Quote from: Satinjoy on August 14, 2014, 11:09:12 AM
First, it greives me deeply to see my good friend Ativan's bitterness on the religious right. 50 purges later, in this specific issue of trans, I feel they are the religious wrong and have aligned themselves with the pharisitic element of Christ's day. If I thought I was excluded since I am trans, you would see this mind implode on itself with desperate consequences. I am conservative, and I believe we are not excluded. If there are denominations that do, so be it. Some conservatives deny the living Christ and His Spirit can indwell and manifest in us in ways that are gifts and unexplainable otherwise. IMO, because that manifestation happens with me, they live in error, and they grieve the One who died for them to be with Him.
Nuff said there. Wanna get me angry? Preach exclusion and delusion. Short circuit the heart of God through misunderstanding.
But these items are typically addressed and addressed very well in the Christianity forum.
Indeed.
But I see nothing religious of the self proclaimed religious right.
I live in Bachmanns district.
I have driven past the club house for the hate group she supports whose leader has made public claims from his little radio show that queers and Muslims should be killed.
They have recently vacated their clubhouse, nobody supports them as they once did.
'You Can Run But You Can't Hide' was all about and still is a self proclaimed group that uses the pretense of religion to spew their hatred throughout the community and they are supported by the leader of the radical so called 'religious' right in this country.
To refer to them isn't a reference to regions at all, but a reference to those who would kill you in their lies that they spew while hiding behind claims that they are a religious kind of people.
This very same group pays no taxes by claiming to be a church, yet none exists.
They hold no prayer or any other kind of meetings.
They do however beg for money and people fall for it because they believe they are donating to a religious group.
They are nothing more than bigots who say you and me and many others deserve to be killed and should be killed.
That is the religious right, to confuse them with actual religion is a mistake, anyone can claim to be religious, but when they spew hatred at every twist and turn, much like Bachmann and those who follow her, it is a grand mistake of epic proportions to even think that they are religious in any way or fashion.
The Clubhouse was vacated, because they don't have the money to support this band of pure evil.
A company that sells used office furniture has taken up residence in 1/3 of the building, the middle third looks like it is going to be turned into and '80's style arcade place and the remaining third is open.
I'm thinking that it would make a very good LGBT center, but I'm more inclined to see it a Trans Center instead.
Politics suck and those who use religion to base their policies on are dying out.
The so called community of LGBT has been divided by politics and as such isn't a community at all.
It's a label, a term. One that is used by those so called 'religious' hate groups and politicians who have no concept of the freedom of religion because they have no concept of what a true religion is...
A Trans Center would be appropriate in place of something as insidious as a radical 'religious' right hate group.
I have no time and no desire to discuss anyone's religious beliefs.
They are yours, a personal thing.
But when they make it everyone's business by using politics to further their cause of evil and hate, it's everyone business.
You all have all the right to any religious view you want, but don't push it on me, don't make yours better than mine.
None of you have any idea what my religious beliefs really are and I think many here would be surprised at what they are.
I've been through that valley of the shadows and won.
To make any kind of reference to my religious beliefs, you had better be able to say you have done the same.
Bitterness? They are the shadows in that valley along with many others who claim to be religious and use that claim to destroy lives.
To literally be in that valley and to be able to have walked back out of it after winning by becoming the very shadows that are there, as a way to survive...
There's a lot I could say about most peoples levels of religious beliefs...
Nobody knows the levels mine are at and where they come from.
Nobody knows the deepness of my convictions and how they came to be...
But I do know how the so called 'religious' right have taken the very term religion and ruin it for the world.
Much like they have ruined the word patriot...
I have no bitterness towards any true religious beliefs and what they stand for.
I have a huge bitterness towards those who stole the meaning of religion and ruined the meaning of it for everyone, a very huge bitterness.
Can I forgive them?
It isn't anyone's business as to whether I can and would.
The bitterness lies in that valley, it comes from that valley...
There are feelings that I have to deal with almost everyday about it.
And yet my convictions are strong because of them.
Where do any of yours come from?
Have they been tested to the extremes of life itself?
I earned my convictions, I didn't learn them by listening to anyone elses, although I have listened and do listen...
My bitterness is a part of my convictions and nobody has a right to draw any conclusions about them.
If you have earned yours by the trial of living with death itself and have stood up against it, then you can claim to know yours as I have mine.
Then you know how deeply a conviction can be held, and how it is found in the depths of your own personal hell of life and death that you have survived.
Are my convictions related to religious belief?
That's hardly the point, but my convictions about it are stronger than those who would use 'religion' to kill, to spread the evilness that they use religion for.
My convictions are strong enough to pick any of you up and carry you forward, even if I literally have to and can.
My convictions are that there is always a way to move forward.
I do this in my very personal life as well as here, I hope you know this.
Many things drive this in me and it's true that a part of it is bitter.
It just drives all the harder in my convictions of what I have a belief in.
Right now I'm leaving to help someone here to move forward once again.
To help them to believe in themselves that they can move forward in bigger and better ways.
They have a plan and want me to be a part of it.
Of course I will. I'm the safety net as well as the one who originated their idea that they can.
They want my conviction that they can move in these ways, they are asking me to once again share that with them.
How could I possibly turn that down?
It's partially fueled by a bitterness, it's true, but that in turn is converted into a happiness that can't be denied.
Ativan
