Dr Bowers new technique

[Susan T]

All of the major Thai surgeons (not just Suporn) use a scrotal graft for almost all of the internal lining of the vagina. Whatever they say on their web sites, there is really no such thing as a true non inversion technique, even when using a colon graft. It's simply the extent of inversion that differs between this and the standard penile inversion method. I would suspect that many other surgeons worldwide also use similar procedures.

[mash]

Hi everybody  I'm researching too and would like to know where I could see a surgery procedure or photos of the scrotal skin graft procedure I also have trouble locating recent pictures of said surgeons. I am from South Africa and Thai surgeons are my preferred choice due to proximity and costs
I would greatly appreciate any info or  direction. Thanks girls   

[Catherine Sarah]

Hi Mash

Take the following link, then scroll down to "external links" and select the "video of Dr.Marci Bowers"

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Penile_inversion

Albeit slightly aged, it still approximates to the scrotal graft technique.

Huggs
Catherine

[dejan160]

Catherine,

Thank you for posting this link. That is the old technique dr marcie used. Apparently she has improved her technique and now does non inversion

[Catherine Sarah]

Thank you swan,

What actually constitutes a non inversion technique?


I posted that link as mash asked the specific question on scrotal skin graft. Being a resident of South Africa, the chances of her going through Dr.Bowers was somewhat remote.

Huggs
Catherine

[dejan160]

Vicky, who is a recent patient of dr bowers explained that dr marcie uses very little of the penile skin for construction of the neovaginal wall and most of it is conatructed with the scrotal graft. Instead the penile skin is used for construction of labia minora giving better aesthetics. That is the technique most of the thai doctors use today

[mash]

Thank you both I got to see scrotal graft aswell as Penile inversion technique I do prefer the non inversion technique though .Kamol and Chettawut do they both do this technique ?Is this technique done in  one surgery?
Lastly has anyone here had non inversion with either Kamol or Chettawut recently (past 2 years ) 

[Catherine Sarah]

Thank you swan

Vicky, who is a recent patient of dr bowers explained that dr marcie uses very little of the penile skin for construction of the neovaginal wall and most of it is conatructed with the scrotal graft. Instead the penile skin is used for construction of labia minora giving better aesthetics. That is the technique most of the thai doctors use today

My god, all I can say there must be some bloody large scrotal sacs hanging round out there. (No pun intended) I knew I was under endowed but this is ridiculous. If I'd of had that technique, I'd be lucky to have 2" depth. And that would be on a good day with the wind blowing. Here's to inversion.

Huggs
Catherine

[Vicky]

Umm  I think what I meant to get across there was that it is not solely reliant on PI and I really cannot say quantitatively how much of P is now my V.  It is nice to be thought of as an authority and quoted, but I was not built like a stud elephant and nevertheless am very happy.  I may have to back off a bit and simply say that your tissues will be used wisely for the best aesthetic and functional effects that your body will allow.   

[calico]

Thank you both I got to see scrotal graft aswell as Penile inversion technique I do prefer the non inversion technique though .Kamol and Chettawut do they both do this technique ?Is this technique done in  one surgery?
Lastly has anyone here had non inversion with either Kamol or Chettawut recently (past 2 years )

Yes Dr. Chettawut  does do the inversion technique primarily unless you request something different,  as for if any one here has had surgery with him in the last 2 years , yes I had my surgery with him last March 2013. So I am almost at one year,  very sexually active,  aesthetics and sensitivity is top notch, however everyone is different so ymmv.  Also Chettawut don't do "cookie cutter"  surgeries, so what that means is if you have surgery with him you vagina will be up unique to you. If you have any questions you wish to ask me I will do my best to answer them for you.

[veritatemfurto]

I had asked Robin at Dr Bowers office about this last month, in the context that Vicky and I had discussed on my thread about incorporating the trimmed off part of the urethral mucosa as part of the lining around the clitoris and urethra opening where the vulval vestibule would be as a natal female.

"I'm also interested in details on what the current procedure for GRS involves. I have seen the short 5 minute video summary that was made in the 2000s on YouTube, but have spoke to several recent 2012/2013 patients that have told me that the technique has evolved since then to incorporate more material with better aesthetic and functional results and that there are also longer, more recent videos out there too of it."

she replied to me on January 28th, but didn't mention that it is a non-penile inversion technique- "Dr. Bowers is continually improving her surgical technique.  She performs a modified penile inversion and labiaplasty in one stage.  The labia, clitoris, and vaginal cavity are all created in one surgery.  Both the penile and scrotal tissue are used to create the vaginal cavity. " I was kinda hoping for more information on it...

If I am wrapping my head around this non-inversion technique correctly, its the same as the scrotal graft technique? what I don't get is how is the penile shaft reconfigured into the labia, and Bower's website mentions that part of the outer area of the scrotum is used for the labia majora.

This gets me wondering if she could also reconfigure the prostate ducting from secreting lubricants via the urethra like a male does to creating Skene's ducts like where it surfaces in a natal female. Or maybe even using the erectile tissue to construct the internal anatomy of the human vulva (ie internal clitoral structure)  and using 100% of the area for GRS