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Yeson voice feminization surgery

Started by Jennygirl, April 22, 2013, 06:09:10 PM

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anjaq

Very true Jamie - many are just trying to hard, probably sometimes also just to overcome the voice shortcomings they have otherwise

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lovelyjmi

I just find that, and this isn't everyone, but a lot of trans men and women just try way too hard to be super girly or manly. All we want is to be accepted correctly, but sometimes it just comes off as un-natural when we try too hard. So really, being yourself, makes you more natural. Regardless as to what you think a woman should sound like or not. I mean, who's judging now when we say a woman should always be ditzy or head spoken. It just doesn't work for everyone. If I did that stuff, people would be like, wtf? I have attitude and character. I like to be out there and loud. I do act girly though, just not the stereotype you know? I've never once been told since VFS that I sound un-natural. In fact, I've been told I sound SO girly and come off as super happy now. And I think, that's the most important thing here. Being happy and acting like yourself.
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anjaq

Totally true - many transfolks seem to try and over-act. And some want to push that on you as well. I had to defend still wearing sneakers and wise Jeans and basically very few makeup when I transitioned because some people thought they had to push their womanly ideals on me LOL - But I was just me and this is what I found now a bit annoying about voice training - the idea to have to "learn how to speak properly" was putting me off. But apparently some of that is needed - even more so if your voice is naturally low. But then I tend to feel like I am "faking" it. And wait, what was the goal of transition again, to just be me and free?!

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ElleA

So I've booked my filights, and now everything is real. I am actually going! I always seem to talk about having surgery for so long and then it all seems to get booked and done within a matter of weeks
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Jess-Taku

Quote from: Jess-Taku on December 01, 2014, 12:31:55 PM
Ahah, this!

my mum is dead set against me travelling out to get this operation... But after being so inspired by all the girls who've had it done... It's kinda hard to let her drag me down ;p

But seriously, i think she's mainly worried about the results... She's 'seen results that have reverted' on the tv, and i gotta be honest, i haven't got a way to disprove to her that 1 year... 2 years... down the line my voice won't have lost the higher pitch...

To that end, and only if anyone who's got some result of 1 year+ post-op with Yeson, me and mum would love to hear your results!! :D

x x x

Did anyone have any feedback on this? ^_^
Tied to the testing of wills, where my heart breaks and spills
Left to the sight of the sky, in your arms I'm defined...

Thrown to the wolves in the minds of your enemies,
in the minds of your enemies
And I'm stone in the eyes of your foolishness...
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Rachelicious

Quote from: Jess-Taku on December 06, 2014, 05:48:35 PM
Did anyone have any feedback on this? ^_^

In spite of the awesome short-term results and anecdontes of the voice continuing to get better over time, I have to say I agree. I know people want their privacy and I totally respect that, for how many post-op vids we have it's kind of a shock that Sarah's 1-year'ish vid is the longest we have of anyone.

If it was presented to a voice symposium in 2007, where are the people from even, say, 2010?
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ElleA

I have to say that until Jenny I don't think that there were any westerners that have had surgery from Yeson. I think that it is also a surgery that a lot of us don't want talk about long term as we just want to get on with our lives. This is the same for most surgeries, I am sure if you asked Jenny or Sarah how they feel about the surgery now they would still be stoked.

I think it a misnomer to expect people to keep showing there results, it's not like you see women that have had breast implants showing there results off 12months later they just get on with life.
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Rachelicious

You basically rehashed everything I just said. For something as imperative as the voice, and considering it's been good enough to present at an international voice symposium since 2007, I do think we deserve to hear results beyond a year or so.

Sure Yeson gave Jenny incentive to do vids, but what about the non-Westerners who've apparently had this done for a long time? Is there no reason to give long-term patients incentive to take 15 minutes of one day of their life to speak into a camera, blur their face out, and help prospective patients feel more secure in the long-term potential? Or is our world really so ADHD that only the immediate matters and not years down the line?

Bear in mind, I think the results we have bode extremely well for long-term potential, but I and others would like more than just prognostication when, quite frankly, it is a resource Yeson could tap.
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anjaq

I think there are some reports that glottoplasty is keeping the pitch up over the years. I have to ask a friend of mine if it was glottoplasty that she got about 15 years ago, but I think it was. But yes of course this is very sparse and people just seem to disappear after they are through with what they need. I did the same back then when I had all my surgeries and had done everything that was reasonably possible medically at that time. So I dont blame anyone becaus eI did also not really share my story to others how my GRS went and all of that. But I guess it would be possible to somehow pull some of those who came before back just for some short words.
I think there were a few Westerners at Yeson before - around the time I saw Jennys videos I also saw a documentary in which two Europeans went for voice surgery in Korea and GRS at Suporns. Also Jenny had I think two western language voice examples which made her go?

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Rachelicious

I hope nobody assumes I'm suggesting that people are bad for falling off the face of the Earth after they're happy with the results - because that is, of course, to be expected.

I'm saying Yeson should incentivize long-term results. We know what 1-4 months sounds like, more of that is hardly a revelation at this point compared to what 1-4 years could be. You can't reasonably expect more than a handful of exceptional people to go out of their way to provide such unless they're suitably rewarded.
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Livvykins

Quote from: Rachelicious on December 07, 2014, 02:09:40 PM
I hope nobody assumes I'm suggesting that people are bad for falling off the face of the Earth after they're happy with the results - because that is, of course, to be expected.

I'm saying Yeson should incentivize long-term results. We know what 1-4 months sounds like, more of that is hardly a revelation at this point compared to what 1-4 years could be. You can't reasonably expect more than a handful of exceptional people to go out of their way to provide such unless they're suitably rewarded.

Hey there, well I posted my 5 months vid the other day.  Jessie has asked me to record one every month for a year, and I fully intend to do so.  I agree, there aren't enough videos for the later stages of healing.  I know Jamie will be doing the same as well.
You can only lie about who you are for so long without going crazy

Full time: Early 2013
HRT: 10/06/2012 Richard Curtis - London
FFS: 05/04/2013 FacialTeam - Marbella
FFS2: 03/02/2015 FacialTeam - Marbella
GCS: 08/04/2014 Dr Phil Thomas - Brighton
VFS: 25/06/2014 Yeson - Seoul Korea
BA/FFS3: 18/04/2016 Ocean Clinic - Marbella
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lovelyjmi

Yup I will!! Bloody month 4 is nearing me ever so slightly lolll...
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anjaq

Hey - I just have booked a date as well, finally. February 25th. OMG - I feel very weird now but excited :D - Will anybody here be there in that time?

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ReDucks

Quote from: anjaq on December 10, 2014, 03:44:35 AM
Hey - I just have booked a date as well, finally. February 25th. OMG - I feel very weird now but excited :D - Will anybody here be there in that time?

CONGRATS!  :D
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lovelyjmi

Holy funk. My embarrassing Yeson interview is up now! Enjoy it yo!

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warmbody28

Quote from: lovelyjmi on December 11, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
Holy funk. My embarrassing Yeson interview is up now! Enjoy it yo!



i really liked your video. it was a good way to answer questions
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lovelyjmi

Hey thank ya!! <3 I tried to make it a little more fun than just sitting in front of a camera and belting out answers haha!
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anjaq

Hehe - the video is really cool. I would be such a contrast, being on the opposite edge of the extrovert-introvert spectrum ;)
There totally needs to be a Rainbow Passage compilation with samples from all the ones who had been at Yeson and some music added ;)

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Jess-Taku

Quote from: ElleA on December 07, 2014, 12:14:45 AM
I have to say that until Jenny I don't think that there were any westerners that have had surgery from Yeson. I think that it is also a surgery that a lot of us don't want talk about long term as we just want to get on with our lives. This is the same for most surgeries, I am sure if you asked Jenny or Sarah how they feel about the surgery now they would still be stoked.

I think it a misnomer to expect people to keep showing there results, it's not like you see women that have had breast implants showing there results off 12months later they just get on with life.

Hey Elle, i never expected anyone to 'keep showing results' and fully understand reluctance to keep uploading data. Having said that, i had merely asked if anyone had done so. It would be nice know that 1 year onwards, 2 years on... The voice is still great quality! If i get a response, brilliant! If not, no big deal, i'll just continue to be unsure :)
Tied to the testing of wills, where my heart breaks and spills
Left to the sight of the sky, in your arms I'm defined...

Thrown to the wolves in the minds of your enemies,
in the minds of your enemies
And I'm stone in the eyes of your foolishness...
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Jess-Taku

Quote from: lovelyjmi on December 11, 2014, 03:13:47 AM
Holy funk. My embarrassing Yeson interview is up now! Enjoy it yo!



This is great! :D
Tied to the testing of wills, where my heart breaks and spills
Left to the sight of the sky, in your arms I'm defined...

Thrown to the wolves in the minds of your enemies,
in the minds of your enemies
And I'm stone in the eyes of your foolishness...
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