Increased Sexuality . . .

[gina_taylor]

My girlfriend and I were discussing this the other day, and she believes that transsexuals increase their sexuality more after SRS and even before. Has anyone experienced this?

Gina 

[Kim]

Hi again Gina,
   Actually, I don't find my drive increased. Though I have noticed things have changed in other ways. We find now that I am not out trying to be a souped up sports car whereas I want to go from 0-120 in under 5 minutes!!lol
   However, as far as drive goes I am afraid because of my situation I am not much help either. Before we realized I was IS I wanted intimacy all the time. Even after making love I found I was still in high gear for wanting more. Now we realize why. I was getting my pleasure from that coat rack thingy down there which is not really where my pleasure comes from. Now that we are embracing my true being (female) and now know what that partial opening is all about below my sac area (vagina) we have also explored and found the base of the penis where it meets the sac area very highly sensitive and aroused at time of intimacy. We have discussed this with our doctors and we all agree that this must be the clitorial region and it got intertangled into the development of the penis somehow. Now that the 'girl' parts of me are being satisfied during intimacy my drive has balanced out to 'normal'. I am fully satisfied now during intimacy. That all being said though, I honestly can see one's drive increasing somewhat due to the fact that you are making love as a woman now and not as a man. You are not trying to hide your true self and there is a great freedom there. And during intimacy, much like every day living, that freedom lifts your restrictions and your senses and feelings are more felt by you. And of course, the better something feels, such as intimacy, the more you may desire it.
                                                           Kim 

[Altair]

I have heard of this happening.  I guess some women's system resets after SRS and functions more like a cisgendered women's where  progestin can cause horniness to spike.  The effectiveness of progestin on sex drives varies among women so perhaps the ones who report a spike in sex drive are those that are more sensitive to it.

[gina_taylor]

Hey Kim, really great hearing from you! How have you been? I think that you really gave me what I was looking for.  I guess I might have left out one thing in my opening post, which was that my girlfriend feels that we as transsexuals (pre and post) want more sex  and then when we do have SRS we're still wanting that sex.  Any thoughts

Gina 

[mavieenrose]

Hi there,
Although I've been connecting to this site for a couple of weeks now, this is actually my very first post so please bear with me...

Personally I found that pre-op I was often more easily in situations where sex was possible, but didn't have any drive or desire.

Post-op (14 years) I'm now much more cautious about who I find myself with and I therefore have much fewer possibilities, BUT I have finally discovered what it is to have a sex drive!  I even discovered the pleasures of going to bed alone with a little electric toy...

I can honestly say that for me my sex drive has drastically increased and the pleasure I get is 10 times better.  I suppose it's a lot down to being happy now with my physical identity.

Love to all,
MVER XXX

[Renae.Lupini]

My experience in this realm started when I was way pre anything and very much in the closet expect for enough people to count on my fingers. I was taking Spiro for almost a year and ended up getting into a relationship with a woman. We had marathon sex like it was going out of style. We would spend days at a time only taking breaks for cigarettes and food occasionally. I also figured out how to suppress ejaculating and experience an actual orgasm. I am talking lighting bolts and tingling extremities wake the neighbors type of orgasms. Low and behold, my girlfriend was having them as well. I didn't put 2 and 2 together and realize that I found the way to experience the female orgasm and I did it by lowering my testosterone only. I wasn't taking any female hormones at all at that time.

Testosterone tends to make a person want to have sex and be done with it. the opposite of that is wanting more and more and more and more. and well, you get my point. I did go off the Spiro for a time as well and our sex life did go to hell in a hand-basket too. It wasn't bad sex but I was no longer initiating it as much as so she thought I was just not interested but I was just waiting for her to initiate something.

So to answer your question, yes, HRT will do wonders for your sex drive.

[melissa90299]

I was experiencing  the same type of orgasm Renae describes to the point that I became sexually addicted and, besides my girlfriend, I was having sex with four or five guys a week for awhile. When I became sober, I ended my sexual escapades too.

[gina_taylor]

Excuse me for being so blunt, but have any pre-op or post-op transsexual found that they are craving sex more. As I said before, my girlfriend believes that either as a pre-op or a post op that our thoughts are more filled with wanting sex. Even though I am a non-op, I don't express these carnal desires,

Gina 

[Renae.Lupini]

Are you on any type of HRT regimen?

[gina_taylor]

No, I am not. Why do you ask???

Gina 

[Renae.Lupini]

That would explain the lack of the sex drive you are not experiencing. It wasn't until I started taking Spiro that it hit me. Once I threw Premarin into the mix then it really hit me. You still have testosterone surging through your veins. If you get on an HRT regimen you then experience the female/TG sex drive your girlfriend speaks of.

[gina_taylor]

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. As I've said before, due to medical problems I can't start on HRT, so I will never be able to reach that stage, but it's not going to stop me from being somewhat sexually active with my girlfriend. 

Gina

[Renae.Lupini]

Okay, that makes a lot of sense. As I've said before, due to medical problems I can't start on HRT, so I will never be able to reach that stage, but it's not going to stop me from being somewhat sexually active with my girlfriend. 

Gina

is it the estrogens or the anti-androgens that you can't take?
using an anti-androgen alone can lower testosterone enough to make a difference in your body's chemistry. Just some food for thought to talk to your doctor about.

[Keira]

Its strange that you cannot take estrogen or anti-androgens when zillions of women in very poor health have it running through their veins. I wonder if the doctor's telling you the whole thing.
Low doses of intravenous estrogen and anti-androgens have a very low risk profile.

The one major reason for not taking estrogen would be that you have genetic leyden factor which greatly predisposes to cltting and DVT; and even then, if the liver is bypassed and doses are kept low, the DVT risk is minimal. In the case of absolute impossibility for whatever reason, as Renae said, an anti-androgen like Spiro (which is used by people in very bad health all the time to diminish blood pressure) by changing the balance between E and T (every male has E in their body) could help slightly feminize you and also demasculinize you (those are two different things).

[melissa90299]

Its strange that you cannot take estrogen or anti-androgens when zillions of women in very poor health have it running through their veins. I wonder if the doctor's telling you the whole thing.
Low doses of intravenous estrogen and anti-androgens have a very low risk profile.

The one major reason for not taking estrogen would be that you have genetic leyden factor which greatly predisposes to cltting and DVT; and even then, if the liver is bypassed and doses are kept low, the DVT risk is minimal. In the case of absolute impossibility for whatever reason, as Renae said, an anti-androgen like Spiro (which is used by people in very bad health all the time to diminish blood pressure) by changing the balance between E and T (every male has E in their body) could help slightly feminize you and also demasculinize you (those are two different things).

I do not know any medical condition worse than testosterone poisoning!

[Laura Eva B]

My girlfriend and I were discussing this the other day, and she believes that transsexuals increase their sexuality more after SRS and even before. Has anyone experienced this?

Gina 

Has your girlfriend experience of post op transsexual women to have this opinion    ?

Not being on any meds your own experience / sexual performance / libido will surely be 100% male ?

Think you will find that the concensus is that HRT, and a really serious androgen blocker like Androcur (forget Spiro), will as in my case kill libio stone dead ... and still having "male bits" I was so thankful for that !

Yes, post-op I'm really horny, not in the uncontrolled way I was in times long past, my libio is way way gentler, but I think about sex most days and work myself to full orgasm I guess about once a week ... but way less than in pre-op pre-hrt days, so I guess in my case your girlfriend is so wrong !

(P.S. I go for boyfriends  ... love women as friends, but being with a woman sexually, as always, and especially post-op has zero appeal for me !)

Laura x

[gina_taylor]

Thank you ladies for the valuable information that you have given me. The reason that I can't start on HRT is basically because I have a problem with my liver. But I will ask my therapist about starting on just Androcur, to lower my testosterone level. Good point Keira about how estrogen and anti-androgens are running through woman, but keep in mind that that is more natural for them then it is for us. Now I do realize that even as males we do have a low percentage of estrogen running through our bodies, and it's the testosterone that is killing it off. Yes Laura, my girlfriend has been around and been with post and pre-op transsexuals to say that their sex drive is more increased. I do realize that my libido is more male than it would be female. But tell me, after your SRS have you found that your desire for sex has increased or decreased and how does it feel? BTW, I was just checking out your website, and you're very beautiful.

Gina 

[Renae.Lupini]

I don't plan on having GRS so I can't speak from that point of view at all

[melissa90299]

Don't injectables bypass the liver?

[Renae.Lupini]

Don't injectables bypass the liver?

according to most documentation, yes they do.