So, Jenny& Amy - If a 1/3 reduction in the chord length brings a 130 Hz voice to 205 Hz (+75Hz), what would it do to a 100 Hz voice? It would not go to 175 Hz but what - 160 Hz?
Quote from: Expressgirl on January 30, 2014, 09:24:50 PM
I would like to send them the same video/pitch parameters, which you did. What did you ask your ENT to do when you wanted to send Dr. Kim your results? What vocal cord issues do you have? Is there something specific I can ask my ENT to look for?
I have made a thread on my voice myself -
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,153931.new.htmlBasically what I had done was an endocsopic video with different frequencies (I had to say "aaa"). They gave me the video on request. Also, they did a speech analysis which consisted of me reading stuff, talking, making very low up to very high tones, keep one tone as long as I could and so on. From that they determined how much air loss I have while speaking (short length of keeping a tone), what my average speaking frequency is, what my pitch range is. They diagnosed me with a double sided incomplete glottal closure, which means I have two gaps when my vocal chords are closing, which is not good as it means I have hypertension and I loose a lot of air by that, so that I cannot hold a tone for more than 9 seconds and have a breathy sound a bit. Also it means that I am straining my voice a lot just by regular conversation. In addition I have some sort of assymetric vibration. In addition to these two things, Dr Kim told me from the videos he got from me, that I also have a vocal tremor. Otherwise he confirmed the results. Since my speaking range now is about 140 Hz, he did not comment on that as this is the normal range for him to do the surgery on (130 Hz to 200 Hz increase). I wrote him only later that my original voice was at 100 Hz and then he raised some concerns about not reaching the 200 Hz. Also he said that the hypertension and tremor as well as the assymetry might affect the healing period and the pitch increase even further, so he advised more or less against it for now. I am presently working on fixing the issuew with voice training.
Quote from: eh-lyssa on January 30, 2014, 10:21:55 AM
I am looking into voice surgery because of difficulties in changing my pitch due to a previous injury due to a blood clot killing the nerve to my left vocal cord. Since then the nerve has healed and have regained some function but I don't have the pitch range I used to.
Tell this in detail to Dr Kim and send him data. There is a chance that he can help with that, but there is also a chance that it can actually make it harder for him and you to get good results
QuoteI saw a voice specialist (Dr Kirkham) about my injury and asked him about voice feminization surgery and he strongly advised me against it due to the restriction in your airway that results. He said any inflammation (like allergy) can result in closing off your airway much easier than without surgery.
He said he used to do voice feminization surgery but would never do it again for this reason.
I am not sure this is true. I heard there is an issue with intubations as they may choose the wrong intubator in an emergency surgery. But I think most women will have a similar sized larynx opening and still breathe ok, isnt that so?
Quote from: alexiakk on January 30, 2014, 08:00:30 AM
Prosody can not be changed with hormones or surgery. It must be learned, the way an actor would acquire the skills to take on another's personality of sorts. It requires a speech therapist very, very experienced in transgender voice changes, who can teach prosody. In most, it also requires years of practice to perfect and have it sound natural and effortless."
I'm gonna find the brain functionality back! ![Cheesy :D](https://www.susans.org/Smileys/susans/cheesy.gif)
Yes, that is important and I think it also is still part of my problems. Since I started to work on that a bit mor eagain, more people are telling my my voice is ok as it is and I should not alter pitch as it is not pitch that is important but resonance and prosody and intonation and melody and all that - basically telling me I could have a totally female voice at 140 Hz or so... I am not sure...