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Just sent an email to my mom...

Started by Anna++, March 10, 2013, 09:55:48 AM

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GendrKweer

Although I've been on HRT for a few years and got SRS surgery in August last year, I only fully came out to my 80 year old mother this past christmas (although she's been calling me her daughter for a long time because although I like being andro, I'm definitely on the female side of things)... I not only came out about being trans and getting the surgery, I also came out (along with my lovely wife) to being in a long-term poly relationship with a girl my mother has met but never realized what she was to us... lol! That was a fun conversation, aided by a box of wine. But she took it kinda like this: lots of questions, but thankfully, with less blaming other factors and more just trying to understand. The first point was a big one: personal safety. Undoubtedly trans people are at a far higher risk of personal harm than even just LGB people... but I also reminded her that a lot of those stats are a bit skewed by the sadly large amount of trans women working as escorts due to necessity (true stat, look it up), plus I don't really hang out in nightspots after midnight anymore, so that limits my risk. I also reminded her the suicide rate of untreated transpeople is also very high, so... also, why would I put myself into such danger without feeling it being the only only thing that would help me? She understood those points well, I thought, so maybe you can try them on your momma. Good luck.... but it sounds promising so far.
Blessings,

D

Born: Aug 2, 2012, one of Dr Suporn's grrls.
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Anna++

Thanks GendrKweer.  She's invited herself over for dinner tonight, so I'll keep your points in mind while talking to her.
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Misato

Good luck Anna.  Stay positive!

You deserve to be you, and I must say I think you're handling yourself well overall.   You're coming off as patient and approachable, I also liked this in particular:

Quote from: Anna Michele on March 11, 2013, 07:12:07 AM
And yes, I was happy with my ex-girlfriends.  Did you notice that people kept saying girlfriend-2 was a "female me" and then I got clingy and set up a "living through her" situation?  Of course I was happy, but I was also using her as an outlet.  I'm under the impression that dating is really supposed to be about who you want to be with, and not who you want to be.

First, good point on what dating should be.  Second I do think it's a good story to help illustrate how you're just trying to go home.

I also liked the overall point of how you avoided things that were deemed for girls because you didn't want to let people clue into what was going on inside you.  I did the same thing when I was younger.  So yeah, it isn't silly, if anything the story of avoiding the pajamas shows how much you were paying attention to details!

Again, best of luck!
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spring0721

Good luck at dinner Anna, I hope it goes well. I'm glad your mom is asking questions, maybe she's at least trying hard to understand.  Just don't give up on yourself, your mom will be there for you!
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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Anna++

Well, that was a major blow to my self confidence.

First, she walked me through childbirth and asked me why I would ever want to go through that.  Then she kept asking me probing questions into my sexuality that made me feel uncomfortable and put my guard up.  At one point she encouraged me to explore religion instead, and started saying "I'll only ever see you as my son.  I don't think I could ever accept... don't get a sex change".

She picked apart my personality and said "well, that's just the kind of GUY you are.  And there's nothing wrong with that"  then she suggested I worry about taking care of others instead of myself, and that maybe I should consider getting an animal.

What else...
- Poor treatment of women in third world countries came up
- What would the rest of the family say?
- Don't rush into anything (even if it's been on my mind for 12 years and I've been doing serious research for the last 3 or 4)
- Everybody is curious about what it's like to be the other gender
- Don't get a sex change (she said that a couple of times...)
- Getting sick with Crohn's disease in high school made me think this way
- I should get a girlfriend

I have a hard time explaining myself when my guard is up, and when it was obvious that she wasn't going to be as supportive as I hoped I started just going along with what she was saying hoping that the conversation would end and that she would go home.  The only positive thing I got out of it is her agreement that talking about problems is good and that I shouldn't keep them bottled up.

Blah.
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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Sara Thomas

I'm hesitant to give advice... just because* - But maybe if you made it clear to your mom that your mind is made up (assuming it is), and that you fully intend to transition, and that all giving you grief will accomplish is grief - It won't sway your intentions.

?

My Very Best - Sadie

* advice to anyone about anything serious - what the hell do i know about what's going on in their lives?
I ain't scared... I just don't want to mess up my hair.
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Misato

Oh that's rough.  Have things look relatively good then take a step back like that.  Good you realized you had your guard up though.  Probably helped things go better than they might have otherwise gone.

My mom did several bounces back and forth, but she's been coming round. 

It's hard if not impossible to take care of others when you're carrying this burden.

You took a major step. Could have gone better but the understanding that you should be talking about this, I think, is indeed a very positive note.

You noticed your guard was up.  You didn't let things get worse.  And now you have some things to react to with the lines of communication still open.  There is a lot of good here and you did well in a difficult situation.  Oh, you didn't abandon your transition either as evidenced by coming back here. That's good too!

Keep your chin up girl!  *Hugs*. It's tough, but I beleive in you!
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Anna++

Yes, I have made up my mind.  And I intend on keeping my consultation-appointment with my local endocrinologist in two weeks (although this may make me wait to start hormones until after our family vacation in early-May).  I think I need to regroup before I can try talking about this with my parents again.

Thanks for the support Sadie and Paige.  I really appreciate it right now :)
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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spring0721

Don't give up Anna Michelle! I hope your mom will turn around. Let her have her little 'freak out'....then maybe once she sees how happy you are. She'll get on board especially once she realizes nothing will sway you. Good luck at your appointment.
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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Anna++

I've come too far over the last few months to give up now.  This is a setback, but I feel a bit better after getting some sleep...  the "I could never accept you" comment still stings a bit :(
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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GendrKweer

You can also explain to her that hormone therapy IS reversible in the first few/six months....this is important because quite a few people in our situation are not actually transgender, but instead have built up images/fetishized the opposite sex, etc, and once they start HRT and the testosterone (poison:) is reduced in their bodies, they realize whoa, I don't feel like I'm a woman anymore. However, for the rest of us, the feeling of joining our correct gender is amplified by HRT, so we keep going. It isn't like you'll go out and get the ahem chop next week... you'd be on HRT for a year or two most likely, with plenty of opportunities to stop. Maybe that'll make her feel better to hear?
Blessings,

D

Born: Aug 2, 2012, one of Dr Suporn's grrls.
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Anna++

Right, and I definitely want to see how I feel without testosterone in my system.

Now to spend the rest of the day worrying if I fall into the "what if it's just a fetish?" category :P
Sometimes I blog things

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Heather

Quote from: Anna Michele on March 12, 2013, 07:37:40 AM
I've come too far over the last few months to give up now.  This is a setback, but I feel a bit better after getting some sleep...  the "I could never accept you" comment still stings a bit :(
I don't want to get you down but it is probably going to get worse before it gets better. At least that was the way it was in my situation. I've heard it all from my mom ranging from your going to hell to you will make an ugly woman oh and the I'll never accept you. But eventually when she seen I wasn't backing down she started to come around. She still not the point I would like but shes coming along. I guess the point I'm trying to make just because it seems bad now doesn't mean it will stay that way. Just give her time to come to grips with this she hurting right now and probably will be for a while so just let her vent and try not to take anything she says to personal. 
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Anna++

It's good to hear that things might eventually get better!  I'll keep my fingers crossed...  I'm an atheist, so the hell argument won't work on me :)

I wonder if I can try to use math / statistics to sway her...
Transitioning would give me peace of mind, even if I end up not liking it and backing off after a few months I would still know what it's like.  Expected value: some positive number.
Not transitioning would cause me to spend the rest of my life knowing that I got this close but didn't do it.  Expected value: some big negative number.
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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Heather

Quote from: Anna Michele on March 12, 2013, 04:08:30 PM
It's good to hear that things might eventually get better!  I'll keep my fingers crossed...  I'm an atheist, so the hell argument won't work on me :)


Yeah it don't work on me ether.  :laugh:
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Anna++

Apparently my mom had a slow day at work, so she did more research and read about how important it is for parents to be supportive.  She called me today to say that she'll always love me, but that she doesn't know if she's mentally strong enough to go through my transition.  So that's progress since yesterday.
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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MaidofOrleans

My mom responded initially the same way. Prepare for some rough patches but if you two pull through its for the better. Me and my mom are closer now and she tries her best to do mother daughter things with me.
"For transpeople, using the right pronoun is NOT simply a 'political correctness' issue. It's core to the entire struggle transpeople go through. Using the wrong pronoun means 'I don't recognize you as who you are.' It means 'I think you're confused, delusional, or mentally I'll.'. It means 'you're not important enough for me to acknowledge your struggle.'"
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Anna++

I've got my fingers crossed on pulling through... the mother-daughter things would be great if she can figure out how to accept me.

... and now she's on a matchmaking site in my name, forwarding me profiles of girls I should try to talk to.  I still think that I need to be worrying about me right now, without the extra burden of learning about somebody else.
Sometimes I blog things

Of course I'm sane.  When trees start talking to me, I don't talk back.



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spring0721

Anna,

I agree with you completely....the last thing you need right now is a girlfriend. You need to focus on YOU right now. I think your mom may just be 'grasping at straws' either trying to divert your focus somehow, or trying to make you happy with a girlfriend so you won't feel the 'need' to continue on with this.  if I were you, i'd just say,'mom, I appreciate the thought, but I'm just not interested right now.' I don't know, but maybe it could help to spend a little extra time with your mom so she doesn't feel like she's 'losing you'.  I'm still hoping all goes well for you:)
People are people, treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy that you want to receive.
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kira21 ♡♡♡

Yeah, a girlfriend is the last thing that you need atm. I chucked when I read that, because its a silly response, but I suppose fairly natural for a person in her shoes. :-)