(Graphic content) Photos of SRS performed by Dr. Suporn Watanyusakul in Thailand

[Keira]

Couldn't you get any personal loan or line of credit from the bank, KarenLyn?
Saving the cost of SRS would be hard for everybody (harder for some), just like paying a car cash would be hard; that's why most get loans for cars.

[KarenLyn]

I may have to do that to get the IRS off my back. Ex wives can do wonderful things to your finances. Unfortunately, until I can force the sale of the house, I won't be taking out any loans.

Karen Lyn

[katia]

i'm so glad that i chose dr. bowers for my grs.  i'd go ballistic if my results turned out like this girl's. tsk tsk tsk

[Nero]

Umm... I really don't mean to be rude, but that box was downright scary.
And I really couldn't tell, but it looked like there was some strange stuff going on down there.
That does not look natural.

[LynnER]

TO each there own.  Im a fan of Bowers work more so than any of the other NA surgoens...  But thats me personaly and after much research...  sometimes its better to spend the extra and get the person you consider the best rather than try to save a buck or two.....  Id be affraid to travle to thiland for surgery... I dont think the cost is worth the risk.

[Christo]

whooaa  don't look good.   sorry for that lady.

[Lin]

... I mean, most sugeons go for what it is considered normal in a genetic female (4 1/2 to 5 inches). 

That's ture. My surgeon (Dr.Brassard) also told me to keep my dilation with a depth at around 5inches would be ok...

[Maud]

the gaping hole thing is what made me think hell no in respect to thai surgeons, for me it'll be bellringer or thomas, I've seen allot of their recent work and it's all excellent.

[Lin]

Now, regarding the photographs....I have to agree with Laura Eva, the results don't look anything like mine and I have only been post-op for five months; however,  I wonder how old the photographs are.. 

tink

Here I have to agree with you too, plus I've been only post-op for about 2 and half monthes (Dr.Brassard girl), but the results don't look anything like mine too...

... I really couldn't tell, but it looked like there was some strange stuff going on down there.
That does not look natural.

Ditto

Brassard is $16,000 US (a snip in more ways than one     !).

I cared soooo ABSOLUTELY about the cosmetics, sensitivity & orgasmic capability, and functionallity of my result ....

And wasn't dissapointed !

(and what is $4k, a month or two's savings ?  You don't price a "life changing" op in the way you would a new car ? .... and as to driving back home post-op, are you crazy ?? )

Laura x

I cant agree with you more at these points. Moreover, frankly I find Dr Brassard's price is very reasonable, not high at all. The latest price for GRS is around 16,000$ CA all included (travelling in town, meals, recovery clinic, the best set of dilators, which would cost some 600$, and etc.)

[Thundra]

I cant agree with you more at these points. Moreover, frankly I find Dr Brassard's price is very reasonable, not high at all. The latest price for GRS is around 16,000$ CA all included (travelling in town, meals, recovery clinic, the best set of dilators, which would cost some 600$, and etc.)

Well, there is why there are only an estimated 20 to 30K post-op women in the world. The average person cannot save up 16K, and if they did, it would take them ten years or more.

[Keira]

Thundra,
Since almost everybody I know, even on very low salary, can
buy a low end car, not cash, but credit exists for a reason,
a totally disagree on the fact that its unaffordable to most.

Of course, on minimum wage, banks will not lend you 16K, ever.

But, the working poor, with a higher salary (minimum wage is not working poor, its below subsistence poor, it is a US embarassement); if they take care of their credit, they can get a 16K loan much quicker than 10 years.

My best friend had a salary of 25K (his wife didn't work and he's got a 5 year old child) and he financed a 20K car. He already owed 10K in student loans and had a 5K line of credit open, and they still gave him the money. He always pays his bills on time and has a very tight budget; to save, and keep your credit, you need to budget.

[Kimberly]

to save, and keep your credit, you need to budget.

An you need to hope nothing goes wrong. EVERY <EXPLETIVE> winter/Christmas time for the last... meh I don't know any more. Yeah, we can tell that it is near Christmas time because we can't put milk in the refrigerator. ^*shrug* Meh, don't mind me I am bitter.

^*sigh* But more to the point of why I decided to post...

But when it comes right down to it, I don't care what I will look like down there as long as it's done.

I am afraid I am in the exact same boat, and I more than sympathize...

[Maud]

Ell ... just Google "Anne Lawrence" .... gives you a broad overview of what SRS results look like

Tink, Kristi, Yvonne and I think Keira agree with me as to how "horrible" the posted result looks 
Laura x

i googled it and tried at least 7 links and they didn't return a single photo.
telling me to google something is not the same as providing a link. as for Tink agreeing with you, does that mean that she posted the site with the intention of trashing the patient later? not very ethical, considering the size and importance of this site. for all we know, that girl could be a member here.

until you can show an actual link, which you have evaded so far, i think you should back off on this girl. god, this is just getting vicious.

http://www.annelawrence.com/brassard0905.html

also steph's result is in the wiki.

[Maud]

the thing that kills suporn's result is the way the vaginal entrance sits under the vagina and looks like a big gaping hole, it's just not natural looking in any way shape or form, brassard's results don't look as close to a textbook vulva but there's allot of natural variation and IMO his results don't jump out as trans whereas suporn's does.

[Keira]

Kimberly,
I wasn't talking about your specific case.

Of course, someone on the edge, like my friend, if something happens,
its a hard knock and can take several years to recover. In his case, he changed job because he couldn't work in one field for medical reason and lost 10K in salary, the same year he had a heart infection!

But, I've seen plenty of people complaining they can't make ends meet and when we look the money going in and out (the one they told about...), it should work; budgeting takes a lot of discipline and not everybody's want to have to think if they've got money to buy a sack of chips this week/month... His budget was that tight, most people have a bit more leway than that.

But, in our case, since SRS is so crucial, we should have an strong motivation to be frugal; yet that's not what I see from TS acquaintances. Yet they're the first to complain about SRS costs!!

[Maud]

I'm not into women so i don't particularly see that, tbh it grosses me out a bit.

[Nero]

I am into women, and it grosses me out. (no offense to the poor lady) Hope it looks different as it heals more.

[Nero]

You're right, Gina. It is very important to be honest with your info about any given surgeon. Nobody wants to hurt anybody's feelings, but women who have SRS have to live with the results for the rest of their lives. For that reason, it's best that as much information as possible on a surgeon is out there (not just the good results), so these women can make informed decisions.

[Nero]

hmmm see what you're saying. My issue with the Suporn result is there seems to be something 'extra' going on. Like we're seeing way more than we should be seeing. But it may be that it isn't quite healed yet or something.

edit: Come to think of it, there is quite a variety in natal vaginas. The Suporn result may look like some natal vaginas after punching out a couple dozen kids or so.

[Keira]

More complex, in surgery, means more risk.
Complexity increases risk, That's how it is for everything.

If people that go to Suporn are open to that risk and
go to him willingly, no problems. People are free to take as much
risk as they want in their lives.

If people are totally blind
to the risk and just go there to save money or for esthetics reasons, I hope for their sake they get the good result or they'll be shocked.

As I said, I'd prefer 100% of being slightly off esthetically (with the accent on slight), but knowing exactly what I'm going to get.
than having a 90% chance of getting a possibly better esthetically (which is highly arguable) and a 10% of chance of getting who knows what.