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This hurts... Hard realization... I'm not the woman I wanted to be.....

Started by auburnAubrey, February 27, 2013, 10:14:45 AM

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jainie marlena

Quote from: Kelly the Trans-Rebel on March 03, 2013, 09:03:56 AM
I just thought after my earlier comment I should add that I'm not the woman I expected or wanted to be .. I'm still a hell of a woman though.
same here. far from who I wish I was.

Elle

OP I know that feel...oh god I know that feel,it hurts so bad and feels like a really strong emotional feeling in my stomach that leaves me in pain. I'm only in my 20's and yet i'm experiencing the samething you are. I've been trying to make peace with this for like 2 years now and i'm still in that grieving process, I don't think I can deal with this feeling anymore. I've cried more tears in the last two years then I ever could in a dozen lifetimes, it's like all transitioning has given me is a taste of what it's like to live as female but only a taste, I want the full experience, I want the life I should of had. It just doesn't seem fair we were born like this. 
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Rebecca Perez

I have been there also. It was such a painful realization. I kind of feel like this was one reason why dysphoria got worse over time---loss. I was angry that I lost out on the life I truly wanted. Those little experiences that ciswomen take for granted. At times, I feel like a fake or a poser because I lost out on the socialization of being  girl, a young woman, and then a woman.

You are not alone.

Remember, our lives are hallmarked by loss and grief. We have given up so much to stay alive and so much was taken from us. We never had a choice, we never had a chance at a "normal" life. How many of us, as little kids, prayed to God to change us into girls?

It is not a fair life. But this is also why we are some of the strongest people in the world. We defied and fought for those things that would have destroyed others.

It takes awhile to grieve. It's okay to grieve and be angry. To shout at God, the heavens, your pillow. In time, acceptance will come. We are a different people, and some of the acceptance comes from the realization.

My heart goes out to you.
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BurningBrilliance

I know exactly how you feel. My sister is a constant reminder of the childhood I never had. Truthfully I'm turning 19 next week and the fact that my family already considers me 19 hurts. I'm much younger than you are so I'm sorry if I sound rude but I feel like an old person.

I've always been that "boy", insecure, scared hiding and worrying. A smile is such an alien thing to me that I find it almost unbearable whenever I see someone else wearing it for real and not as a mask like I do.

I want to be that girl who has friends, who had crushes and actually dated. Who could look in the mirror brush her hair and smile. Who could took take a thousand pictures a day and not feel satisfied. Who could go to one friends house and then another's and another's, knowing guys, going to movies, shopping at the mall. I wish I could have been in the Girl Scouts, looked pretty in whatever I wore.

I could go on writing this fantasy that was never my reality. For some reason I love to torment myself on the saddest words anyone ever said or wrote, "what could have been".

Time never stopped to wait for me. I'm on hormones now, hoping to feel less old because I have a chance. The childhood I never had I can experience through reading writing, it's not impossible books can take you places.

My point is allow yourself to fantasize. Imagine that little girl, make her real because no one else will. If you lose sight of her then find her. She's probably alone and scared and once you reunite it will always be better.

I hope you find her because I lost her recently. Imagination is a hard thing to lose sight of no matter how temporary. The logical mind, our righty, tells us not to dream because dreaming never solves anything. In my opinion we have to dream because if we forget to dream we lose sight of what we hope to accomplish.

I hope you're feeling better. I'm feeling really bad myself but this is a support sight and we need to help a girl in need.

With love, Veronica
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calico

I just read,through most of this and can say this..... WOW., it really is almost like I was reading about myself, Thank You OP for this topic, and Thank you to everyone who has replied.
I got to start at 21, which I believe is too be younger than average, but I severly wish I could of opened up my walls that was keeping the little girl inside sooner than I did.
Because of the wall's and inner torment I had as a child during puberty I didnt even go all the way through highschool,heck I didnt even make it to highschool actually, I such a hap-hazard wreck that everything was just a reck, puberty really messed me up bad, I went though mental facilities to juvenile hall,to safe house's and nevr once did I mention how I felt, because I was raised in the bible belt where to think the thoughts I had or feeling I had were wrong,and during those times all I wanted to be was alone and not be around anyone because of the sheer confusion and I had no-idea abouut GID till I got older and found the internet.
I think that maybe it would have been easier if I had of said what was up,I think about what I missed at those ages, I still do think back and wonder what if...  and think about how I wish I could of had a prom with a beutiful dress and it goes on and on and on....
but the truth is this, I transitioned when I was 21, I had to ,I could no-longer live like I was because that girl got to the point of screaming and throwing a tantrum, and if she didnt get out she was going to kill her-self as what she knew she wasn't., Did I mis a lot? maybe, but who really knows its not worth thinking about it even though I cant help it, nor do I think anyone else can, but all I can do at this point is keep moving forward 1 step at a time.
I made a life and have tried to gain that which I didnt have, and I try not to look back past 21 even as it is sometimes really hard. What you have to ask your-self is this how bad does that girl want to be out there, and could you really see yourself happy not letting her out?
to me the answer was this ; I'd rather be homeless living in a ditch begging for food from stranger as a girl, than living comfortably making good money, and having a home/roof over my head as a guy.
I hope that my post can help you the original poster and maybe the other posters like your topic and the post's that are in it has helped me  :)
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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Michelle G

Just a "California Girl" trying to enjoy each sunny day
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collettemichelle

Hello auburnAubrey,
I hurt so much inside after reading your post.But I don't care about my feelings right now.Just yours.I'm so sorry that this is the way life panned out for you.The timing of it all.I can tell that you are a strong individual and will overcome,even this painful time you will overcome.For right now;right this minute know that my heart joins yours and is shedding tears for you as I type.I truly wish I was there to give you a long hug and let you let it all out with a friend who cares.
Your spirit is strong and I feel your consideration of others in need.That is extremely nice of you.It's not selfish of you ,at all,to dwell on your aching,your pains.It only becomes selfish when people put their selves first all the time.
Take time for yourself and remember that I will be thinking and hoping for You too.
Warmest hugs,love Collette Michelle.
"It was on that road and at that hour that I first became aware of my own self, experienced an inexpressible state of grace, and felt one with the first breath of air that stirred, the first bird, and the sun so newly born that it still looked not quite round."
    Sidonie-Gabrielle Colette
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Miranda Catherine

Hi Aubrey, maybe you're not ready to grieve, and maybe you're not meant to. If I grieve over the neutron bomb of a life I have lived I will never stop crying. So I try to look forward. I have so much to grieve over, some of my own doing, some from my family, society and whomever. The truth is, I think that I'm so fortunate to be alive and walking, after breaking 41 bones over different sports, most of them racing motocross, and a drunken bicycle accident in 2010 where I  sustained a 'burst' fracture of my T-12 vertebra, shattering it in nine pieces and leaking spinal fluid. But my crowning achievement was a stupid stunt of trying to be macho at 46 years, 363 days in 2001, jumping off a 70' bridge into the Columbia River with a friend's 17 and 23 year old sons and landing wrong, crushing two vertebrae and fracturing seven ribs. I will go to my grave with a now four time broken back, believing it was a miracle I made it to the surface that day, without floating to the surface face down and dead. I was not a successful male impersonator. I dropped a plank on my knee and broke my kneecap and damaging the tendon, ligaments and severely tearing my cartilage, after seven unsuccessful knee surgeries I found what I thought would take away my transsexual pain and physical agony, opiates. First codeine, then morphine and finally heroin. Addicted to heroin for 13 years I did two terms in California prisons before I found any peace in my life, when I somewhat transitioned in prison. I was a very talented athlete in spite of my knee problems and basketball was my outlet in prison from my gender dysphoria, the racial hatred, and the shame of being in prison with a 153 IQ, surrounded by 983 other human beings on my yard, very few with my education, gifts and the innate advantages of being white in America, but I hated my guts nonetheless. I broke my hand badly playing ball one night and the next day I borrowed a friend's tweezers, telling him I had a sliver. That sliver was being transsexual and I removed it for almost nine months, plucking my eyebrows, shaving my legs and finally finding freedom in prison. I wasn't forced by anything or anyone but gender dysphoria and stress. The bull->-bleeped-<- you hear about rape in prison is exactly that, bull->-bleeped-<-. I'd been bisexual for a long time, but was really becoming attracted to men only and ended up in a relationship with a really sweet, cute, but terribly misguided guy who wanted me to parole with him and transition all the way to SRS. Unfortunately, he was a meth cook and was going straight back to it because the money was so good, but I'd had enough of both drugs and prison and I had to say no. I had no means of continuing my transition with no job, nowhere to live and little hope of either, so I grew back my eyebrows and leg hair and straight back into my self loathing existence of being what I always was, nothing more than a male impersonator. Ironically, I'd almost found peace at 22, when I began to transition in 1977, but being a 'baby boomer' I was taught before anything else in my life, 'what will the neighbors think?' I didn't want to bring shame on my family, but I ended up in prison as a thief and junkie! Now, I'm 58, two days short of living 18 months full time, the happiest time of my life. I can describe events, but I can't really grieve over them. I've lost too much already to grieve anew. I've barely scratched the surface to you today, but maybe grieving is a luxury some of us women can't afford. I love HRT and what it's doing to my body and mind. I'm finally becoming on the outside what I've always, always been in my soul, a female. I think I have it so much better than I ever thought possible on July 13th, 2011, the day after my third suicide attempt. I stopped drinking that day, ordered progynon depot from In House, and vowed to be a woman or die. And someday I'll die, but I'll die as I was born in my heart, female.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
These three years have been the best of my entire life
ones I've been able to live without lying
and the only time I've had since the age of twelve
I haven't constantly thought about dying



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Chaos

Im sorry if i come off blunt but this is sometimes a good thing.Is there some guidebook that i have been missing that tells how we should/could/would be the perfect gender we always knew we were? Maybe im just different and idk if thats good or bad but aside from being male,i am a human being.who said making that transition would make one a better person? We all have those moments were we are disappointed in something,in ourselves or others but i never had this *high hope of being physically fit suddenly with everything i need mentally and emotionally,with a perfect relationship in tow* I am who i wanted to be BECAUSE i can finally be ME.even if thats abit over weight,single,with mental disorders (speaking of myself only) What pushs us to become what we do is confidence in who we are,less confidence in the opinions and words of others and a love for doing the right thing (aka smoking is bad for your health and other things) and that is a process,even as we were born.we didnt just pop out of the womb the way we wanted to be and its the same now.If you give up hope and just stop,what is left? I spent ALL of my life in very bad situations and had a very sucky life,just now transitioning after 36 years so i can understand the feeling of *loss* but for me,it IS like living again and i have the chance to either make it right or repeat it all over again and i refuse to relive my past life with the new chance i have.I have learned ALOT from my past,the kind of people that need to remain at a distance,i am more wise now in every aspect.you are MORE then you wanted to be,think about it.I too know the feeling of having opportunity's taken from me but now,i have more then before and i am finally happy on top of it.Yes i am a strong believer in *what doesnt kill us,makes us stronger* and another saying i like goes this way *a sword is tempered and beaten,sharpened into what it will become.a weapon of fast pace,defence and life but the process is painful and hot* i have lost 2 children,tried to commit suicide many times,OD'ed once and almost did die,mental breaks downs that led to rage,been raped,abused,addiction to many things,and so many other things.my life has NEVER been a happy one and even a curse in my eyes until i did finally transition (for me) it was like i was finally who i was supposed to be and the world around me finally came into tune.
All Thing's Come With A Price...
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Hideyoshi

I look back at my developing years as a male not with distress, but just as a different experience.  If I hadn't been born male, I wouldn't have ever gotten together with my boyfriend of three years. I wouldn't have the same friends, the same experiences... And that more frightens me than anything.  I guess I would have to go full time in order to Feel differently?
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Henna

I just read this thread, first time trying hurt too much, as I've been going through the same things in my mind. It does feel like I've killed myself emotionally, by waiting for 15 years. This is what the therapist also asked during first visit. I could have experienced a lot of stuff during those 15 years.

Aubrey, I dont know if it's any consolation, but I read sometime ago from a magazine that womens best years in life are from 35 to 70 year old. I've been thinking that a lot and I want to believe in to that quote.
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Emily Aster

I wish a transition could send me back to being 14 and restart this whole thing called life again, but I can't. What I do know is that the longer I wait, the more I wish I would have done it sooner. I'm about 5 years younger than you and haven't really started yet and I also get stuck on the idea that I'm going to be starting as this middle-aged woman and never getting the younger years, but ya know what? I'd rather start now than to never give it a shot. I have a lot of regrets in my life and not starting sooner on this is the one regret in my life that keeps building up over the years instead of just being a momentary thing. Just once I'd like to be able to say, "I did that", and not have to wonder about the what ifs.
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MadelineB

PROGRESS OF AN ARTIST OF SOME AGE

I am a work in progress.
I am the DaVinci of my own artform,
ever painting self-portraits
my soul to express.
It isn't the freshness of the paint
or the quality of the canvas that
  makes the mastery.
It is the discipline of practice
mixed with the light of experience
that makes the masterpiece,
not the raw power and genius of youth.
That's why the Mona Lisa hangs in the Louvre,
while the teenage sketches of a young Leonardo
are lost to time.
She would have been a different woman
staring back at us,
with none of the etheric beauty
of an androgyne soul finally at peace
with her femininity.
There is no going back.
Nor should there be.
The temptation to start over again and again
is the bane of any artist.
That is an itch I will not scratch
until this work is the best I can make it today.
Tomorrow I will be a new woman, with a new little girl inside.
Our best work is still ahead of us,
in these aged hands and timeless heart.
Tomorrow's canvas will paint itself.
So let me capture this light, this spirit, this day.
And carry no regret
for the passing of the light of yesterdays.
-MadelineB
March 6, 2013
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
~Maya Angelou

Personal Blog: Madeline's B-Hive
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auburnAubrey

Thanks everyone.  Very touching words and experiences.  I think one of the most painful memories, was that at around 12 or 13, I asked my parents to take me to therapy.  But I didn't want them in the room with me.  My mom spoke to the therapist and said she knew something was really bothering me, but didn't know what.  My mom... you all know what Hummels are?  Little figurines?  She had one that was a clown, with a tear coming down its face.  She bought that (and told me just a few years ago) because it reminded her of me.  Someone who laughs on the outside, but hurt so bad inside.

Anyway, it was tough for me to open up to my therapist.  I wanted to tell her that I was a girl.  This was around 1981.  There was no internet.  I was raised in an upper middle class area... I had no idea that there was anyone else like me.  I felt ashamed, and felt like something was wrong with me.  So, you know what I did?  I spent two years with that therapist, and never told her a single thing about my gender.  My mom told me last year, that when I decided to stop going, the therapist told her, "He's got something burried, but he doesn't want to talk about it.  Keep an eye on it.  It may be the usual kids angst, or something deeper."  She knew, but I wouldn't tell her.  I was so ashamed.  Of course, I wonder, what would have happened if I said something at 12 years old.  Before puberty kicked in.  I had the chance.  I did nothing with it.

So, on top of all of this, I do feel it's my own fault I am where I am.  I couldn't say a frickin word.

And I'm not sure for me, that it's better late than never.  I feel I had my opportunity, and lost it.  I've come to this point, yet I"m still not fulfilled.

I went through the whole thing yesterday with my therapist... I so wanted someone to tell me what I was.  I wanted someone to sit down, and confirm what I already knew.  I think even now, I still want someone to tell me what the heck to do about all this.

It's amazing that it's taken nearly 3 years of therapy to get to these thoughts and memories.  I built some pretty darn good walls!

And no, still haven't cried about it yet.  Work in progress I guess.  I'm just so scared of stopping all of this, only for those feelings to overwhelm me again as they always have, and realize that I again screwed myself.  But I'm telling you, as I am right now, I just don't feel like I belong to either gender... or anywhere on the gender scale.

I just want to run and hide.  Been a long time since I've felt that way, but I really do.
"To live both the yin and the yang, the male and the female, is a divine gift." ~ Me

"Know the masculine, but keep to the feminine, and become a watershed to the world". ~ The Tao Te Ching
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Carrie Liz

If it's any consolation, I did the exact same thing with the therapist that I was going to see as a teenager. And pretty much the whole time, even though Mom knew that there was something deeper going on that I wasn't saying anything about, and my gender dysphoria was completely consuming my life at that point, I also never said a single word about it in the three years that I was going there.

And hell, mine was even worse, because my mom actually read my journal at one point, and even confronted me about it, saying "look, if you want to be a female," and talked with the therapist about it, and I STILL wouldn't admit it, explaining it away with excuses. So, yeah, I must say, I too feel really bad about not saying anything about it while I was going to a therapist in high school. It just never seemed to occur to my young terrified head that they actually wanted to help me, and could have if I had just admitted it.
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tomthom

I don't look back in regret over not being female. yeah, I guess it kind of sucks, but I got to be a boy too. how many people can say they've had both? I didn't lose experience, I simply had a different one.
"You must see with eyes unclouded by hate. See the good in that which is evil, and the evil in that which is good. Pledge yourself to neither side, but vow instead to preserve the balance that exists between the two."
― Hayao Miyazaki
Practicality dominates me. I can be a bit harsh, but I mean well.
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Nero

Quote from: auburnAubrey on March 07, 2013, 01:23:11 PM
Thanks everyone.  Very touching words and experiences.  I think one of the most painful memories, was that at around 12 or 13, I asked my parents to take me to therapy.  But I didn't want them in the room with me.  My mom spoke to the therapist and said she knew something was really bothering me, but didn't know what.  My mom... you all know what Hummels are?  Little figurines?  She had one that was a clown, with a tear coming down its face.  She bought that (and told me just a few years ago) because it reminded her of me.  Someone who laughs on the outside, but hurt so bad inside.

Anyway, it was tough for me to open up to my therapist.  I wanted to tell her that I was a girl.  This was around 1981.  There was no internet.  I was raised in an upper middle class area... I had no idea that there was anyone else like me.  I felt ashamed, and felt like something was wrong with me.  So, you know what I did?  I spent two years with that therapist, and never told her a single thing about my gender.  My mom told me last year, that when I decided to stop going, the therapist told her, "He's got something burried, but he doesn't want to talk about it.  Keep an eye on it.  It may be the usual kids angst, or something deeper."  She knew, but I wouldn't tell her.  I was so ashamed.  Of course, I wonder, what would have happened if I said something at 12 years old.  Before puberty kicked in.  I had the chance.  I did nothing with it.

So, on top of all of this, I do feel it's my own fault I am where I am.  I couldn't say a frickin word.

And I'm not sure for me, that it's better late than never.  I feel I had my opportunity, and lost it.  I've come to this point, yet I"m still not fulfilled.

I went through the whole thing yesterday with my therapist... I so wanted someone to tell me what I was.  I wanted someone to sit down, and confirm what I already knew.  I think even now, I still want someone to tell me what the heck to do about all this.

It's amazing that it's taken nearly 3 years of therapy to get to these thoughts and memories.  I built some pretty darn good walls!

And no, still haven't cried about it yet.  Work in progress I guess.  I'm just so scared of stopping all of this, only for those feelings to overwhelm me again as they always have, and realize that I again screwed myself.  But I'm telling you, as I am right now, I just don't feel like I belong to either gender... or anywhere on the gender scale.

I just want to run and hide.  Been a long time since I've felt that way, but I really do.

You know sweetie, sometimes longing is so much more beautiful than having. These women who have the experiences you missed out on can never 'feel' them the way you do. They have no idea what they have. But you do. Most women will never realize how beautiful the experience is because they know nothing else. But you do.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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calico

Quote from: auburnAubrey on March 07, 2013, 01:23:11 PM
Thanks everyone.  Very touching words and experiences.  I think one of the most painful memories, was that at around 12 or 13, I asked my parents to take me to therapy.  But I didn't want them in the room with me.  My mom spoke to the therapist and said she knew something was really bothering me, but didn't know what.  My mom... you all know what Hummels are?  Little figurines?  She had one that was a clown, with a tear coming down its face.  She bought that (and told me just a few years ago) because it reminded her of me.  Someone who laughs on the outside, but hurt so bad inside.

Anyway, it was tough for me to open up to my therapist.  I wanted to tell her that I was a girl.  This was around 1981.  There was no internet.  I was raised in an upper middle class area... I had no idea that there was anyone else like me.  I felt ashamed, and felt like something was wrong with me.  So, you know what I did?  I spent two years with that therapist, and never told her a single thing about my gender.  My mom told me last year, that when I decided to stop going, the therapist told her, "He's got something burried, but he doesn't want to talk about it.  Keep an eye on it.  It may be the usual kids angst, or something deeper."  She knew, but I wouldn't tell her.  I was so ashamed.  Of course, I wonder, what would have happened if I said something at 12 years old.  Before puberty kicked in.  I had the chance.  I did nothing with it.

So, on top of all of this, I do feel it's my own fault I am where I am.  I couldn't say a frickin word.

And I'm not sure for me, that it's better late than never.  I feel I had my opportunity, and lost it.  I've come to this point, yet I"m still not fulfilled.

I went through the whole thing yesterday with my therapist... I so wanted someone to tell me what I was.  I wanted someone to sit down, and confirm what I already knew.  I think even now, I still want someone to tell me what the heck to do about all this.

It's amazing that it's taken nearly 3 years of therapy to get to these thoughts and memories.  I built some pretty darn good walls!

And no, still haven't cried about it yet.  Work in progress I guess.  I'm just so scared of stopping all of this, only for those feelings to overwhelm me again as they always have, and realize that I again screwed myself.  But I'm telling you, as I am right now, I just don't feel like I belong to either gender... or anywhere on the gender scale.

I just want to run and hide.  Been a long time since I've felt that way, but I really do.

So many of these words I can relate to,
when I didnt have the net there for me to research, no one to relate,  I felt ashamed for having the thoughts, so I never told anyone even when a therapist back then asked me if I wish I were a girl, or if I felt like I was a girl. I lied. because back then I thought if I told them yes, I would have been locked up for sure as surely that wasnt normal, and they may have thought I was nuts.
I almost want to cry right now reading all this again, as it hits me so hard to how much I can relate, if you were here I would offer you a hug if you wanted one, this road we journey is necer easy and I wish I didnt have to experience it, I know what people say that being in both gives a unique perspective, but I dont care about that, I would give it all up to have not had to been like this.
So by reading your words I feel like I get it, oh so much, but we cant change that or our situation's all we can do is keep walking forward one step at a time, and like I said before you have to ask yourself the question, what is hapiness worth?
I want to say so much morre but I have to get  up in 4 hours so I leave you with my thoughts for what they are and remember you are not alone.....
"To be one's self, and unafraid whether right or wrong, is more admirable than the easy cowardice of surrender to conformity."― Irving Wallace  "Before you can be anything, you have to be yourself. That's the hardest thing to find." -  E.L. Konigsburg
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Michelle G

Amazing how our self preservation systems are so similar! Our situations seem to mirror others like ourselves...we out foxed the professionals to save ourselves, I always thought I was all alone back when I was ten years old, I knew without question who I was, but also at such a young age I was smart enough to realize the path of least resistance was to just pretend to be the boy my parents, teachers and friends wanted to see.

  I guess I raised enough concerns that my parents set up an appointment for a therapist to talk with me, with all the lack of knowledge they had in the mid 60's all the guy could do was ask what would make me happy....so I just said what any "boy" that age would say "I want a minibike" doc sez "he is perfectly normal" yea right!!

I do get a "retroactive" comfort knowing I wasnt alone back then and it wasn't just me with these feelings.

  I just want to hug each and every one of my sisters here in sympathy and understanding....we are all extraordinary people!
Just a "California Girl" trying to enjoy each sunny day
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