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Gah can't sleep. I've been itching lately. And angry. I might abort the mission.

Started by Evelyn K, June 04, 2014, 05:11:05 AM

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Evelyn K

Sigh. Yeah. You heard right. I've been a bit pissy lately (like in the "I think I got clocked by a 5 year old" thread) for a reason.

The reason why? Well. I was browsing this tumblr below. And instantly things started to reconnect in my brain like clockwork.

http://johnny-escobar.tumblr.com/archive

Especially check out the stuff from March 2013 and onwards.

Oh yeah, some no-nudes, don't worry about that. It's images of dream cars, luxury apartments, money and power, no-nude girls.

Yeah I rant and rave against male privilege, but this is some seriously alpha dog kind of stuff to look at. Is it worth the trade?

I don't know. But I've hit the brakes.

Thoughts?

FYI I also posted the same topic in the F2M forum.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166361.0.html
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kelly_aus

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Evelyn K

Sure. But to 'get there' would be 100X harder as a trans woman, no? The odds are impossibly stacked. At least I feel that way.
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Sammy

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 05:25:57 AM
Sure. But to 'get there' would be 100X harder as a trans woman, no? The odds are impossibly stacked. At least I feel that way.

You are sure You wanna get there?  Lots and lots and lots of cars.... meh. Or was there smth else?
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kelly_aus

Maybe I've hung around with too many women who were happy, wealthy, go getters..
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Evelyn K

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 04, 2014, 06:20:03 AM
You are sure You wanna get there?  Lots and lots and lots of cars.... meh. Or was there smth else?

"She has the beauty and looks. He has the money and power. It's a match made in heaven."


Here's the thing. If you are a guy transitioning to female. What are the odds that you'll make top shelf status in the beauty department? Or bump a beautiful cis gal away from a wealthy man? Probably - 0. But the money, power, and male privilege aspect is tangible to that same guy, and can be worked on, now.
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Olivia P

To be beautiful means to be yourself. You don't need to be accepted by others. You need to accept yourself. - Thích Nhất Hạnh
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kelly_aus

I've just worked out my completely 'meh' attitude to this..

Money is no longer exciting to me.. I know that material wealth is a hollow form of happiness.

I got the girl.

I've been a rich man.. ($180k a year working 12 hours a week, 90's money.)

I've been a poor woman.

My life is so much richer as the poor woman.
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Christine167

Evelyn, it all depends on what you value in life.

Personally no, it's not worth it to me. I'm too old to be worrying about young girls and super cars that while cool looking are horribly impractical. I have other dreams that I want so much more and transitioning is at the top right below my son.

It's not a matter of realism of if one can do something easily or not. It's about having the drive to be able to accomplish something. If you the alpha dog life and to transition well yes it's harder but in an equation that is already in fantasy land then one should be aware that it is equally difficult to achieve that dream trans or not. So if you want it then study on how people are succeeding at getting that dream, model a plan, an execute it. That seems to work for me on most of the problems I solve in life anyway.

Oh and if you decide to go that route give us a call. I for one am totally willing to be photographed half naked on your expensive car if you're footing the bill.  :D
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Hikari

Quote from: Olivia P on June 04, 2014, 06:35:00 AM
Isn't being true to who you are more important?

This was basically my thoughts on it. I have had material things and power in certain groups and it never made me happy for more than a fleeting moment but being true to myself has a sort of lasting fulfillment.
15 years on Susans, where has all the time gone?
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Christine167

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 06:28:50 AM
What are the odds that you'll make top shelf status in the beauty department? Or bump a beautiful cis gal away from a wealthy man? Probably - 0. But the money, power, and male privilege aspect is tangible to that same guy, and can be worked on, now.

One this doesn't always work out for cis girls as when you are treated like an object you are often traded as one too. I've known too many doctors and businessmen who tire of their now not so young wife and trade them in for a younger one. Prenup lawyered up sadness all around.

And anything is possible if one wants it enough.
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ashrock

Honestly, wealth, money, and power you are looking at aren't exactly in reach for most men either. I personally can't see the point of a car worth more than a modest comfortable home that is easily within each to either male or female...
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Sammy

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Alainaluvsu

Hmm... I won't be top shelf, but I'll be respected as a female. I'll take it! Then again, I've never had money. BTW, I've seen some absolutely gorgeous women who have always been broke.

Maybe you wont accept that, but why is it so important to you?
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Kimberley Beauregard

Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 04, 2014, 07:05:27 AM
Take those money and power away from him. What is he?


Yeah, I never really liked the idea of being defined by my possessions.

I'll get a decent and nice looking motorbike one day, though.
- Kim
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Alainaluvsu

I think her beef with the whole situation is that she'll never be the best, so why go for it at all?

But in reality, it doesn't matter what you have if you're not happy with who you are.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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Sammy

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 04, 2014, 07:17:53 AM
I think her beef with the whole situation is that she'll never be the best, so why go for it at all?

Because life finally feels comfortable? :)
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Alainaluvsu

I didn't say I live by the premise, but some people are just wired to aim for the best.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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HoneyStrums

Its funny I saw a lot of in substantial objects, and some very curvy woman in those photos.

None of which I would want. or do I? I was envious of a bottom or two.
But as far as the male privilege is concerned I have wondered if it might be easier to achieve my goals as an activist? But it fades away quickly when I think of how much Id be giving up.

My only goal in life is to make life better for others by working to make mine better. The trouble with me is the more I have the more I give away. Having more then what I need makes me feel selfish every time I pass a person less fortunate then myself.

lol, But replace every car with an ornate dress and some extravagant shoes...???.

PS. I always ask myself why am I doing this? Truth is in man mode, all my future was, was a flat with a bed and Tv and an internet connection, and miserable depressing job (all job would be depressing in man mode) while I existed living waiting to snuff it, and I got bored of waiting. So I had to have this one thing, before I could want anything ells, because without all I want is ......... So its about life and fulfilment.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on June 04, 2014, 07:17:53 AM
But in reality, it doesn't matter what you have if you're not happy with who you are.
You can have everything, everybody but you could ever want, but without that one thing you want it isn't worth a thing.
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Alainaluvsu

Quote from: ButterflyVickster on June 04, 2014, 07:26:39 AM
PS. I always ask myself why am I doing this? Truth is in man mode, all my future was, was a flat with a bed and Tv and an internet connection, and miserable depressing job (all job would be depressing in man mode) while I existed living waiting to snuff it, and I got bored of waiting. So I had to have this one thing, before I could want anything ells, because without all I want is ......... So its about life and fulfilment.

My thoughts and experience summed up well.
To dream of the person you would like to be is to waste the person you are.



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