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I don't know what I am

Started by kittylover, August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM

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kittylover

I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....
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Cin

I wish I could give you advice but you're not alone.

I think it's perfectly normal to have on and off dysphoria... the key thing is that you have dysphoria, and you need to keep it in check. My dysphoria is incredibly erratic, and I've gotten used to it. I just look for patterns in my dysphoria, triggers and warnings and I'm trying to learn how to deal with them.

EDITED TO ADD : Sorry, I didn't read your first post in the introductions section. Had to edit out a part of my post.
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suzifrommd

Oh, heavens, you are far from alone. Most of us were where you are at some point.

I would suggest finding a gender therapist in your area. If you know of a support group for trans or LGBT, that's a help also. And, of course, stay at this site. You'll learn a lot here.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Matthew

Try not to over think things, if something feels right for you don't be afraid to try it. There's no right way to be anything and no wrong way, just whatever works for you :)
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Athena

One thing that I learned from coming here to Susan's is gender is a sliding scale. You don't have to be 100% male or 100% female there are many people in between. As Suzifrommd said find a therapist best if they are knowledgeable in trans issues and work with them to find out where on that scale is right for you.
Formally known as White Rabbit
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jaybutterfly

Quote from: kittylover on August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....

this is basically where I was most of the time since I was about 16.

1. We are all biologically speaking, made from half man and half woman in origin, there is nothing wrong with being a mix (it's how we're born, and we all started female anyway)

2. It's totally fine not to know what to do long term, I still dont know. Some peopl dont transition until they are in their 70's and are fine :)

3. You aren't a freak, you're just one of the more colourful members of our species. Black and white are opposites, but theres all the shades of grey, and all the other colours in the elctromagnetic spectrum, there's just as many different kinds of people in the world. Normal cannot exist when we are so varied, so there's no real need to worry about it, unless you are worrying what others will think (and that will only lead to unhappiness, do what makes you happy)

As a final point, you're in a good place here for understanding and getting that advice. Im newish here myself, but if you want to talk, Im here :) I know it can be stressful and confusing, but its ok to be unsure and confused, its natural

welcome to the community/family
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chibiStephy

Don't be afraid, most of us felt the same at the beginning, when I started my HRT I was like " now I need to wear pink, I need to be cute, I need to be really feminine" and then the time pass, and I learned I don't need to be a girly girl to be a woman, I like to Play videogames, do a lot of exercise, built thinks, wear sport pants, and do that doesn't mean I'm not the Woman I am, don't be afraid of being the person you are, be happy and do all the thinks you fell comfortable with  :angel:
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Casey Jaidyn

No u r not alone on this issue and this is a great site for answers. I felt like I was more male then female for months recently, then I found out I needed a hysterectomy for a huge cyst growing. I recently had surgery and now I don't feel the male in me at all,I actually feel more balanced in my body then before. Not saying do something like I had to do, but yes talk w/therapist bout feelings. Sorry if that got off track some.
Confused in KY  :-\
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Illuminess

What I know about myself is that I've always been far more feminine than a boy should, and it's manifested in various ways — some unconsciously, some privately, and some things I've reflected on and tried to understand. My mother has said I've always been feminine, as well. I had some boyish interests like ninjas, comics, video games, and even had a small period of time where I had a fascination with basketball. I never actually wanted to play the game, though. I just enjoyed throwing the ball into the basket by myself. But as I got into high school my focus went towards writing, music, art and self-expression through clothing (goth phase).

It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I started to really feel some kind of gender identity. I never really thought of myself as anything, and just accepted whatever I was called. Part of me sort of feels somewhere in between, but the female side is more dominant. I hate male pronouns, and I always hated being called "handsome" or "sharp". I'd rather hear "nice" or "lovely". So, I can't imagine presenting or identifying as anything other than female. I'm sure I could continue on as male, but it would drive me nuts. The way I prefer to dress would just get people thinking I was gay, when I'm really gay as a female.

Gender dysphoria is a pain in the tookus, but I'm sure things will become clearer in time.
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kittylover

for a few days recently I really felt like a boy, so much that I wondered if I was fully trans and I was in such a bad state of mind I wanted to hurt myself which is obviously not good.... I don't know what to do to make sure I stay safe but I need to do something.....
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Taka

first of all, you're not a freak.
we are many who can't really decide on male or female.

also, gender is not a scale from M to F with some neutral ground in between. i'm quite sure it's at least three dimensional, where M and F are just two points with rather high gravity. you can be close to one of them, right between them, or somewhere else entirely.

questioning is not a bad thing. curiosity is how we learn. learning is how our world expands.
never stop questioning the way things work.
you may be male or female, or both. but there are other answers that are even more fascinating, so just take your time and look around and inside.
stop by the non-binary forums as well. it's a nice playground for exploring yourself.

if you feel like hurting yourself, see a therapist.
i myself stopped feeling like hurting myself when i learned to accept my own body as mine and valuable. i can change it the way i want with the help of a medical professional, adjust it so it fits me better. but i only have this one body, so hurting it really won't be a good thing to do. my true self needs a body, and can live just as well in one that doesn't fit perfectly, until it is possible to change it in a safe way. i simply decided that i won't let something as trivial as my body stop me from being me. that would be just as dumb as telling a fish it can't fly, or a bird that it can't swim, just because it's called fish or bird.
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Kayleewantsout

Quote from: kittylover on August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....

I can relate to this, I spent a long time repressing myself trying to conform to society to my own detriment . It's good that you are reaching out for help so soon after starting to question your gender, I on the other hand spent 20 years without mentioning a single word to anyone, trying to figure it out on my own sent me to a very dark place, I almost didn't make it back . That has been a huge mistake on my part, I'm only just starting to seek help now and since telling my wife about my issues it's lifted a massive weight off me.

I'm currently waiting to see a therapist to help me understand myself, you are not alone and as long as you are reaching out there will be someone to grab you by the hand and help you through.

Since joining Susan's I have discovered a wealth of information from some truly inspiring individuals. Which in turn has given me the courage to seek help and given me a future I can look forward to.

I hope I have helped in some small way.

Kaylee

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Baiorensu

Quote from: kittylover on September 06, 2014, 08:43:07 AM
for a few days recently I really felt like a boy, so much that I wondered if I was fully trans

Doubt is a natural part of all this, especially when we're feeling down. Happens to me mostly just as I'm trying to go to sleep (thanks brain) and I just remind myself of how much time and energy I've put into making my decision.

Now the doubt reminds me that I *am* sane.

This is a huge, life altering thing; having no doubts ever would be like being in your own personal Silent Hill and claiming to not be afraid.

Know that it'll pass, and it'll creep back up, and it'll pass again. Finding some friends that can help back you and pull you through will be a huge help. This is a great resource but having someone more personal, someone you can text with for example, that has gone through it before might be more comforting. Local LGBT communities can be daunting at first but well worth it. As well as a counselor to talk to.
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Illuminess

I always have moments of doubt, and I think it stems from not trying to privately (or openly) comfort your dysphoria (cross dressing, nail painting, etc). I'm sure everyone has their own reasons, but that one makes sense to me. I don't really do anything right now. I want to wait until I have HRT in my system long enough to affect my skin and I gain some weight. Also, my "doubt" isn't really me feeling male, just feeling like the whole thing is too much and that I should just keep being who I've been. But then that goes away. That's just dysphoria, itself, being a jerk. I think trying HRT for a few months is a good way to confirm everything or to discover that it's not for you. I seriously need to find a therapist already. It's been difficult having no money to pay for it.

I guess there are times where the non-female part of me seems to be dominant, but that's really not saying much. Plus, there are two girls who live with me who are quite evidently feminine while I'm pretty neutral. I'm quiet and often reclusive. The contrast sometimes makes me think "what the hell am I doing?" I blame my Asperger's half the time for being so stoic. :P When I am social I'm definitely not like any guy I know.

Another thing that's been bugging me is that someone I've talked to since 2008 has become far more important to me this past year. She lives in Canada, far away from me, but we never go a single day without talking. We talk to each other all day until one of us gets tired. We've never expressed any feelings toward each other, but we click so perfectly. If anything was to develop between us I don't think my transition would be something she'd be okay with...not even if I was to medically transition as Androgyne. If she got online today and told me she wanted us to be together, but as I am right now, I'm not sure I'd know what to do. Things could go well...or not. Losing that chance would really hurt. I don't think she'd really care if I didn't consider myself male in my brain, but the body changes and presentation would be a problem. I know all of that is just projecting a what-if scenario, but I do worry a little about ever meeting someone after transition. It's like that crap people say when you tell them you're trans lesbian: "why not just stay a guy?" Well, if I identified that way I would, and I wouldn't be here writing this. I just can't offer a straight cis woman what they need. If there is one who is fine with my personality, emotionality and "alpha female" demeanor I just couldn't be there for them without bringing in my gender baggage. I seriously doubt anything will ever reach that point between us, but I've personally made the mistake of having feelings for her. It takes someone really special to cause me to lower my guard. When you find that you don't want to let it go.

Anyway, there I go again, writing a novel. One last thing — one of my very good friends, after coming out to him, also came out to me that he liked to cross dress. We discussed gender dysphoria and the difference between transgender and cross dresser. It seemed he really didn't know what to call himself, so we reviewed some videos on YouTube, discussed things further, and he concluded that he's fine as he is; he just finds it exciting to dress up and play a role for a while. One of the things I asked him was if he felt uncomfortable with "he" and "him", and he said no. I think if you experience no pain from those pronouns then it's probably less likely that you're trans. I'm not making an absolute statement, but I would think not liking those words when being referred to would be a primary indicator. But we're all different, so.. I dunno.
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"Despair holds a sweetness that only an artist's tongue can taste."Illuminess
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kittylover

just want to update on some things .Right now I feel like the only thing I would like to change about my body is my boobs....I really need a binder but I'm having difficulty getting my parents to help me buy one and don't really have my own money....I'm pretty sure I'd rather keep what I have "down there" then lose most of my feeling , which seems to be what happens with surgery. I'm actually starting to ask people to use they/them pronouns now , especiallly since at lgbt things at college they keep asking what pronouns I like.
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mm

Do you not have money to buy your own clothes?  You can start with sports bras some do a good job flattening your chest depending on your size and how firm they are.  I have two from Walmart that cost about $10 each and don't have much for a cup design in them more of a vest and do help me.  I am in college too.
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Tessa James

Good to hear that you are in college and reaching out by being part of LGBT things.  Hopefully some of these folks may have other resources or contacts for you to check out.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
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Polybun

Quote from: kittylover on August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....

Me too, I keep thinking about transitioning, have been doing for 2 decades... I always end up thinking, "what am I transitioning too and why am I doing it again?"  I don't really want to change my life, it's going well.... just one little detail....
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Ariel

Quote from: kittylover on August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....
I'm exactly in the same boat as you everything you have listed here has potrayed clearly how I feel and my dysphpria is similar yet I have far worse genitalia dysphoria. Just remember that you're not alone and try contacting mermaids too. It's a helpline for gender variant/ transgender people up to 15 or 18.
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Feather

Quote from: kittylover on August 20, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
I never questioned that I'm a girl until a few months ago.now I feel like I'm part male and part female or somewhere in between the two or something. I've started to do some small things like not wearing pink and cutting my hair shorter. I have no idea what I want to do  in the long term.  sometimes I have dsyphoria about my body , other times i'm fine with it. I don't know any other trans/genderqueer people in real life. I feel like a freak. I wish I could just be normal...I don't know how to deal with my gender issues...I need advice....I need to feel like I'm not alone....
I too feel part male and female, or neither (depending on how you look at it). That's inside, but outside I would rather be a female. You could contact other trans people in your area.. you are not alone.
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