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**Trigger Warning** Trans woman brutally attacked in Little Five Points

Started by Xenguy, July 03, 2014, 01:23:43 AM

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Trans woman brutally attacked in Little Five Points
Patrick Saunders, July 3, 2014

"Video has surfaced online of a transgender woman being brutally assaulted in Little Five Points. The attack occurred in front of Stratosphere Skateboards. The Vine video was posted Tuesday and started circulating on Twitter late Wednesday.

A Vine user with the username TriAngle SquarE posted a series of Vines showing a trans woman in a verbal altercation with several people. The last video posted showed an unidentified man throwing the woman to the ground and then stomping on her head...."

More: http://thegavoice.com/trans-woman-brutally-attacked-little-five-points/

Video: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/graphic-video-shows-transgender-woman-being-attack/ngY82/

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SECOND crime against transwomen in my state. Seriously Georgia? I had faith in you........... Sigh, this legitimately made me wanna cry.
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Felix

The first time I was homeless, barely a teenager, I went there because I thought it would be a safe place. I was wrong then and I would apparently be wrong now. Also I had curbstomping safely relegated to some back corner of my mind, filed as a possibly imaginary concept. I wish southern states in america would stop living up to the stereotypes about them.

everybody's house is haunted
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Evelyn K

Video here:
http://thegavoice.com/trans-woman-brutally-attacked-little-five-points/

Why is she instigating whatever it is upon herself and not walking away?

Am I blaming the victim? Maybe...
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Xenguy

Quote from: Felix on July 03, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
The first time I was homeless, barely a teenager, I went there because I thought it would be a safe place. I was wrong then and I would apparently be wrong now. Also I had curbstomping safely relegated to some back corner of my mind, filed as a possibly imaginary concept. I wish southern states in america would stop living up to the stereotypes about them.

Same here, my school is incredibly accepting, I guess it was wrong to assume the rest of GA was like that.... And people wonder why others consider us less intelligent. :'(

@Evelyn: I don't think she was instigating, the vines might not have shown that the others had most likely called her out. I doubt she would've really just come up to strangers to yell in their face. Either way, she didn't deserve that. :(
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Evelyn K

No. She was outnumbered 1st. And she was probably on drugs 2nd from the way she was acting.

Not a safe proposition.

Pretty embarrassing behavior actually.
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Felix

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 01:38:12 AM
Video here:
http://thegavoice.com/trans-woman-brutally-attacked-little-five-points/

Why is she instigating whatever it is upon herself and not walking away?

Am I blaming the victim? Maybe...
Forgive me if I'm overstepping boundaries in my assumptions (I didn't check either link), but don't most transwomen have to contend with testosterone? It is an inappropriate biological cue for a body that already feels wrong for them, and it can make it harder to reign in touchy or black-and-white understandings of dangerous situations. I don't think I should read the articles even if it means I'm totally misinterpreting this, but I know it is really easy to overreact when one feels unsafe. No matter how badly she handled the situation, I assume she did the best she could and I can't believe that her gender presentation was irrelevant.
everybody's house is haunted
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Evelyn K

If they are medicated right T is usually suppressed to the point of irrelevancy, I don't think T has much bearing on flight-or-flight thinking processes which is mostly adrenalin.
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Xenguy

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 01:44:02 AM
No. She was outnumbered 1st. And she was probably on drugs 2nd from the way she was acting.

Not a safe proposition.

Pretty embarrassing behavior actually.

How can you assume that she would be on drugs for defending her gender? Even if I was outnumbered I would still defend my identity, I wouldn't be as aggressive, but everyone reacts differently to situations. Not everyone's going to handle difficult situations like the golden poppy in the field.

I'm not saying that her behavior was appropriate, but I honestly doubt she shouted to the skies "I'm a girl!" and 'brought the attack on herself' Even if she had, that's still no excuse for her to be brutally beaten for protecting her identity.
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Evelyn K

If you are that irresponsible for your safety in the face of a pack mentality, then I have nothing else to say.
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Xenguy

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 01:57:02 AM
If you are that irresponsible for your safety in the face of a pack mentality, then I have nothing else to say.

There were other people around, in fact, they were in front of a store, I doubt she expected to be attacked like that.
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Evelyn K

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Felix

Little Five Points is not a private place, and is not known for being conservative. I'm still not going to research this deeply, but I can't imagine any behavior that would justify violence. Maybe if she was threatening their children or something. All mammals get violent when their children are threatened. Was this a pack of mothers and fathers responding to an adrenaline-crazed transwoman who wanted to eat their babies?
everybody's house is haunted
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Lady_Oracle

I've lived here all my life and so sick of the discrimination and racism I've seen and been through. Goes to show Atlanta is not a safe place for us trans women.

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 01:38:12 AM
Video here:
http://thegavoice.com/trans-woman-brutally-attacked-little-five-points/

Why is she instigating whatever it is upon herself and not walking away?

Am I blaming the victim? Maybe...

SMH she got her face stomped on! NO ONE DESERVES THAT

Evelyn you don't know if she was on drugs and if she was it doesn't matter. The moment it became physical is when the line was crossed. That guy who threw her down is in the wrong and needs to be arrested asap!
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Evelyn K

Doesn't change the fact that she could have de-escalated the situation.
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Evelyn K

Disappointed at what? That you didn't understand my point about people standing around doesn't ensure your safety?

Did you look up the "bystander effect"?
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Xenguy

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 02:18:43 AM
Disappointed at what? That you didn't understand my point about people standing around doesn't ensure your safety?

Did you look up the "bystander effect"?

I know very well what the bystander effect is. But no matter how how she choose to react, it's wrong to assume the victim had brought it on herself and that she somehow deserved to be beaten.
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Evelyn K

If you shout at people like an insane psychopath you're not going to raise tensions and risk a consequential beat down.

Right.
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Lady_Oracle

Quote from: Evelyn K on July 03, 2014, 02:14:36 AM
Doesn't change the fact that she could have de-escalated the situation.


She could of been chased down. When someone wants to harm you they will do it no matter what. Trying to deescalate doesn't always work and a lot of people aren't calm enough to think that logically when they're in the middle of a tough situation.

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Evelyn K

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on July 03, 2014, 02:29:24 AM

She could of been chased down. When someone wants to harm you they will do it no matter what. Trying to deescalate doesn't always work and a lot of people aren't calm enough to think that logically when they're in the middle of a tough situation.

Well sure. But this is cherry picking possibilities. Look at the video, in its entirety it shows her continuously lashing out. The bystanders where giggling because she was obviously making a fool out of herself. Then somebody finally got fed up.
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Lady_Oracle

So what though! Are you saying she deserved what happened to her because she lashed out?
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