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What was your T level at the beginning of HRT

Started by xterra, May 16, 2013, 02:45:40 PM

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kyh

Quote from: Jesslee on May 28, 2013, 03:51:53 AM
how about we call it the "You have a mental illness club, because society does not want to spend the money & time  to learn this is a genetic problem" sorry I am being a little sarcastic  ;)

I think we should call it The Manly Testosterone Levels Sorority.
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Jesslee

Quote from: kyh on May 28, 2013, 03:54:18 AM
I think we should call it The Manly Testosterone Levels Sorority.

That sounds good also  :laugh:

Or the "Super-Manly Testosterone Levels Sorority"!!!
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Kelly J. P.

Quote from: Sammy on May 28, 2013, 06:08:26 AM
I dunno which system are You all using as the reference, but my T was 6.74 ng/ml (the average rate for males should be 3.30 - 8.05 ng/ml), so I am somewhere in the middle.

The american standard measurement is ng/dl, I believe. The conversion is simple enough; you could basically just get rid of those decimal periods and have your numbers in the hundreds, as per the conversion.
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Anna++

My T was at 2.23 NG / ML.  How did some of you have so much T in your systems?
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Kelly J. P.

Quote from: Anna! on May 28, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
My T was at 2.23 NG / ML.  How did some of you have so much T in your systems?

Testosterone is much higher during puberty, and it falls off afterwards over the years. The older one is, the lower their testosterone tends to be.

Genes and other factors also play a role.
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Kelly J. P.

Quote from: girl you look fierce on May 28, 2013, 10:43:34 AM
For reference

I started so late :o( though I'm glad I never had to know my levels at like 15. Woulda FREAKED. lol

I don't have numbers for a number of things that I've heard here and there, so thank-you for your contribution.

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Sammy

Quote from: girl you look fierce on May 28, 2013, 11:08:34 AM
:)

Unfortunately judging by people's levels, it seems like T level is not a very good predictor of anything!

I concur that it must be genetics which play the most part in this all...
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smile_jma

I didn't test my T in the beginning, but after 3 months of LOW spiro, I was at 8.58ng/ml (858ng/dl?)



After 3 weeks of androcur, that happened. 0.17ng/ml >> 17ng/dl. According to the normals posted on the lab results. Wow. Andro works(ed) for me.
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smile_jma

Yah, I'm glad the doc switched me. And I don't have to worry about what food I eat!!! Yay!! Only alc...but I don't drink anyway. I like driving toooo much.

I do wonder why andocur isn't legal in the US. I mean, it's "gov't" legal, since they use it on nasty old men who can't stop themselves...
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warlockmaker

Ive been on HRT for over two months and my T levels were 850 ng/dl. I'm over 55 years old and while i'm small framed and 5ft 7ins my family have very fine features. Before HRT I have a full head of hair, low beard growth and minimal body hair. The high T is ment to be a blessing - IF YOU ARE A MALE.

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kim99962

Well mine was 140  e knock it down to 25 in the first 60 days
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eli77

My T was at 350--basically the absolute bottom of normal for my age starting (26). The weirder thing was that my E level was significantly elevated over where it should have been for a bloke (about double the expected max, which is nothing like where a women is during puberty, but still odd).

It's possible I have some kind of intersexy thing going on--voice didn't drop, less body hair than my sis, limited facial hair, female-range bone structure, 0.73 hip-waist, puberty terminated at 16, blahblah. Might just be that I was anorexic from 11 to 26 though--that can screw with development and hormone levels. Basically the only things testosterone puberty hell did to me were a brow ridge, adam's apple, a bit of facial hair, (all three now excised) and 6 feet of height (which I love, actually). Well, that and drove me nearly insane. ;)
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Sarah84

I am not on HRT yet.
I got my sex-hormones complete levels tested first time in my life a month ago and I had high T=25.59nmol/l (~730ng/dl). I was guite annoyed and sad when I saw the result, I was hoping in lower result. That is near the upper treshold for a male. But from some unknown reason I don't have much body hair except on hands and legs (and unfortunately some thick facial hair, but on small face areas) and physically I am glad I don't have too much masculine shape. And my estradiol and progesterone levels was also above average for a male E=47pg/ml P=1.097ng/ml (I was using some herbal pills for post menopausal treatment but for 14 days maybe it rised the levels, I don't know...).
My real name is Monika :)
HRT: 11.11.2014
SRS: 5.11.2015 with Chettawut
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Michelle S.

Hey, can anyone help me out with this? I lost my paperwork but I remember it being in the 500 range. I see everyone is posting a completely different number.

Anyways, if anyone could tell me if that's high or low? I remember telling my gyno that does my hormones that I barely grew any facial hair and it took weeks for it to be noticeable. Then after the results came back in, she pointed out the numbers and said it was higher than she expected considering my facial hair.

Thanks!!


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Sarah84

Quote from: Michelle S. on June 25, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
Hey, can anyone help me out with this? I lost my paperwork but I remember it being in the 500 range. I see everyone is posting a completely different number.

Anyways, if anyone could tell me if that's high or low? I remember telling my gyno that does my hormones that I barely grew any facial hair and it took weeks for it to be noticeable. Then after the results came back in, she pointed out the numbers and said it was higher than she expected considering my facial hair.

Thanks!!

There are diffrent units used in measurements.  For example my results was in nmol/l and many people here uses ng/dl or ng/ml.
I think your result are in ng/dl judging from the value.
500 is about average for a male I guess.

BTW:
Conversion between weight based units is pretty simple...
example [ng/ml]=[ng/dl]/100.

And Here is conversion calculator for those who want to convert between molar and weight units...
http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php
Hope it will help.

My real name is Monika :)
HRT: 11.11.2014
SRS: 5.11.2015 with Chettawut
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Michelle S.

Quote from: Sarah84 on June 25, 2013, 05:54:28 PM
There are diffrent units used in measurements.  For example my results was in nmol/l and many people here uses ng/dl or ng/ml.
I think your result are in ng/dl judging from the value.
500 is about average for a male I guess.

BTW:
Conversion between weight based units is pretty simple...
example [ng/ml]=[ng/dl]/100.

And Here is conversion calculator for those who want to convert between molar and weight units...
http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php
Hope it will help.

Awesome thanks. It calculated, 17.35 nmol/L. You're saying this about average? I can live with that :) I always thought, minus the lacking of facial hair, that I was go to be full of t.

Can I ask a side favor by chance? I also remember my e level being like 37? The printout said that "normal" was <39. Does this mean I had relatively high e levels for a "man," I just had high e all together or is that really a meaningless figure?

Thanks! You people are so smart, I thought I had to ask :)


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Sarah84

Quote from: Michelle S. on June 25, 2013, 06:11:47 PM
Awesome thanks. It calculated, 17.35 nmol/L. You're saying this about average? I can live with that :) I always thought, minus the lacking of facial hair, that I was go to be full of t.

Can I ask a side favor by chance? I also remember my e level being like 37? The printout said that "normal" was <39. Does this mean I had relatively high e levels for a "man," I just had high e all together or is that really a meaningless figure?

Thanks! You people are so smart, I thought I had to ask :)

I am not really sure about the E. My printout was similar, I had 47pg/ml estradiol. There was some graphical symbol showing that I am above their lab range for a male, but the concrete E range tresholds was not present on the paper. I only know that I am probably right on the max treshold (something I like  :))
37pg/ml should be above average.

I am confused about total estrogen vs. estradiol. I know there should be more estrogens(estrone, estriol etc?), but I don't know if they have any singnificant influence.

I hope there is someone who can clarify this?
My real name is Monika :)
HRT: 11.11.2014
SRS: 5.11.2015 with Chettawut
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Sarah84

Oh and I have one question. Have anyone tested Free Testosterone Index? My value was 44%. I don't know if it has some valid meaning in males. It should measure how much T is unbounded to SHGB and thus can be used and bounded to cell receptors. The rest of T should be locked =>doesn't cause "harm" to my body :). Am I right?

Sarah
My real name is Monika :)
HRT: 11.11.2014
SRS: 5.11.2015 with Chettawut
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Theo

Quote from: Sarah84 on June 25, 2013, 06:49:29 PM
Oh and I have one question. Have anyone tested Free Testosterone Index? My value was 44%. I don't know if it has some valid meaning in males. It should measure how much T is unbounded to SHGB and thus can be used and bounded to cell receptors. The rest of T should be locked =>doesn't cause "harm" to my body :). Am I right?

That is my understanding, and one of the reasons why my endo suspects that my rather high initial T levels (759...) did relatively little harm all things considered.

You can calculate your free androgen index quite easily by dividing your total T by your SHBG value * 100. Just be careful to use the same units; usually nmol/L. Not a perfect comparison to free T, but close enough. Anything under 30 seems to be seen as androgen deficient, female values are between 7-10.
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Horizon

I got my test results back a few days ago, and apparently my T is pretty low for guys at 263ng/dl (standard American unit, right?).  I'm hoping that's low enough that a) I won't need a high dosage of Spiro, or b) proscar (generic, ofc) + estrogen would be enough to bring it down to female range.  Estrogen sounds pretty cheap, but I just don't have the funds for Spiro :/
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