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period or just kids?

Started by Natkat, February 18, 2012, 05:54:33 AM

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kathy bottoms

Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 21, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
I'm not so sure that falling in love, having a baby, nursing an infant and multiple climactic orgasms are experiences all women share. Some women are barren. other's have endometriosis, some women just have miscarriages (which are horrible) and some women just don't choose to nurse. What makes a woman? IDK. But I don't think it is the ability to have a period. Of course, go to any comment section where someone bashes transwomen and they will say they can't have babies; they are not women. That is the number one argument. I don't know what a woman is, but I know one when I see her.

You're correct Joanna.  I should have said it's my personal view of what I would want to experience as a complete woman.  I have two older sisters, and one of them could never concieve, while the other miscarried three times at around three months, and even with that she did carry three more to full term.  Then the wife of one of my four brothers had a similar problem concieving and only got pregnant after they had given up hope. 

I can't imagine the pain and guilt they all felt.  And yet I'd accept everything fate could send my way.

Oh, I just saw your ticker, and it seems I missed seeing that you started HRT 17 days ago.  Congratulations. 

Kathy

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Joanna Dark

Thanks. Sorry I am a little bit pissy at times so if my reply came across as mean I didn't mean too.
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Cassandra Hyacinth

Potentially unpopular opinion time: as much as I dislike not having a vulva, I'm extremely grateful for the fact that I'll never menstruate or give birth.
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kathy bottoms

Quote from: Joanna Dark on March 21, 2013, 09:49:43 PM
Thanks. Sorry I am a little bit pissy at times so if my reply came across as mean I didn't mean too.

I though you were just being honest.  Truth and honesty is what this forum is all about.

Hugs.  Kathy
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Kelly J. P.

 I'm pretty fine with not having a period. While it's an experience that I cannot have, that I would have had if I were born correctly, I don't believe I'm worse off for it - I still pay my dues to Pain in spades. It's for more or less the same reason; that is, the privilege of being able to live as female, and I don't think that the fact that the pain I experience is any less valuable for being purely emotional. If anything, it is more profound than the pain of a period, and it is certainly felt more often.

It's the fact that I'm not what I'd like to be, and I that I am not what I believe myself to be in any place other than between my ears. My body is incomplete, and it always will be. To add to this my opinions on how I appear to others compounds my sadness, and how I feel about how I don't or can't relate properly relate to people compounds it again.

I don't believe that I would have felt all this if I had been born, raised, and socialized correctly. However, my life must take the path that it takes, and I must make the choices I make in order to make the best out of that path. A part of this is realizing that we all have our individual struggles, and while I may not have one that I would have in common with much of the world, I do have some that give me commonality to a small part of the world - our own community, and kind.

This fellowship probably goes unnoticed, a lot of the time, especially given the nature of trans people. With the ideal being to have "trans" be a part of the past - a detail - we probably forget that it's a very unique experience that should help tie us together.  We need to be able to support each other in the world, and frankly, I think it's a shame that there is pressure to be stealth. It is a practical solution to make life easier in the world we live in today, but I don't believe it's a very wise choice because of how it affects those who will life their lives in the world of the years to come.

I hope that we can eventually become proud of what we are, and the fact that it makes us unique, and gives us a very special perspective. It comes with its own set of challenges, for sure, but the world will open up to us if we let it. For many, the world has some use for more trans pioneers, but the day of unawareness of the trans condition is coming to a close. I'm not sure that the world will embrace us for some time, but acceptance is right around the proverbial corner.

In order to reach out for it, we need to first reach into ourselves. In order for the world to be proud of us, we need to first be proud of ourselves.

There is a lot to be proud of, for those of us who live this fantastic tragedy. So long as we can keep our chins up, find or hold onto our happiness, accept and be proud of who and what we are, and be proud of how we live our lives, our pride is justified. I don't believe that such a person would need a period for the sake of validation, and I don't believe that such a person would want to unnecessarily add to the challenge that their life offers already.

I am what I am, and I don't regret what I am. I'm not upset about not having periods, because I am proud to be trans. Perhaps my pride is present to spite the difficulties that that aspect of my nature brings with it, but it is also at least in part due to the fact that I still exist, despite those challenges, that I still chase after happiness despite all the sadness that those challenges bring, and that I can be happy and at peace with what I am, in spite of words and thoughts that attempt to tempt me otherwise.

These feelings, of course, transcend the topic of periods. I can be happy with all that I have, and all that I don't have. I will change what I can, and I will embrace what I can't. What a person can't change is a part of what makes them unique - the other part is how they deal with it. For the sake of health and sanity, I hope that everyone can, in time, learn to love themselves for all of what they are, and for all of what they aren't, because those are the things make that person who they are. To be able to love oneself, perfectly, is to be at peace.

And such a person does not need to add or take away from their suffering to be any happier than they already are.
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kathy bottoms

Quote from: Kelly J. P. on March 22, 2013, 01:46:30 AM
........  I don't think that the fact that the pain I experience is any less valuable for being purely emotional. If anything, it is more profound than the pain of a period, and it is certainly felt more often.

These feelings, of course, transcend the topic of periods. I can be happy with all that I have, and all that I don't have. I will change what I can, and I will embrace what I can't. What a person can't change is a part of what makes them unique - the other part is how they deal with it. For the sake of health and sanity, I hope that everyone can, in time, learn to love themselves for all of what they are, and for all of what they aren't, because those are the things make that person who they are. To be able to love oneself, perfectly, is to be at peace.

And such a person does not need to add or take away from their suffering to be any happier than they already are.

Kelly:  I quoted these parts of your post because they meant the most to me.  But I cried while reading each paragraph, and you said it all.  I don't want to expand on it, other than this little statement.

When you described the profound nature of our pain it immediately made me mourn those who are no longer with us.  Those who suffered all the profound pain they could stand.  No, a period doesn't compare to this.


But to go on.  I still haven't been able to deal with never being the girl and woman I describe.  There will come a time to bury the life that never was, and to have the peace that follows.   I have to move past this part of my life because I no longer want to cover up the pain that lurks inside, and it darkens whatever joy I have every day.  I accept myself, but I still haven't accepted what I wasn't.

For now life goes on, I'll smile about what I have, and look forward to so much more.  And then there's the special joy of holding, caring for, and expressing love for my grandson.  Even if my son and daughter in law don't really understand what's happened to me,  they still accept me as their childs grandfather (kind of, and for now ).  After all, they will never accept me as another grandmother to their little boy.   :)

Oh yes, I'll take it just the way it is because it's me.  But do I really love myself yet?  I don't know.

Love
Kathy

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Joanna Dark

That was beautiful Kelly. If there was a Post of the Year award, you'd win it.
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Nero

Quote from: Cassandra Hyacinth on March 21, 2013, 10:03:54 PM
Potentially unpopular opinion time: as much as I dislike not having a vulva, I'm extremely grateful for the fact that I'll never menstruate or give birth.

And time for another really unpopular opinion: Sometimes I actually miss my period.  :o
There, I said it. lol
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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