TS Admirers - What makes 'em tick?

[kimberrrly]

  It didn't take me very long to give up on the ->-bleeped-<-s... I've met quite a few... The funniest thing said to me on a first date was, "I thought you'd be more......masculine." X-D   WTF?  Another was terribly disappointed to find out that HRT had made my pre-op genitalia non-functional.
  The one guy that I did develop feelings for wound up asking me, months into the relationship, if I could take a break from HRT so that I could penetrate him.

   ->-bleeped-<-s aren't straight.. They're bisexual men with unresolved sexuality issues. They all like to use the phrase, "I'm looking for a girl with something extra." They tend to be even more obsessed with sex than straight guys.

I know your stories are true, I knew them beforehand. So I always ask boys to the bone about their sexual preferences and desires. There are so called "->-bleeped-<-s' that are actually straight. They do excist. There are men that like us for who we are and not what we are. If I were post op, and a guy liked me, and did not have a problem with me beeing a TS, he will probably be indifferent about my genitalia too.  It's the one's that are obsessed with it (genitals) you have to be carefull with.
A lot of ->-bleeped-<-s do want to be penetrated or give you head, you have to filter them out beforehand to avoid dissapointment.
BUT there are guys that like a TS for very different reasons as well. You can't really generalize TS lovers/->-bleeped-<-s, just like you can't with TS woman themselves. There are always exceptions.

[kimberrrly]

No Nygeel, but you can pat them on the head, and say: "you're so cute when you think you have an opinion, now get in the kitchen and make me a sammich."

haha that will probably work

[kimberrrly]

They tend to be even more obsessed with sex than straight guys.

Maybe that's because they don't bother pretending when they deal with a TS. I had a date once in the very beginning before HRT...
the guy confessed his whole life to me after sex . All things he had done wrong etc. 

[Nygeel]

No Nygeel, but you can pat them on the head, and say: "you're so cute when you think you have an opinion, now get in the kitchen and make me a sammich."

Nuhhhhh I'm not that kind of a guy!

Cool fact: there are also ->-bleeped-<-s for trans guys. I would think they're harder to figure out than ->-bleeped-<-s interested in trans women. Also, are there ever any ->-bleeped-<-s into trans women that are women? Or has anybody experienced that?

[JessicaR]

Nygeel, if it makes U feel any better,

   Your cooties could get together with my cooties anytime 

[Nygeel]

Nygeel, if it makes U feel any better,

   Your cooties could get together with my cooties anytime 

*rubs chin* Rhode Island isn't THAT far away...

[Amazon D]

 
Quote from: JessicaR on Today at 12:59:46 pm
Nygeel, if it makes U feel any better,
   Your cooties could get together with my cooties anytime 


Posted by: Nygeel
*rubs chin* Rhode Island isn't THAT far away...



well you two better get together because valentines day is hours away 

[Lee]

Cootie cuddle puddle?

[JessicaR]

 While we battle with paddles on a noodle-eating poodle?

Don't get me started      

[VeryGnawty]

While we battle with paddles on a noodle-eating poodle?

That sounds like a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle bottle paddle battle.

[some ftm guy]

That sounds like a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle bottle paddle battle.

....that is all.

[VeryGnawty]

So if you hook up with a ->-bleeped-<-, does that mean that you have a ->-bleeped-<- chasing cootie racing cuddle puddle pacing fanny straddle rattle?

[Nygeel]

So if you hook up with a ->-bleeped-<-, does that mean that you have a ->-bleeped-<- chasing cootie racing cuddle puddle pacing fanny straddle rattle?

The answer is 42.

I've hooked up with too many ->-bleeped-<-s now that I think of it...and I haven't been active for over a year, longest time without.

[Elizabeth A.]

I'm a straight, cis woman, and my partner is FtM. Though I am not looking for any other partner right now (too in love, can't imagine it!), I sometimes wonder, if I did move on some day, would I prefer my next partner to be FtM or cis?

The truth is, now that I've been with my FtM SO, cismen, bless their hearts, and their energy (cuz I do love male energy), seem like the biggest doofuses. Though I would never wish the difficulty of a trans life on anyone, I see my FtM partner as being way more interesting, emotionally wiser, and deeper than most people, because he walked in female shoes for a while. He relates to me more easily. I actually look at my exes (all cismen) and think, Yeah, that guy might have been richer (I mean emotionally, intellectually) if he'd been trans instead.

So it's very easy to picture myself preferring transmen to cismen.

I have one acquaintance who now dates only transmen, for a very similar reason. She prefers them on an emotional level, to the cismen she dated before.

I have another acquaintance who physically doesn't particularly like penises, but loves male energy and only gets excited by men. So she is with a transman too.

I know yet another person, who chases transmen for sexual reasons. She seems to want to sleep with as many as possible. To be honest, I think she kind of uses people, and likes power games. I don't admire her kind of chasing.

So I guess there are multiple types of admirers out there. Multiple motivations.

Weird sex-->-bleeped-<-s aside, I hope it will eventually be seen as normal and healthy, that a person prefers trans partners to cispartners. I think trans people have something to offer to partners, that cis people do not.

Elizabeth

[Lee]

Thanks for your perspective Elizabeth.  With the term "admirers," I think of people who, like your friend, really only have interest in trans people for the sex, rather than the emotional factors involved.  It is nice to hear from people who have a different point of view.

[kimberrrly]

The frustration with the so called "->-bleeped-<-s" comes from guys wanting a woman with male genitalia. And a lot of them lose interest when you have surgery.  That is painfull. Still their preference is totally legitimete and not suddenly perverse because we dont like it. These men deserve the deepest respect for their desire for love just like anybody else. A lot of them are perfectly normal decent loving AND masculine "straight" guys that like their woman to be a bit different.
It can make one insecure about having surgery though.
I do feel that we should be carefull not to lash out our frustration on people that love some of us for their own reasons.

The other problem is that men in general seem to be uneasy about beeing out in the open with their TS girlfriend, and to his friends and family. Woman that love TS seem to be way more relaxed about that then men.

You know! For some I think a big part of the succes of a transition is the ability to love and receive love. 
For a FtM that loves woman it is probably way easier to get a girlfriend then a FtM that has to turn to the gay community to search for a boyfriend.

What it comes down too, is that we all have different problems and different lovers with different challanges.
And if your life as a TS is hard or not...also to some extend probably depends on those factors.

But in the end... true love is always rare, no matter what or who you are.

Love
Birgitta

[Chaser]

Also, are there ever any ->-bleeped-<-s into trans women that are women?

Yes me!

[Nygeel]

Yes me!

Alrighty. In my experiences it's usually men that chase trans women and women that chase trans men.

I don't like the generalizations ->-bleeped-<-s make. I don't like how they think I share some sort of insight or knowledge because of the genitals I was assigned at birth.  I don't like how they see me as being "so brave" for simply being me. Do you tell a person of color that they're brave for existing?

[some ftm guy]

  I don't like how they see me as being "so brave" for simply being me. Do you tell a person of color that they're brave for existing?

no and i have a friend who said that to me twice when i came out to her as trans, it was weird have to admit, it was supposed to be a compliment but it just felt eh...messed up ya know? i don't think I'm being brave for transitioning, I've never thought of her as brave for existing as gay it's just who she is so...i think it's good that she asked a few questions though now she's kinda sorta educated on it. maybe the best thing she thought to say was how "brave" i am because she just didn't know anything about us before.

[Byron]

A ->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<- is someone who gets aroused by the presence of male and female sex characteristics (breasts and penises for instance) in a kinky way.

What then would be the term for a person who is attracted to transgender people, but not because they have both male and female characteristics?  Most people use the term "->-bleeped-<- ->-bleeped-<-" very broadly, and your definition is very specific, which I appreciate.