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detransition - 3 years full time as a woman, the unhappiest years of my life

Started by unpassable, March 31, 2013, 04:13:32 PM

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Sarah Louise

Luckily your case does not represent everyone.

I agree the decision to transition needs careful thought, it is not to be taken lightly. 

My decision to transition was not a disaster, sure I lost people in my life, I had cases where I was "outed".  I experienced problems but the total and final result was I'm Happier.

I'm not perfect, I'll never win a beauty contest, but I'm not the ugliest person around either.

I respect your opinion, it was your life and it didn't work out.  I'm sorry about that.  Truly sorry.
Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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StellaB

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 08:49:27 AM
To StellaB: I don't put blame on others but I am mostly upset at my therapists and surgeon for giving me false expectations. For instance, my surgeon should have warned me beforehand that despite all the surgical procedures, my face was going to remain grossly masculine. I'm fine with the fact that I am trans, really, I have no qualms of being a genetic female, I just wanted to move through the world unmolested.


Nobody gets through life unmolested. Seriously. Idiots are part of human evolution so we (hopefully) don't die out from our own stupidity.

You claim that you don't blame your therapists and doctors but yet you're still upset at them for what they did. You use the phrase 'should have'. If you don't blame then, then surely we have a glass half empty half full situation here, don't you think?

I try to avoid 'should have' in my thinking and vocabulary. I have more than my fair share of disappointments, setbacks and failures from trying to do stuff which turned out too difficult for me to ever want to attempt to do stuff which is impossible.

Therefore I can't really say I feel for you, because pity is such a pathetic emotion which involves a similar phrase 'I would have done x in your situation'.

I can't because I feel I've been there in your shoes, being unpassable, angry and upset at people who I held responsible, hating the world, hating myself, hating people, consumed by my own anger, and resentment, and hurt.

This.

I can't help but wonder whether this is the actual issue here.

You see it doesn't matter what you look like, if you're unhappy with yourself, angry, resentful, uncomfortable, you could look like Pamela Anderson but if you have all that going on inside people will pick up on it and you will start attracting problems to you.

Have you read the Qabala by Alasteir Crowleigh? I have. It's about magic, witchcraft and spells. All these three things rely on your ability to project emotion and energy out towards a target. The basic principle is that what you project out comes back to you. Always.

This is something you don't have to take my word for, but something you can try and see it for yourself. A lot of people pick up on 'vibes'. Your thoughts, feelings and emotions influence how you look and behave - facial expression, body posture, movements, body language.

The people who point and s->-bleeped-<- and call out rude names and such, they pick up on it. It's like a dog, they sense and pick up on weakness. Anger and resentment are great for projecting out weakness in energy and emotion. Fear is even better.

Some have asked you to post a photo. You haven't. I guess it's something which could be quite scary for you, posting an image of yourself which you're not happy with on a message board for strangers to look at.

I don't need to see a photo. I have enough of your words to sense (or guess if you prefer) what could be going through your head right now. Not trying to second guess you, or anything like that. But after twenty or so years in theatre I'm using my ability to build a character or an image of someone from words. I could be wrong, I could be wide of the mark, you see I'm not you. Don't know you from Adam (or Eve if you prefer).

But see, some stuff here I don't understand. What's it like to have such strong feelings and emotions for people who are no longer in your life, who are very unlikely to be thinking about you right now, and who might not even remember you?

Where's the payoff? What is this giving you? What do you get out of it?

From what I can see, it's not giving you happiness, or comfort, and judging by the title you gave to this thread I don't think it's left you with any positive memories either, has it?

What are all these strings and attachments to the past giving you? Why am I getting the feeling that you're walking round with this stuff in your head like cherished memories? Are you an emotional masochist or something?

Please... you don't have to respond or even answer these questions. I'm just adding this stuff to the thread as stuff for you to think about, and consider.

I actually think you're doing the right thing by coming here, logging in and taking part in the thread. It doesn't matter if you don't work, or go out much, or whatever, just as long as you have access to a computer and find your way here. You're reaching out and developing a support network. Hopefully you'll make a few friends.

I'll assume you'll figure it out in your own time, and move on when you're ready.

Just wanted to thank you for acknowledging my post.

Take care of yourself.
"The truth within me is more than the reality which surrounds me."
Constantin Stanislavski

Mistakes not only provide opportunities for learning but also make good stories.
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unpassable

Quote from: kkut on April 03, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
I think you're doing it in an irresponsible way. Do you see my point? You have been snippy and argumentative with people who are trying to support and help you. There are people seeking support here on these very issues, this is NOT helpful to them IMO.

I'm not suggesting people not discuss the cons of these decisions, to the contrary. There was a young gal who recently discussed her FFS regret, but she did so responsibly and didn't argue with people and tell them they just don't get it. How can we get it? You're making contradicting statements and aren't willing to help us understand your situation.

We're on page four now, what do you want to achieve from this point forward?

I am not being snippy or argumentative, in fact, I thanked everyone many times. It's you that you are seeing contradictions where there aren't any. Plus, avoid using the pronoun "we" to include other people. There have been other people in this thread who have been more helpful and I don't want to lump them together with you when you use the pronoun "we".

You are seeing contradictions where there aren't any. I already made my point clear. My goal was to stress a few things and get more ideas. I got some ideas from people. Also, I don't understand why we have to talk about beauty and beauty contests. Beauty is irrelevant here. Being passable and being pretty are two different things. I didn't want to be pretty, I don't care.

You are doing something very vile, you are putting the blame on me. Too convenient.

Anyway, I don't want to spoil the thread because there has been very valuable input.
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unpassable

Quote from: StellaB on April 03, 2013, 02:00:26 PM
Have you read the Qabala by Alasteir Crowleigh? I have. It's about magic, witchcraft and spells. All these three things rely on your ability to project emotion and energy out towards a target. The basic principle is that what you project out comes back to you. Always.


can you please elaborate on that? Do you really think this stuff works? I am not questioning you, I am just very curious if it really works. I mean, I can convince myself that I am Sharon Stone, but will people see me as such? Do you really think it's a matter of projection of emotions and fears and not physical problems? Please elaborate on that, I am very curious.

Thanks
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Sarah Louise

Nameless here for evermore!;  Merely this, and nothing more;
Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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StellaB

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 02:08:03 PM
can you please elaborate on that? Do you really think this stuff works? I am not questioning you, I am just very curious if it really works. I mean, I can convince myself that I am Sharon Stone, but will people see me as such? Do you really think it's a matter of projection of emotions and fears and not physical problems? Please elaborate on that, I am very curious.

Thanks

Hi Maria

No need to convince yourself that you're Sharon Stone, just being yourself is good enough.

Of course it works. How else do actors get to play characters in a movie?

I'll give you an example. Go onto Youtube and google Tom Hanks. Take a look at him in 'Forrest Gump'. Then take a look at him in 'The Green Mile', and then in 'Cast Away'.

These are not the best examples, because they're movies, and when actors appear in movies they tend to mainly focus on using their faces to project emotion. Cameras are a little bit different from the human eye. They catch everything, so directors have to pick out what they want the audience to see and feel through editing.

If you want better examples it's best to go to the theatre (or theater) and see live performances on stage. As there's no cameras the audience sees everything, so stage actors have to use not just their faces but their whole bodies to project out emotions and feelings.

When you talk to someone what they're saying only really accounts for maybe 20-30% of the information they're taking in. As much as 50% maybe even more of the information comes from what isn't being said, the non-verbal cues, the facial expression, body language, posture and so on.

Many trans people are uncomfortable about their appearance, but it's not just trans people. I'd guess that maybe the majority of people in this world aren't entirely happy with the way they look.

The cisgendered don't get the chance to modify or change their appearance like us. So okay, it didn't work out. It's not a problem.

So okay, you do the next best thing, you project. Just like an actor you create your own character and use your body language, facial expressions and posture to create your image.

You've already discussed dressing and clothing choices with others on this thread. Clothing is important and you know better than me what works and what doesn't.

But yes it does work. I'd even say projection is just as important as anything else.

The thing about people is that some are just creative. if given a chance they will create a problem even where one doesn't exist. But you can't create anything without having an opportunity.

Projection cuts down those opportunities for those people.

But hey, don't take my word for it. Try it for yourself.
"The truth within me is more than the reality which surrounds me."
Constantin Stanislavski

Mistakes not only provide opportunities for learning but also make good stories.
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sandrauk

I don't see any contradiction. I am in a similar place myself. Though I haven't had ffs. I don't post photo's here because I don't need to, I get all the answers I need, regards (not) passing, from the reactions of people when I'm out. Until I get a better response, going FT is out of the question so I put it out of my mind. I clearly don't pass as a female but at the same time I have seen changes which make me a weird male  but I don't have any trouble passing as male.

Maria, just a couple of thoughts.

What hormones (without dosages) are you on and have tried? I got similar effects to what you're describing with Premarin.

Perhaps you could think of passing in a different way. I see a local girl out and about, She doesn't pass but I would find it hard to imagine anyone bothering her. (think full makeup, dreadlocks, piercings). What she is doing is projecting attitude which is saying I'm happy, take it or leave it.

Personally I find it hard to do this, probably you do too, but if you can manage it then you "own " your look. Maybe being seen as a woman is unachievable for some, but I believe we can all look good

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unpassable

my surgeon (I never mentioned his name) never said the things that you said. He said I look wonderful (of course, he did my face) and that I should wear my hair in a way to cover it entirely, with bangs and hair covering the sides of my face. Really? After I spent all that money?

In any case, go ahead and contact my therapists and surgeons. Your threats are laughable.

My very best.

Quote from: kkut on April 03, 2013, 02:32:39 PM
I'm in good company, I'll be sure and say hello to your therapists and your surgeon Dr. O now that I'm over here in their camp.

Really folks?
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Heather

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
you have to see me in real life to determine how unpassable I am. If I am telling you that I am unpassable and I get read many times, why can't you just believe me?  Pictures can give you only an idea. In any case, my point is very clear. By bone structure I mean the face as well, when the face is too long and/or too wide or simply too big, too square that even several rounds of FFS don't feminize it enough. I don't understand why it is so difficult for you to conceive a face that doesn't work for a female and doesn't work for a male either. Sort of a hybrid face. Think about Bruce Jenner or Michael Jackson but much worse. A grossly masculine face altered by plastic surgery that still looks grossly masculine.

If I posted my pictures, some of you would suggest covering my face with hair like my doctor said (been there, done that, it can't be done in hot weather and makes you look stupid, at this point I would rather become muslim and go around with a burka), some of you would even go as far as saying that I don't look that bad, but you absolutely don't get a realistic picture from a photo. Have you ever been apartment hunting? I see all these apartment that look one way in pictures and then look completely different in real life. Posting pictures is pointless, really. I look bad, now I have to decide how to live a better life. Presenting androgynous seems the best solution for now, but, again, I can't think about spending the rest of my life hiding in baggy clothes and hats.

My biggest desire, though, is to stress that transition can make your gender dysphoria much worse. When I was a man, let's say my gender dysphoria was 100. Now that I have lived full time my gender dysphoria is 100000000000. Do you see my point? 
I'm sorry I hope I didn't offend you! You sound like this is really getting to you I just wanted to see a picture because most of us don't look as bad as we think we do and when you get positive feedback it Can make you feel so much better. :)
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Dahlia

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
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My biggest desire, though, is to stress that transition can make your gender dysphoria much worse. When I was a man, let's say my gender dysphoria was 100. Now that I have lived full time my gender dysphoria is 100000000000. Do you see my point? 

Yes, I see your point. Thing is: transitioning from male to female makes you SOCIALLY VERY, VERY, VERY AWARE OF YOURSELF AND VERY, VERY VULNERABLE......
Negative reactions will cut deeply through your soul, let alone several negative reactions a day.

Thing is: you make a very, very feminine impression on me,  being in 'contact' with reality and an ability to read one's face emotionally,  a certain awareness of other people's body language, facial expressions, the look in their eyes.

Thing is: most, if not almost all MTF used to be straight guys who  had the chance to build a healthy ego during their lives as passable, functional straight guys and don't develop this feminine awareness of other people's bodylanguage, reading one emotionally from facial expressions, etc. and never will.
They don't have this vulnerabilty due to their masculine personalities.

Resulting in the kind of MTF you describe:

Quote from: unpassable on April 01, 2013, 02:49:10 AM
or delusional. In fact, that is why I see many transsexuals walking around convinced that they pass when they don't and people are reading them as books. 

PLUS: your botched FFS must be unbearable disappointing, not only botched but not feminising as well... very hard to take.

I feel for you!
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unpassable

Thank you. You are one of the wisest and most helpful contributors. Thanks again.


Quote from: Dahlia on April 03, 2013, 03:50:44 PM
Yes, I see your point. Thing is: transitioning from male to female makes you SOCIALLY VERY, VERY, VERY AWARE OF YOURSELF AND VERY, VERY VULNERABLE.
Negative reactions will cut deeply through your soul, let alone several negative reactions a day.

Thing is: you make a very, very feminine impression on me,  being in 'contact' with reality and a certain awareness of other people's body language, facial expressions, the look in their eyes.

Thing is: most, if not almost all MTF used to be straight guys who  had the chance to built a healthy ego during their lives as passable, functional straight guys and don't develop feminine awareness of other's bodylanguage, facial expressions etc. and never will.
They don't have this vulnerabilty due to their masculine personalities.

Resulting in the kind of MTF you describe:

PLUS: your FFS 'results' must be unbearable disappointing, very hard to take.

I feel for you!
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Dahlia

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 04:17:11 PM
Thank you. You are one of the wisest and most helpful contributors. Thanks again.

Thank YOU Maria! For your courage to share your story and being so very honest!

I was modifying my post when you quoted me...but not all of my modified post came with it, sorry.
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unpassable

Quote from: Dahlia on April 03, 2013, 04:38:13 PM
Thank YOU Maria! For your courage to share your story and being so very honest!

I was modifying my post when you quoted me...but not all of my modified post came with it, sorry.

Dahlia, I sent you a private message. I don't  know if you received it since I am new using this
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MadelineB

I pass 100% of the time every day. As myself. And I am happy.
Back in male mode, I almost never passed. As myself. And I was much less happy. Thank God for the precious people who could look past presentation and appearance and still perceive the real me.
Since I transitioned, I have many more friends, better relationships, and am making progress in all the other areas of my life.
Because I pass every day. As my self. To the world. But most importantly to myself.
I get misgendered regularly- I am not so fortunate as to avoid that- but rarely with malice. And all become friendly as I help people understand and see me.

My gender therapist, a very wise woman, says when it comes to transition, "the proof is in the pudding".
It sounds like you have thoroughly tasted the pudding and it does not agree with you. So do yourself a favor, listen to your heart, and stop doing this if it isn't for you.

But please know, there are thousands of trans men trans women and gender queer and intersex individuals the world over who pass 100% of the time as themselves, and live wonderful happy lives because even though they are not mistaken for cisgender they are always taken for the people they are. I love my pudding so I keep eating it. Thats all.
History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again.
~Maya Angelou

Personal Blog: Madeline's B-Hive
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unpassable

Quote from: StellaB on April 03, 2013, 02:39:58 PM
Hi Maria

No need to convince yourself that you're Sharon Stone, just being yourself is good enough.

Of course it works. How else do actors get to play characters in a movie?

I'll give you an example. Go onto Youtube and google Tom Hanks. Take a look at him in 'Forrest Gump'. Then take a look at him in 'The Green Mile', and then in 'Cast Away'.



Stella B, thanks, but you talk about actors and theatre whereas I thought that your argument was of a more metaphysical nature, something regarding law of attraction. Am I mistaken?
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LilyoftheValley

Just my opinion... i believe if i ever detransitioned i fear i would live the rest of my life with regret for giving up and caving in to the pressures of the world and fate, on what i knew was truly right for me and supposed to be. But that is just my case, perhaps it is not yours.
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kelly_aus

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 01:20:34 PM
you have to see me in real life to determine how unpassable I am. If I am telling you that I am unpassable and I get read many times, why can't you just believe me?  Pictures can give you only an idea. In any case, my point is very clear. By bone structure I mean the face as well, when the face is too long and/or too wide or simply too big, too square that even several rounds of FFS don't feminize it enough. I don't understand why it is so difficult for you to conceive a face that doesn't work for a female and doesn't work for a male either. Sort of a hybrid face. Think about Bruce Jenner or Michael Jackson but much worse. A grossly masculine face altered by plastic surgery that still looks grossly masculine.

Why don't I believe your inability to pass is purely due to your physical appearance? Because I 'pass' and am accepted as a woman - and I still have a quite masculine body shape and, in my opinion, my face is also quite masculine. I've not had any surgery done on my face, nor do I plan to.

QuoteIf I posted my pictures, some of you would suggest covering my face with hair like my doctor said (been there, done that, it can't be done in hot weather and makes you look stupid, at this point I would rather become muslim and go around with a burka), some of you would even go as far as saying that I don't look that bad, but you absolutely don't get a realistic picture from a photo. Have you ever been apartment hunting? I see all these apartment that look one way in pictures and then look completely different in real life. Posting pictures is pointless, really. I look bad, now I have to decide how to live a better life. Presenting androgynous seems the best solution for now, but, again, I can't think about spending the rest of my life hiding in baggy clothes and hats.

I think your attitude and confidence have taken a battering..

QuoteMy biggest desire, though, is to stress that transition can make your gender dysphoria much worse. When I was a man, let's say my gender dysphoria was 100. Now that I have lived full time my gender dysphoria is 100000000000. Do you see my point? 

Transition is not for everyone. Sadly, in your case, it seems to have not been best choice. For me, it's been the best choice I've ever made. My therapist told me straight up that I would face possible ridicule and hatred - I'm still waiting for it.

And this is all I have to say in this thread, I'm out of here.
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StellaB

Quote from: unpassable on April 03, 2013, 06:43:08 PM
Stella B, thanks, but you talk about actors and theatre whereas I thought that your argument was of a more metaphysical nature, something regarding law of attraction. Am I mistaken?

No you're not. I just felt it simpler and more straightforward to use actors as a reference point. Let's face it all an actor is doing at the end of the day is pretending to be someone else for the purpose of entertainment.

But good actors, and I mean the ones we read and hear about are ones who've developed their 'draw' over a number of years and developed their awareness. Acting is quite spiritual in nature, because you have to learn how to control the vibes you give out, project, and influence other people's thinking and emotions. It takes power. especially if you're able to do it through a camera.

But when you stop and think about it, living is really all about adopting roles and 'acting'. We live in a complex arrangement of cycles, our habits, our relationships, even our thinking. And we project. And not just out in this plane of existence either.

That what is projected comes back to us. I strongly believe that there's a spiritual component in our lives and we are all following our own spiritual paths. And we develop and learn. My belief is that we are here only for a short period of time, we have numerous opportunities to develop and life is pretty much practice for what happens after we die.

But you know I also believe that we continue our relationships through the metaphysical. We all have a purpose, an objective that we're working towards.

Sometimes some of our energy comes back to us, usually without any warning and puts us into situations which puts us to the test. You can't quite put your finger on it, but life starts to fall apart. Relationships become rocky. People start treating you different.

So you think and you remember and you go back to trying things which worked previously. But they no longer work. The results are much different. The cycles in your life are breaking down and you have to come up with new ones.

Sometimes the new solutions work out, but sometimes not for very long and things start falling apart again. This often puts you right back into the situations you have tried so hard to avoid.

Usually in these situations there is one solution, just one solution, and you have to find it. If you don't find it that spiritual component will continue influencing your life and the situations will keep coming back, time after time, after time, after time.

I usually keep this to myself but since you asked I'll share it. The people around me know this psychic side of me, this spiritual side. It's come out to the fore more when I started transitioning and going full time.

However my psychic side is unreliable and countered by odd phases of GD, my clinical depression and social anxiety. I feel both gender dysphoria and depression are more complex than many people believe. Gender dysphoria isn't just a disconnect between mind and body but also between soul and body.

What further complicates it is that you have to 'transition' yourself internally in order to find peace, self-acceptance and happiness. This can - depending on your path and your life experience - be a complex process of learning and unlearning with various mistakes and misunderstandings, espeically if you get stuff from your subconscious wrong.

This is why I can't really give you any advice on what to do. I don't know you, all I have are a few postings on a thread on an Internet message board.

You are thousands of miles away sat at another computer stuck in what appears to be a major crossroads at your life.

It could be, if I take what you've written here at face value, that you've given transitioning your best shot but are coming to the point where you don't think you're ever going to be at peace with yourself or happy.

It could also be that you've rushed through your transition without picking up the necessary life skills and now you're stuck with the result and things are starting tio overwhelm you.

It could also be that you've hit a crisis, a time in your life when you just can't cope, and hindsight makes those experiences you had in life seem much easier than they were at the time. This could be caused by separation anxiety. You know, that time when you've got so far into your transition that you think back to everything you lost as a result. You miss it and remember, and have to go through more emotional fallout.

It could be just one of those 'spiritual' periods when you just can't see a way forward. You've tried all you can, you've thought about it, you might be feeling empty, feel that you can't do anything more, and you just can't see a way forward.

I've got to admit that I'm not so willing to make any suggestions here. I'd much rather try and keep to the more immediate and superficial topics, write about that, and maybe you might find some words in this thread which are going to inspire you to come up with your own answer to your situation.

What are the signs? How are people responding to you? Are you finding people are coming into your life unexplained? Any unexplained events in your life?

Projection can be a powerful thing. I've found that I can attract people into my life who are also good at projection and quite psychic. I've developed an ability to read faces and pick up on things. Little things, stuff most people don't usually notice. Some stay, some are only with me for some time.

But it can work both ways. A few people who have stayed over have told me of a spiritual presence in my bedroom. A ghost. I don't perceive ghosts, so I can only give these people the benefit of the doubt. I have my bedroom painted black because I'm also using it as a makeshift studio for photography and independent film projects. A couple of friends have described a man in a WWII bomber jacket who's unhappy and distressed and saying 'I can't get out'. They see him standing either by the window or in the playground outside looking up to my apartment (I live on the first floor).

I'm aware of the presence. I sometimes feel a chill wave coming down from the ceiling when I'm lying in bed at night. It's like a cold draught, but it comes from the ceiling. Often when I'm upset or angry stuff starts happening in my apartment. Doors slam. Things get misplaced. Water trickles from taps. I haven't worked out whether it's him, or it's me projecting and a straightforward case of psychokinesis. It could also be just my imagination and I forgot to turn the tap off completely or the door didn't really slam. I just imagined it.

But it's happened often enough in times of stress to make me consider psychokinesis as a possibility.

I generally do what i can to project out positive energy but it doesn't always work. It has always been like this, even before transitioning. I polarize people. Some people take to me instantly, and others develop an instant dislike. I'm told I project out positive energy. But I'm also aware that when I'm anxious and stressed I can also drain people.

Actually one of the most valuable lessons I learned when transitioning was learning how to 'shield'. In any situation I can retreat within myself so my exterior becomes nothing more than a shell. I stop projecting and just let other people's energy pass right through me. It's a skill you learn to protect yourself from spiritual harm, but it's pretty effective on people too.

I remember once going out somewhere and having to wear a somewhat tired, frizzy synthetic wig (I was saving up for a new one). I took a bus somewhere and got off at a stop where there were around ten or so teenage schoolkids on their way home from school; and a couple of other people.

The kids clocked me immediately and they let me have it. Nobody else at the bus stop intervened. It's like some mystical force had turned them to stone. I stood by the bus stop and just stared up the road at the approaching traffic. Out the corner of my eye I saw the kids move, heard the words, but nothing registered.

The bus came about ten minutes later. I got on the bus just blanking the kids beind me, and people staring. Then it died down and things returned to normal.

However to be able to shield you have to be at one with yourself. Anger and resentment weaken you, as does fear, and this is stuff that most people can pick up on. Shielding is useful also because other people can pick up on it and come to your assistance.

It takes practice, a fair amount of meditation and being able to hear your inner voice. That inner voice is that of your soul, and it should be able to speak louder than all the angry voices of those around you who are upset that you're not more like them.

"The truth within me is more than the reality which surrounds me."
Constantin Stanislavski

Mistakes not only provide opportunities for learning but also make good stories.
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Dahlia

Quote from: Kelly the Trans-Rebel on April 03, 2013, 07:03:50 PM

Transition is not for everyone. Sadly, in your case, it seems to have not been best choice. For me, it's been the best choice I've ever made. My therapist told me straight up that I would face possible ridicule and hatred - I'm still waiting for it.


Maria elaborates about her therapists and FFS surgeon, all of whom didn't tell her straight up etc.....
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Dahlia

Quote from: kkut on April 04, 2013, 09:15:42 AM
I think that pretty much wraps everything up, thank you.

It's kind of rude or cruel to brand someone a troll...(her reputation) especially if someone is very honest and has the courage to post her story to ask for support....isn't it?
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