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Started by Xhianil, September 21, 2013, 07:16:59 PM

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Xhianil

Ok, I'm having trouble finding actual information on becoming female, so i have a few questions.

1) first steps, what should i do first?

2) what are the surgerys?

3) what do they do?

4) how much do they cost?

5) what concerns do i have?

6) what hormones should i ask about once i get someone to ask.

7) who should i ask?

8 ) how do i cope till i can come out?

9) any other tips or facts?
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Danielle Emmalee

Check out the "Transitioning" section on here.  Lots of good information.  Also could be a good place to ask specific questions about it.  To somewhat answer your question, it really depends on what "becoming female" means to you personally.  To some, they are already female and don't need procedures or hormones to do that.  Others feel the need for just hormones alone.  Some may just be satisfied with facial feminization surgery.  As for what hormones to ask for, I don't think you will have to, they will prescribe what is right for you.  You could certainly make suggestions if you wanted but the doctor should be able to prescribe on their own without your input.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Danielle Emmalee

My suggestion for a first step before worrying about all of this is talk to a therapist with experience dealing with gender.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Xhianil

Oops, guess it is the wrong place, so sorry.
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Danielle Emmalee

No I didn't mean that at all, just a suggestion.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Xhianil

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 21, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
No I didn't mean that at all, just a suggestion.

I'm just new is all, so still very little idea about all this.
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Jamie D

Your post is fine here, Xhianil.
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Danielle Emmalee

I'd like to make it extra clear that I wasn't saying that you made this post in the wrong thread.  I was only trying to let you know that the transitioning section is there if you had more questions about it specifically.  It truly wasn't my intention at all, as you can see I also did answer your question.  If I truly felt that you needed to move your post to the transitioning section, I would have saved my answers for your question to pop up in that thread.  I'm really sorry if that's how it came off.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
  •  

Xhianil

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 21, 2013, 07:24:09 PM
Check out the "Transitioning" section on here.  Lots of good information.  Also could be a good place to ask specific questions about it.  To somewhat answer your question, it really depends on what "becoming female" means to you personally.  To some, they are already female and don't need procedures or hormones to do that.  Others feel the need for just hormones alone.  Some may just be satisfied with facial feminization surgery.  As for what hormones to ask for, I don't think you will have to, they will prescribe what is right for you.  You could certainly make suggestions if you wanted but the doctor should be able to prescribe on their own without your input.

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 22, 2013, 12:03:02 AM
I'd like to make it extra clear that I wasn't saying that you made this post in the wrong thread.  I was only trying to let you know that the transitioning section is there if you had more questions about it specifically.  It truly wasn't my intention at all, as you can see I also did answer your question.  If I truly felt that you needed to move your post to the transitioning section, I would have saved my answers for your question to pop up in that thread.  I'm really sorry if that's how it came off.

Before i know what all i want done i first need to know what can be done.
You came off fine, I'm sorry if i made you feel bad about yourself.
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Danielle Emmalee

What can be done, there's a lot so try not to be overwhelmed, as I said some people choose none, some people choose one or 2 and others choose all:

-Hormones (Can make you grow breasts, soften the skin, soften and lighten and reduce body hair, change fat distribution in your face and to your thighs and butt and breasts, among other things, of course some people experience none of this or only a few things from this list. it really depends on the person and their genes)
-Facial Feminization Surgery (To reduce brow protrusion, make your nose more feminine, chin augmentation, eyelid lifts, among others)
-Tracheal Shave (To reduce the appearance of the adam's apple)
-Breast Augmentation (If hormones don't do enough for your liking, you can make them bigger)
-SRS (Turns your penis into a vagina)
-Orchiectomy (removal of testicles, reduces testosterone production as well as the obvious aesthetic change)
-Hip/Butt Implants (to increase the size of your butt/hips)
-Electrolysis/Laser Hair Removal (to remove hair, mostly permanent after a number of sessions)

The prices all depend on where you live but most can run into the tens of thousands (besides hormones which is an ongoing cost)
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
  •  

Jamie D

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 12:05:55 AM
Before i know what all i want done i first need to know what can be done.
You came off fine, I'm sorry if i made you feel bad about yourself.

The Male-to-Female (MtF, M2F) transition process can include physical, psychological, physiological, and emotional changes.

The root cause, in most cases, for the desire to transition is the "disconnect" between one's physical body and one's gender identity, often referred to as "gender dysphoria."  Depending on the degree of dysphoria, and the ability to make changes, the transition may take a number of different paths.
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Xhianil

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 22, 2013, 12:18:15 AM
What can be done, there's a lot so try not to be overwhelmed, as I said some people choose none, some people choose one or 2 and others choose all:

-Hormones (Can make you grow breasts, soften the skin, soften and lighten and reduce body hair, change fat distribution in your face and to your thighs and butt and breasts, among other things, of course some people experience none of this or only a few things from this list. it really depends on the person and their genes)
-Facial Feminization Surgery (To reduce brow protrusion, make your nose more feminine, chin augmentation, eyelid lifts, among others)
-Tracheal Shave (To reduce the appearance of the adam's apple)
-Breast Augmentation (If hormones don't do enough for your liking, you can make them bigger)
-SRS (Turns your penis into a vagina)
-Orchiectomy (removal of testicles, reduces testosterone production as well as the obvious aesthetic change)
-Hip/Butt Implants (to increase the size of your butt/hips)
-Electrolysis/Laser Hair Removal (to remove hair, mostly permanent after a number of sessions)

The prices all depend on where you live but most can run into the tens of thousands (besides hormones which is an ongoing cost)

Thank you for answering 2, 3, and 4 for me, honestly i want all (except the hip implants and breast augmentation) of that, any help figuring out how to get there helps a lot.
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Danielle Emmalee

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 12:43:58 AM
Thank you for answering 2, 3, and 4 for me, honestly i want all (except the hip implants and breast augmentation) of that, any help figuring out how to get there helps a lot.

1,6,7, and 8 will be answered with a good gender therapist for the most part.

5. The list could go on forever.  Will they all be concerns that affect you?  Probably not.

9. Try to stay positive! 

Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Xhianil

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 22, 2013, 12:47:48 AM
1,6,7, and 8 will be answered with a good gender therapist for the most part.

5. The list could go on forever.  Will they all be concerns that affect you?  Probably not.

9. Try to stay positive!

I mean first steps, pre therapist even.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 12:50:56 AM
I mean first steps, pre therapist even.

For me, it was self-acceptance and education of ->-bleeped-<-.
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Danielle Emmalee

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 12:50:56 AM
I mean first steps, pre therapist even.

You already made the first step.  Coming here to learn more. :D
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
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Xhianil

Quote from: Anonymous User on September 22, 2013, 12:55:53 AM
You already made the first step.  Coming here to learn more. :D

Only problem is here the info is a little buried under and hard to find.
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Danielle Emmalee

Quote from: Xhianil on September 22, 2013, 12:58:41 AM
Only problem is here the info is a little buried under and hard to find.

Nobody should bother you about posting or asking about things that have already been answered.  Feel free to ask anything.  And if you are pointed towards a thread that was already made with your question, don't take it as the person saying you shouldn't have asked, they are probably just trying to help by pointing you towards a lot of information that you can't be expected to find on your own.
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?

Discord, are we your prey alone,
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
  •  

Ltl89

Quote from: Xhianil on September 21, 2013, 07:16:59 PM
Ok, I'm having trouble finding actual information on becoming female, so i have a few questions.

1) first steps, what should i do first?

2) what are the surgerys?

3) what do they do?

4) how much do they cost?

5) what concerns do i have?

6) what hormones should i ask about once i get someone to ask.

7) who should i ask?

8 ) how do i cope till i can come out?

9) any other tips or facts?

Ciao Xhianil,

I'll do my best to answer your question, but I'm a bit tired due to the time and my absorption of melatonin; therefore, forgive the incoherent nature of the post.

1) The best suggestion I have is to prepare yourself for the road ahead.  Make sure that you are aware of what transitioning entails and consider the impact it could have on your life.  There are potential pros and cons and it should be thought about deeply before making a conclusion.  Once you have your answer, I suggest prepare yourself for transitioning.  How will I come out?  What are the consequences?  How do I prepare for them?  How will I deal with others?  And consider the what ifs?  What if I don't turn out the way I hope?  What if I face rejection?  Perhaps this is a hard way to look at things, but these are questions worth considering.  To be honest, I've only pondered these questions and never created a full game plan.  To some degree, I regret that.  Yet, it's never fully possible to plan for something that isn't  predictable. 

2) Surgeries.  Well, this depends.  There are many optional surgeries involved, but none of them are required.  SRS (sexual reassignment surgery) is probably the biggie.  This is the surgery to change one's genitals.  There is a lot more information on this in the post op section of the board.  Then there is FFS (Facial Feminization
Surgery)  This is the surgery to create more feminine facial features.  This isn't always necessary, but it's a godsend for many. Then there is breast augmentation.  Not always necessary because hormones will help with breasts, but again, it can be a godsend to some who don't develop the chest they are hoping for.  There are other surgeries involved (which annoymous user included) but these seem to be the big 3 (well laser as well, but I don't see that as surgery).

3)  I'm confused by what your asking?  Surgery wise?  It depends on the procedure.  With Srs they take what you have and create a functional vagina.  FFS, it depends on what you choose to get done.  I'll leave this to others who are more experienced in the surgical aspects of transitioning.

4)  It can be a lot.  SRS is usually in the $20,000 and more range.  Though it depends on a lot of factors.  Does insurance cover it, where will the surgery be, who will do it,etc.

5) I can't answer that.  Everyone has different concerns.  I plan on only getting srs done and am concerned about the price and going under the knife in general.

6)  Estrogen is the hormone that you want.  Mtf transsexuals take estrogen to further feminize their bodies.  This can be prescribed in pill form, injections, pellets, patches and gels.  In addition to that, most mtfs use an anti-androgen to block testoterone production.  While the testicles remain, you will continue to produce testosterone.  Therefore, getting a blocker is important. 

7)  Most are prescribed hormones through an endocrinologist.   Typically one sees a gender therapist (usually for at least 3 months but it varies) who then writes a letter recommending you to start hormones therapy.  Once you have the letter, you can take it to a endocrinologist who will prescribe the hormones for you.  Some have a general practitioner prescribe them, but this appears to be rare in my experience.  There are also informed consent clinics in some big cities, but the first method is the most common way of getting hormones. 

8)  Coping comes in many forms.  My methods of coping were diverse some good and others problematic.  The good was I focused heavily on my school work and got involved in many activities.  I was an overachiever in a major way and that opened some great doors for me (at least at the time).  To be honest, I really have no good coping skills besides taking the focus off of myself and finding alternative ways to be productive and happy.  But I'm doing this at 24 so obviously I was never great at coping with this,lol.  Others may help you better as I'm not great at this.  One thing that helps me cope mid transition is to accept myself and embrace my trans identity.  I can't say I have fully done it as I'm not close to being full time, but interacting with other trans people and making the small steps to become the real me has been incredibly therapeutic. 

9)  Be true to yourself and do what's best for you.  There are so many possible paths in life.  Choose the one that you want and work hard to make it successful.  Secondly, realize this is a challenge.  However, on the other hand, realize that many things that seem impossible can be overcome.  I'm early in my transition and I've been amazed at how hard it can be.  Yet, I've also been amazed by how things can improve when I didn't see happening.  Lifes a bit of a roller coaster and transitioning is no different. 

Good luck with everything.

P.S.  Told you it would be an incoherent rambling mess,lol. 

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Ltl89

Apparently my 8) became a sunglasses emoticon,lol.  Can you tell I am tired?

Edit-  Okay, I'm confused by my inability to write the number eight.  I'm going to bed now.   
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