Smile, b!t¢h

[Jay27]

We can try to see which is crappier, but in the end, it's still a bunch of crap.   

Very well said! People will always counter that someone else has it worse out there, but that shouldn't invalidate your own problems.

[Hideyoshi]

Very well said! People will always counter that someone else has it worse out there, but that shouldn't invalidate your own problems.

That would be an acceptable point if the difference wasn't so stark as to compare a starving child in a developing country to a rich person complaining that their caviar isn't fresh.

Apart from the personal attacks that are being thrown about, I'm gonna stay on point. But apparently, I'm the one spewing vitriol.

Yes, we could sit here and argue about 'who has it worse' until we were blue in the face. I don't live in those places though, so I'll leave that work to the activists that are there. You know... the people that understand the culture and people of that land. Furthermore, the analogy of 'piles of crap' comes to mind. We can try to see which is crappier, but in the end, it's still a bunch of crap.

I'm not trying to attack men, and sure, there are some out there that don't behave in these ways. But there are statistics upon statistics that show this kind of behavior (as a generalization) has gotten way out of hand. And women aren't the only ones affected by patriarchal standards either. Men have obscene standards of beauty and behavior placed on them that can cause significant psychological harm.

I could go on and on, but really, I'm either preaching to the choir or people aren't listening. I'm done.

Personal attacks? Please.

But whatever, you can continue to have tantrums whenever someone compliments you. I'll just live my life knowing that there are those different from me.

[Carrie Liz]

lolz

Seriously, Evelyn? That is just NOT funny. Joanna posted a topic about getting stalked, touched inappropriately, kissed unwelcomely by creepy strangers, and you posted a video of a guy basically preying upon girls' fears about it and deliberately making them scared out of their wits by being a creeper just because he thinks it's freaking funny? And you posted it with the comment "lolz"? This is funny to you? Just wow...

[Jay27]

That would be an acceptable point if the difference wasn't so stark as to compare a starving child in a developing country to a rich person complaining that their caviar isn't fresh.

I was thinking more along the lines of: you tell your friend about what a terrible day you've had, and they turn it into a competition of who had a worse day. Everyone's problems vary in importance and severity, but that doesn't mean you aren't allowed to have them because someone else has it worse.

[PoeticHeart]

I didn't read Evelyn's intentions as to make fun of the assaults. I read it as though she were posting this video to show the true nature of some of the more extreme behaviors; I could be confused though. 

I watched the video all the way until the end (the guy is just down right weird and I'm surprised he didn't get attacked) and he seriously thinks it was a funny video. He even says there are 'better videos in the future' which really scares me.

[Evelyn K]

Seriously, Evelyn? That is just NOT funny. Joanna posted a topic about getting stalked, touched inappropriately, kissed unwelcomely by creepy strangers, and you posted a video of a guy basically preying upon girls' fears about it and deliberately making them scared out of their wits by being a creeper just because he thinks it's freaking funny? And you posted it with the comment "lolz"? This is funny to you? Just wow...

Seriously? In all seriousness, no, I think it's pathetic what the guy is doing, and he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

Remember I *hate* men. Just pointing out some typical male behavior highlights of today's 2 legged testicular pests and their entertainment there of.

[Nero]

Seriously, Evelyn? That is just NOT funny. Joanna posted a topic about getting stalked, touched inappropriately, kissed unwelcomely by creepy strangers, and you posted a video of a guy basically preying upon girls' fears about it and deliberately making them scared out of their wits by being a creeper just because he thinks it's freaking funny? And you posted it with the comment "lolz"? This is funny to you? Just wow...

Seriously? In all seriousness, no, I think it's pathetic what the guy is doing, and he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

Remember I *hate* men. Just pointing out some typical male behavior highlights of today's 2 legged testicular pests and their entertainment there of.

I understand your frustration hon. But let's try not to paint with such a broad brush. Most men are not creeps and are appalled at the ones who are.

[Blue Senpai]

Seriously? In all seriousness, no, I think it's pathetic what the guy is doing, and he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

Remember I *hate* men. Just pointing out some typical male behavior highlights of today's 2 legged testicular pests and their entertainment there of.

Please remember Evelyn that this isn't a forum where you can joke freely about sensitive topics like you would in other forums.

[Evelyn K]

Seriously? In all seriousness, no, I think it's pathetic what the guy is doing, and he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

Remember I *hate* men. Just pointing out some typical male behavior highlights of today's 2 legged testicular pests and their entertainment there of.


I understand your frustration hon. But let's try not to paint with such a broad brush. Most men are not creeps and are appalled at the ones who are.

No offense against you dear FA.

As to that guy, other men need to crucify him post haste because there's been a downward spiral in the news lately with too many angry guys taking out their family's and other women due to epic levels of beta-male frustration. These jack ass style videos are only helping to increase the thickness of our bitch shields.

Gontlemen - No, I don't want to be approached, or touched, and no I don't owe you a conversation when I'm walking from point A to point B.

[Hideyoshi]

Seriously? In all seriousness, no, I think it's pathetic what the guy is doing, and he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

Remember I *hate* men. Just pointing out some typical male behavior highlights of today's 2 legged testicular pests and their entertainment there of.

So you joke about suicide on a trans forum. OK. You put a video of an attention seeking creep in an attempt to paint a majority of men as such.  Sure that's fine.

My boyfriend and male friends aren't feminists,  but they also aren't creepy weirdos doing push ups trying to look up girls' skirts. It's easy to strawman males as bubbling caricatures. It's harder to actually approach people objectively.

[Evelyn K]

Is that what he was doing looking up their skirts? I actually didn't connect that.

IMO the average guy has to resort to manipulation and the facade of being an alpha-male to try to win over the women of their attention.

The 'pick-up' technique and learning sites are filled with males coaching each other on how to seduce us. A lot of it is actually creepy because the mentality stems from their belief that it's OK to approach uninvited, get in our face and start talking 'at' us.

For attractive gals I can imagine the frequency of these intrusions would get extremely annoying.

BTW: Who's joking about suicide?

[Aina]

Is that what he was doing looking up their skirts? I actually didn't connect that.

IMO the average guy has to resort to manipulation and the facade of being an alpha-male to try to win over the women of their attention.

The 'pick-up' technique and learning sites are filled with males coaching each other on how to seduce us. A lot of it is actually creepy because the mentality stems from their belief that it's OK to approach uninvited, get in our face and start talking 'at' us.

For attractive gals I can imagine the frequency of these intrusions would get extremely annoying.

BTW: Who's joking about suicide?

Then how would anyone pick up anyone, if we are all just maintaining our distances from each other? O.o

Also it is not just a guys belief - we are all taught at a young age - go talk with someone make friends.

[Evelyn K]

Reciprocative eye contact??

Here's a rare guy who actually has a clue.

[Aina]

Reciprocative eye contact??

Honestly I don't see anything wrong with guys talking with girls trying to find a relationship. I'd also like to see more women pick up guys.

We are all sitting here talking about how its "bad" for guys to try to pick up girls, yet culture seems to teach us that girls are not allowed to do the pick up line part. 

[Ms Grace]

There's a time and a place for it Aina. A little while ago I had some guy follow me into a park at night just so he could "talk to me" and clearly didn't see his behaviour was weird and creepy. I'm lucky he took "go away" as a response. I've modified my behaviour as a result, even though the park is the quickest way to get home I now take the long way round after dark. I bet he hasn't changed his behaviour.

[Aina]

There's a time and a place for it Aina. A little while ago I had some guy follow me into a park at night just so he could "talk to me" and clearly didn't see his behaviour was weird and creepy. I'm lucky he took "go away" as a response. I've modified my behaviour as a result, even though the park is the quickest way to get home I now take the long way round after dark. I bet he hasn't changed his behaviour.

Yes well there are always strange people, however to just say all guys are like that, and that any guy who comes up to a girl in a bar/ect and tries to pick them up isn't right and there seems to be an abnormal amount of man hate going on in this thread  .

[Hideyoshi]

BTW: Who's joking about suicide?

You

he needs to stick a gun in his mouth.

It wouldn't surprise me if one or two people reading this very thread have been in that situation but decided against it.

[Seras]

If it's not a joke you have a serious problem.

[Ms Grace]

Yes well there are always strange people, however to just say all guys are like that, and that any guy who comes up to a girl in a bar/ect and tries to pick them up isn't right...

Agreed, he was but one guy not every man on the planet. Many, many men are awesome, lovely people, unfortunately it's the ones that aren't that cause a significant amount of damage - physical, mental and emotional. Sure guys can try to chatting a woman up in a bar, but they also need to be prepared to take "not interested, thanks" as a an answer and leave her alone and not try his pick-up voodoo bull $#!^ on her.

...there seems to be an abnormal amount of man hate going on in this thread  .

Yeah, and it needs to stop.


This thread is in danger of derailing spectacularly - I'd suggest everyone not prepared to stick to the topic and instead engage in bickering just leave this thread alone or it will be shut down faster than some fast thing that is really fast.
Thanks.

[Joanna Dark]

That's my attitude, is there is a time and a place for flirting. When you're just trying to live your life, doing completely mundane everyday things like shopping or going to work or just walking around being a tourist, is NOT the time. That's when it just becomes an annoyance, when EVERY moment of your life has to be sexualized and seen in a flirtatious context. It's exhausting.

THANK YOU! The ironic part about alot of these responses is a lot of the same people will say how they hate men and men this men that eww, men. I happen to love men and just spent the last 72 hours straight with one. And what did he tell me? Wow everyone is always staring at your tits, especially old men.

Also, I'm not against flirting this or that...just not in everyday life when I'm texting, going about my day and just want to get on the train after a hot, hard day's work. That;s it. I'm also against some of the comments and creepiness that comes when you dont smile. There's nothing worng with flirting. In fact, I like it.