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How long before HRT effects muscle mass?

Started by lissabuchannon, July 14, 2013, 05:19:03 PM

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Tessa James

Yup I am definitely loosing overall strength but only a very slight reduction in muscle mass at 4+ months on HRT.  I do lot's of outdoor farm chores and trail work here that is helping me stay toned.  As Jamie D notes there is nothing unfeminine about a muscular girl and I don't mind a bit that I am strong enough to "take care of myself."  My pectoral muscles have changed as these girly boobs are more fat than muscle and bounce when I run for fun.....and that makes me very happy too.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Jennygirl

The other night I had a really scary dream that I was in the first stages of being abducted by some really creepy guys (one guy came up behind me and tried to get a bag over my head). Luckily I still had my strength about me, gave him an elbow to the gut and got away rather unscathed. Still, a SUPER CREEPY dream. Yikes.

Being extra careful now. And yeah, I don't mind having some extra muscle at all.
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Sammy

Last week I had to carry an old TV, which was about 30-40kg heavy - I sort of did that job, by my bicepses did really hurt afterwards for DAYS.
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Misato

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Oh yeah
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I bought a wheely cart for hauling my groceries from the car to my apartment.  I buy things like carbonated water (Helped me lose the most weight as it replaced soda for me) and cat litter mentioned above.  All because my strength is gone.

To think, a year ago I wrestled a box spring up five flights of stairs with no help.  Still thought I was going to die, but I did it.  Six months HRT one week from today.
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Joelene9

  It varies.  In my case, it increased my muscle mass.  My doctor said this is not unheard of, but no problem with that.  The only thing that is decreasing my muscle mass is the debilitating, very painful foot neuropathy the past year confining me to bed at times.  The cause is still unknown.  HRT usage, diabetes, gout and the other usual suspects were ruled out.  There is some pain relief from a painkiller, but the problem is spreading.  I am slowly regaining the muscle mass nonetheless. 

  Joelene
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stacey fisher

I have now been on hrt 13 days and have started having pain in my muscles in my legs and  ask my doctor if this normal and told me muscles can start to soften in a week to 10 days in some people but effects most people in different ways and now to cases r the same
start hrt on july 11/7/2013 been living as fem for 15 months full time and changed name legal a year ago and med recs to fem started spironolactone 7/6/2014 just laying in bed after getting my surgery done on the 11/11/2015 feel so good
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Tessa James

Being capable, fit and having endurance are part of overall health but the psychological aspects of this are fascinating too.  Having gratefully given up on "acting like a man" I no longer feel compelled to "be a man" and solve problems like lifting monster weights or fixing the car....  It feels so much better to ask for help but friends have encouraged me not to fall into the "oh so fragile and breathlessly helpless act" either.  Some friends are uncomfortable with that part of me not being a guy who they could call on to move furniture or more.  I recognize that I am also dealing with my own stereotypes about male and female but it is such a relief to not feel like somehow it is my role to take charge.  Now living in a more cooperative and less competitive way feels like another major advantage of transition and HRT.   A softer and yet toned physique is a reasonable goal for this girl.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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missy1992

I would say the effects of HRT are immediate. As time progresses you can expect (within about two years) to see a "bell curve" of atrophy. For the first month you may lose very little, and the overall loss will peak at around 6 months to even a year. I am just generalizing results here... trying to share my experience.

IMO, there are 3 keys to loss of upper body strength. First and foremost... start on HRT if you already havent.
Secondly, diet. Eating high protein meals will inevitably help maintain whatever muscle you already have. Try eating less proteins and more veggies & complex carbs.
Last is exercise. Keep doing pushups and lifting and you will maintain/gain upper body muscles. Try running/walking/jogging instead.

If you follow those three steps you can expect great loss of upper body bulk. I know that I did.
Keep in mind there is nothing wrong with being muscular. I am at a point now where I work out in order to gain! Lose a lot when you first transition (the "boy" muscles) but afterwards exercise and healthy eating are always great ideas!
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cilian

Quote from: stacey fisher on July 23, 2013, 06:40:40 AM
I have now been on hrt 13 days and have started having pain in my muscles in my legs and  ask my doctor if this normal and told me muscles can start to soften in a week to 10 days in some people but effects most people in different ways and now to cases r the same

good to know that!  ;D
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PrincessDayna

I am just starting month two of EV. I'm about 2 onthes and two weeks into my AA. Although my AA is a low dose, it acted FAST, especially once the injections began weekly.

Before I could lift a lot, having been in the army.  My mother in law attributed it to laziness at first, which was needless to say, no fun, and quite a few arguements to get people to understand that even though the muscles *appear* to be there, I definitivly have lost upper body strength and can no longer try.....what was once fifty pounds feels like 200, and what was once 20lbs now feels like 100.  Not sure if that makes sence, but ya....lifting heavy stuff no longer is viable.  I have somewhat opera arm going on at rest, but i notice if i flex (which i still do as a larger upper rm mass makes me feel not so passable) I can still see the mass and tone of my muscles.....actually, looking down now, they are no longer as toned as they once were.  But this can be attributed to no longer working out like I once did prior (ex special forces, ya you read that correct! Even as a commo geek, you needed to use your arms daily! No lie, I can prove it if challenged on here.....).  Now if I was thrown into the same mix with my old colleagues, I would say that I might not be able to perform as well physically, but would still do it, if that makes sence.

I'm just wanting these upper arms to deminish quite fast.  As they have been.  I want *all* muscles to go away in my physique upper body wise, really.  I notice my shoulder sseem smaller, but could just be attributed to other changes....either way, my end goal arm wise, is to have nce slender, feminine arms like a model.  Nothing against muscular, toned women, I just dont want that.  At the moment, I feel like Xena Warrior Princess with Jon and Kate hair lol.  The muscles can go away....right along with facial hair.  I find if I focus on what I *can* change, the other stuff like fat redist, and breast growth, facial changes, will be a surprise as I am not so *uber fixated* on them.  Took me a month to draw that conclusion, because daily, its a "whats different whats different" game that I *know* annoys the wife, because it was starting to annoy me and I am who is doing that heh. 

But if I were to put an actual % f strength drop this early, I am going to say its around 15% to be conservative, and 35% liberal.  So most likely somewhere in the middle.  As for atrophy, I am going to ask my Endo come sept what AA dose will help increase it, as well as a conjunction of now limited protein.  Before, protein was the name of the game.  Now, not so much, dependant upon the ingestion variables/rates.

Best of wishes to you all!
"Self truth is evident when one accepts self awareness.  From such, serenity". ~Me  ;)



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TerriT

Quote from: kariann330 on July 15, 2013, 01:41:46 AM
....but at least my butt looked amazing lol.


lol, that was awesome. Congrats on your amazing butt! :D
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cilian

I am currently using siterone (androcur) for about 1 months and 2 weeks. But I haven't noticed any muscle changes at all.  :(
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Just Ole Me

I have been on HRT for 4 months.  I have list alot of strength. I have also lost muscle mass in shoulders, butt and legs.  My wife massaged my shoulders today and was shocked at how much less muscle mass I had in my shoulders. Kinda freaked her out but she is fine.
Just trying to find comfort in this "shell" that doesn't fit.  But I am "remodeling" the shell finally!
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Jennygirl

I find that the size of my arms fluctuates greatly with my overall weight. Recently, my appetite has been super low and I've lost nearly all of the excess weight I gained from May into July. I lost about 12 pounds in total during August so far, and I'm back to the low side of my ideal weight. The interesting thing is that my biceps are now once again <10" around, and I've been working myself overtime in the shop bending metal and lifting heavy objects all day.

I feel like my arm muscle is still pretty much the same but there is just a lot less padding around it which makes my arms look waaay less bulky- even though it's really only a difference of about 0.5" circumference.

And honestly I think that not eating immediately for a few hours if you do do something active does help. Also I have been eating mostly raw vegan low sugar and low protein. I'm very happy with the way my arms look now.
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Sammy

Almost 3,5 months in the HRT, I have certainly lost a lot of physical strength but not that much of visible muscle loss. I dunno, some of that could be attributed to weight loss but I my shoulders got narrower - I am in the upper range for average female width with my 17' shoulders. My forearms look quite toned down and probably would pass as female. I have not seen much loss in my biceps - but if I flex them almost nothing happens - but they still get firm and such. But if I have to carry something heavier then they DO hurt a lot afterwards. Which is nice :). Triceps has almost totally melted but I never had them in "proper" shape :P.
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Sammy

Quote from: Glitterfly on August 25, 2013, 11:58:45 AM
is 17" your biacromial or outside width?

Outside, since I cant measure biacromial myself :(
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Sammy

Quote from: Glitterfly on August 25, 2013, 12:22:56 PM
oh okay :) where  did you get the 'upper female range'? did you find a chart of some kind...? if yes copy it here or post a link please ^^

I remember I was reading this article
http://www.livestrong.com/article/484806-the-average-shoulder-width-for-females/
and then somewhere else I read that those 17' are like the upper range for females (was quite reassuring as I hope to get my down to 16').
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Harlow

Quote from: The Wagoneer on July 14, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
ive lost nearly 2 inches in height tho which is AWESOME! my wife is 6'3 and i was 6ft  im down to right at 5'10 and i love it

Whut?? How can that be, I didn't think that was possible?? I'm almost 6'2" so would be interesting if this is possible!  :o


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Sammy

Yes You can loose 1-2 inches of Your height over extended period of time (about two years usually), as well as get a decrease in Your shoes size (which happened pretty fast for me).
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Harlow

Quote from: -Emily- on August 25, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
Yes You can loose 1-2 inches of Your height over extended period of time (about two years usually), as well as get a decrease in Your shoes size (which happened pretty fast for me).

Holy wow, never knew that before now! That's exciting, not like it will happen but always thought 5'10" would be the perfect height to be. I'm pretty much 6'1" so 5'11" would be something to look forward to. Also my feet are HUUUGE lol, so that would be another plus!

How many shoe sizes did you lose and how fast? Smallest I wear is a 10.5 or 11 in mens US size.


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