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Started by Umiko, May 11, 2014, 04:56:03 PM

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Umiko

so today(mother's day) was by far the straw the killed the camel(not just breaking its back). i was in new york all day yesterday and it was fine(not as bad as i thought it would be) today i went home and hung out with my sister all day(again, this was going well. was starting to forgot today and could of lived) but than on the way home, i felt as if my heart was being torn out of my chest. the pain was enough it caused me to black out for a minute, than after, i felt so empty, cold, dead like numb. anyone else felt this way before and how can i regain control? honestly, my cardiac shocks where like a pluck on my skin compared to this. i'm even surprised i'm still conscious. i feel like that spot in the atlantic ocean
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Edge

Black out how? Like are you falling unconscious or is it like your brain shuts down?
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Umiko

Quote from: Edge on May 11, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
Black out how? Like are you falling unconscious or is it like your brain shuts down?
a complete system shut down. brain and body. think of it as a computer that just dies instantly and without warning
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Jessica Merriman

Sorry for being blonde, but is it a medical issue or Dysphoria Sis?
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Umiko

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
Sorry for being blonde, but is it a medical issue or Dysphoria Sis?
haha, i can see why. i wasnt specifying what the issue was. its a dysphoria issue. my dysphoria has left me with this feeling of coldness, deadness and extreme numbness. its like my whole being, my very existence is gone.
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Jessica Merriman

It may not make you feel any better, but most of us have been there. You need desperately to find a distraction until you can begin transition. Otherwise it will eat you up whole. Please understand I DO know the feeling and it is terrible. I also know it is not easy to distract yourself as well, but you have to somehow. :)
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Umiko

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 06:13:19 PM
It may not make you feel any better, but most of us have been there. You need desperately to find a distraction until you can begin transition. Otherwise it will eat you up whole. Please understand I DO know the feeling and it is terrible. I also know it is not easy to distract yourself as well, but you have to somehow. :)
Imma bout to go biking as soon as i get my tires full of air. Just seems like both wednesday and friday are so far away.
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Jessica Merriman

Are those Therapy or HRT days?
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Blue Rabbit

Heya! So..... Apart from the passing out thing, spot on I used to get that day after day after day, after day, after day, after day. For years! 0-o

Numb is most likely the best way to explain the feeling, I would use dead and numb to explain it when I had to. But I feel like at a certain point in my life I was forced to face it. I wanted to move on with my life soooo badly, get my business up and running, start my life, do this and that. And the dysphoria was a separate massive issue that I wanted to tackle as well but couldn't because of how depressed I was. The dysphoria absolutely contributes to depression but for me at least it was not the only cause.
I tried for months a lot of different ways to get up and power through with life but I couldn't, it felt like the numbness was a brick wall. It made EVERYTHING ten times harder. Take me an hour to get a ten minute job done. And in mornings I wouldn't get up for hours, not because I was tired, but because I felt dead, I'd just lie there and do nothing.....

I honestly could deal with the numb feeling, felt it for AGES! Like i've been "non depressed" I guess for a couple of months now and I still feel weird as hell! Cause I'm used to feeling numb! It's amazing! But anyway, the main problem for me was the brick wall that I felt it was, so eventually I went to the doctor seeking help and he was just like yep I know what it is we can help you with that.
There were a couple of things I tried, what worked for me was anti-depressants. Some people swear to god they do nothing.
But for me in my case they were amazing, they didn't just "change me" like people are worried they do for no reason at all.

It was as if I was trying SOOO hard to break that wall down with my bare hands. And the anti-depressants was a hammer. It was still had, all the work that needed to be done for me to get to a better stage in my life still had to be done by me! The anti-depressants made a small change but i was I guess a tool and once I had this minor small change, this minor tool. I just felt like I was finally in control.

I don't know what you've done if you've sought help yet or what the right path for you may be. But if you've not already I strongly suggest you see a doctor and tell him exactly how you feel. Use the numb and dead words you used to describe it here because again it was a small change the drugs, but every little helps and even though the change was small it allowed me to make all the larger changes I was begging to make but felt like I was out of control.
Drugs may not be the path for you and they may not even suggest it, but this is a problem that a doctor can help with (They explained the science to me a bit, and what my brain was doing and that made a lot of sense too) and if they don't help, at least you done something, at least you tried.

And if you decide to go through your transition, it's gonna be hard as ->-bleeped-<- to do so feeling like that.
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Blue Rabbit

#9
Oh! Just wanted to add another thing about "paths". Therapy works for a lot of people, but for me that wouldn't work for me.  I personally can't imagine how it would help anyone. But thats an example how if you find a good doctor they'll help find the path that WILL work for you. For me talking to some stranger about my problems that I already knew I had and thats about it -_-...... Almost like talking to a wall actually, talk to a wall and it can't do nothing so whats the point? Thats how I felt.

But the anti-depressants some people hate them, for me that was the path that helped me a ->-bleeped-<- ton.
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Jessica Merriman

A good Therapist doesn't just listen. Mine has helped tremendously with other issue's related to transition such as legal and other things I had never considered about my future. Some just sit there, but a good one is key to transition, at least in my case. :)
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Edge

Quote from: Umiko Liliana on May 11, 2014, 05:17:25 PM
a complete system shut down. brain and body. think of it as a computer that just dies instantly and without warning
Ah. If it was just your brain shutting down, I'd say it was dissociation which is fairly easy to deal with when one understands it. However, since you are literally passing out, you need to see a doctor because that is most likely a medical issue.
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Jessica Merriman

Are you on Spiro by any chance?
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Blue Rabbit

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Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 06:58:12 PM
A good Therapist doesn't just listen. Mine has helped tremendously with other issue's related to transition such as legal and other things I had never considered about my future. Some just sit there, but a good one is key to transition, at least in my case. :)

Meh maybe, I've had many in the past but they were forced down my throat by schools so I didn't expect them to be of a high quality. But indeed they did just listen. If there are good ones out there who do more than be a brick wall and just absorb information and give nothing out then fantastic!
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Edge

Quote from: Blue Rabbit on May 11, 2014, 07:13:42 PM
Meh maybe, I've had many in the past but they were forced down my throat by schools so I didn't expect them to be of a high quality. But indeed they did just listen. If there are good ones out there who do more than be a brick wall and just absorb information and give nothing out then fantastic!
When I was in school, I was forced on anti-depressants. They made me unable to function, suicidal, and made my life a worse hell than I can describe. A decent person would not wish that on their worst enemy, but no one listened to me and no one helped me. I'd take useless therapists over that poison any day, but maybe that's just me.
Instead, I'd recommend behaviour therapy. Those teach skills for emotion regulation and other things that actually help.
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Blue Rabbit

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Quote from: Edge on May 11, 2014, 07:26:56 PM
When I was in school, I was forced on anti-depressants. They made me unable to function, suicidal, and made my life a worse hell than I can describe. A decent person would not wish that on their worst enemy, but no one listened to me and no one helped me. I'd take useless therapists over that poison any day, but maybe that's just me.
Instead, I'd recommend behaviour therapy. Those teach skills for emotion regulation and other things that actually help.

Like I said in my first post. Therapy is not necessarily wrong or right and nor is anti-depressants. Therapy didn't work for me and anti-depressants didn't work for you.

I would kinda say they're absolutely not poison XD Cause I understand the science behind them and what they do.

However I think this proves that each path is unique to the walker. What works for me didn't work for you and vice versa. But that is the doctors job! To help you find what will help YOU! And like Jessica said about therapists. Yea some are bad but others are good! Same goes with doctors!
I had to find a good doctor like Jessica had to find a good therapist, but when I did they helped me a lot. A good doctor won't shove pills down ya throat to get you to F-off. They will help you and therapy is one of the things they have connections in. Along with other stuff to help fight depression, but accept that it helps some people because everyone is different.
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FalseHybridPrincess

I know that feel

you need to be strong and indeed find something to keep yourself occupied
because as jessica said , if you re left alone with dysphoria it will devastate you...
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Umiko

no i'm not on hrt, i've been in therapy for a month now, my therapist knows and most likely will question me friday, and the passing out is from my high anxiety. imma try and see if i can start my transition in at the end of this month becuz i was trying to start hrt before i do my transition. i blame the fact is i'm more self aware of myself and becuz of that, my emotional standing is a lot higher than usual so instead of the normal jealous and pain, i'm getting cardiac shock type of episodes. this was the first time i ever went completely numb. but after that bike ride, my head is clear. at least i got some fun out of it and didnt have to worry at that moment
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Jessica Merriman

Cardiac type shock episodes could mean a aberration in your cardiac rhythm. If it is literally knocking you down you need to get checked immediately. Please tell your parents as soon as possible. A simple cardiac strip could point to a number of dysrhythmias. There are three that I can think of right away. Please tell your parents.
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Umiko

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 08:10:16 PM
Cardiac type shock episodes could mean a aberration in your cardiac rhythm. If it is literally knocking you down you need to get checked immediately. Please tell your parents as soon as possible. A simple cardiac strip could point to a number of dysrhythmias. There are three that I can think of right away. Please tell your parents.
dont worry sis. its probably due to a weak heart. idk why but my echos are always clean but yet my heart isnt as strong as other peoples. probably do to serious stress and my dysphoria has been hiding but doing its damage over the years. i'm highly confused to the point i got rid of all my mirrors ad even showed fully clothed one time. i tell you its a pain and though my therapist is awesome and understand, it just seems like its taken longer and my words and feelings are falling on death ears. i have to see what my endo says after my tests are done
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