life was already a massive burden to begin with.

I'm too busy coping to really give a ->-bleeped-<- about anyone that has a problem with me being a woman inside.
Well being TG is no treat, but becoming separated has sure caused me more trouble that being TG ever will be. So if I post, consider it me trying to distract myself from being lonely, not my needing to discuss being TG. I don't want to be separated a lot more than not wanting to be male looking.
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Shannon1979

Hard to answer that question. I think ive kinda always known. So its more is it worse after accepting it than realizing it. Only in the fact that im a fairly inpatient person and have a habit of wanting everything yesterday. But that aside no now i have come to accept it and am actually beggining to do something about it i feel better than i have in years. Of course there will be times that i feel its a waste of time, and im getting nowhere. Of that i have no doubt, but i have learnt over the past year or so that life doesnt always turn out as you would expect. Good thing too as it would be boring if it did. :angel:
Mountains can only be summounted by winding paths. And my path certainly has taken a few twists and turns.
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Catherine Sarah

Hi Sky,

Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 20, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
When I figured out what was wrong everything got much worse (which is relative to bad). I hate who and what I am, and I don't know how I can come to accept myself

I tend to think your answer lies in your first sentence. Was the information you used to DIY who you are absolutely correct and unbiased?  As our character and makeup come from many sources, it can be very difficult for the writer of informative papers to account for all the possibilities, hence conclusions are drawn from a variety of possible conclusions.

May be worth while to have a chat with a counsellor or therapist who understands TG matter and see if they can throw some light on your particular circumstances. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Be safe,well and happy
Huggs
Catherine




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Adelkhf

What helps me is knowing that I am exactly who I am whether I'm male or female. There will always be people who will try to put you down, tell you you're wrong, that you should be ashamed of yourself.

There is nothing to be ashamed of in wanting to be a man or a woman because there is nothing shameful about being a man or a women. It doesn't matter what gender you are or which you choose to become. You are you and that is the only person you can be. No matter what happens, stay honest to yourself and do not compromise on who you are.

It was not too long ago that I really discovered what I had was a condition rather than a perversion. I too felt a lot worse after finding out. I felt like a failure as a man and a disappointment to everyone around me. Heck, my first post here was essentially me freaking out about it all. While talking about it to people certainly helped, I feel what has helped me most of all is knowing that no matter what I choose, I will never stop being the person I am now. Nothing will ever change that.
"Shows you the kind of world we live in. Love is illegal - but not hate. That you can do anywhere, anytime, to anybody. But if you want a little warmth, a little tenderness, a shoulder to cry on, a smile to cuddle up with, you have to hide in dark corners, like a criminal." - Lou Jacobi
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BlueSloth

I like knowing what's wrong.  I like knowing why I have dysphoria and having some hope that I can do something about it.  I like knowing I don't have to deal with this alone because there are other people with the same problem I can talk to.

I feel like no matter how hard or scary things get now, I'll still never want to go back to when I just felt wrong and didn't know why.
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JenSquid

Quote from: Adelkhf on February 21, 2013, 10:56:04 AM
What helps me is knowing that I am exactly who I am whether I'm male or female. There will always be people who will try to put you down, tell you you're wrong, that you should be ashamed of yourself.

There is nothing to be ashamed of in wanting to be a man or a woman because there is nothing shameful about being a man or a women. It doesn't matter what gender you are or which you choose to become. You are you and that is the only person you can be. No matter what happens, stay honest to yourself and do not compromise on who you are.

It was not too long ago that I really discovered what I had was a condition rather than a perversion. I too felt a lot worse after finding out. I felt like a failure as a man and a disappointment to everyone around me. Heck, my first post here was essentially me freaking out about it all. While talking about it to people certainly helped, I feel what has helped me most of all is knowing that no matter what I choose, I will never stop being the person I am now. Nothing will ever change that.

This bears repeating, especially the second paragraph.
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Darkflame

I was really similar growing up. I didn't think of myself as a boy, but I knew I wasn't like other girls. Even as puberty came and the intense gender dysphoria and outright hatred at my body came, I still didn't know what my deal was. When I finally realized I was trans, I was relieved just to have a name for it and to know I wasn't the only one. Then it got worse for a while. I had a constant awareness of my body, and I just felt this constant anger that I was put in this body and that I was expected to be a girl because of it. To deal with it I did what I've always done, I numbed myself out to it. It took a couple years of that before I came back around and realized I had to deal with it, it wasn't going away and I couldn't live my life that way.
If I let where I'm from burn I can never return

"May those who accept their fate find happiness, those who defy it, glory"
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Michelle S.

It's not easy, or at least in my situation. I was fortunate that I've almost always known but unfortunate in that I spent my entire childhood dwelling on who I was. This dwelling destroyed my childhood. I spent so much time in trouble trying to be the, "cut up class clown, don't mess with me, we'll fight guys' guy," that I basically threw away every opportunity that was thrown at me. I did this because I was trying to feel like I fit in with other guys. It was the first to get into fights, whatever to feel like a "man". Internally, I spent the years hating myself, asking why these feelings wouldn't go away... Why I can't be normal... Why am I so weird... I was so depressed. I went through about 17 years of that. It nearly cost me my relationship with my longtime gf whom I have 2 kids with. I mean I put my life second to this constant struggle to not be who I am. My biggest fear my whole life was simple: If I am this, no one will love me. They'll hate me.

One day I realized in a way I already had made people hate me. My family had gone through so much because of the trouble I was constantly in. My girlfriend was sick of me being so detached and in my head all the time. All the depression. People were just over it. I was over it.

It wasn't easy, but day by day I started changing how I thought about myself. I started telling myself that I don't have to prove myself to other people. My happiness is not dependent on what other people think. Most importantly, I realized I'm not weird. What's weird is how I spent so much time trying to make other people happy. How I would put myself and family through hell just so the "cool guys" would invite me to hangout so I could say to myself, "see you're a guys' guy. This trans stuff is nonsense."


So don't be me. Don't dwell. Don't be ashamed of yourself; there is nothing to be ashamed of. Just take it day by day, talk it out in your head. When you do though make sure it's from your perspective and not society's. If you're happy, you're happy and that's all that matters.


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