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Opinion of MtF's & FtM's concerning androgynes

Started by RebeccaFog, August 05, 2007, 12:54:05 AM

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Do FtM's & MtF's think androgynes are wierd or crazy?  (Be Honest) Androgynes need not respond.

I accept Androgyne as a gender alternative.
64 (55.2%)
I don't really accept Androgyne as a gender alternative.
10 (8.6%)
I really just think it's a phase. A place of safety while working out Gender issues.
5 (4.3%)
You people are deranged. Please leave me alone.
3 (2.6%)
It's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity.
12 (10.3%)
Undecided
3 (2.6%)
Don't understand it or know enough about it to have an opinion one way or the other.
12 (10.3%)
I somewhat believe it's a valid gender identity, but don't know for sure.
7 (6%)

Total Members Voted: 41

Nicky

#160
Perhaps implicit in the slogan is that there is no choice - thinking you can make a choice will only hurt you (or at least Rebis will  ;)).

What a kick arse slogan!
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Hypatia

OK, I get it. The slogan is only referring to you guys. Thanks for clarifying. As stated above, I sometimes have a hard time seeing gender objectively because my own gender issues have consumed so much of my attention and energy. This shows the value of a forum like this, where all different sorts can compare notes and learn to see beyond their own individual perspectives.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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RebeccaFog

we should rename ourselves (androgynes) The Rolling Thunder Gender
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tekla

Despite all the stuff, even the TS stuff, with its SOC, WARPH stuff - and that's a lot of stuff there.  The simple truth is...

We're just all making it up as we go.

And if we're making it up, defining it as we go, if we're exploring, growing, moving, shifting then its never going to stay the same. The constants are vanishing, the frontier, the wilderness, the starless and bible black perimeter, the abyss are all growing and waiting to be found, to be explored, to be named and defined.  Andryogen is just that far edge, the people who are wandering into terra incognigta, who are stepping into the void and asking, 'humm, wonder what's in here?"

And its OK to do that, because we're just making it up as we go, after all. 

Though I do get for some people how life or death serious it all is, how expensive it all is, how painful, how difficult, how labor intensive it all is, for others here, it is a place to explore - and everyone begins in the beginning by exploring gender in some way - and for others its a nice place, or a fun place, or both, and we like to play here.

For us gender is fluid, shiftable, changeable.  Gender is not as much a construct as it is a construction.  We each are able to design our own blueprints for that, or we can accept the standard levit town model that society gives us.  But as long as We are building it, then we can build it however we like.  For some its a simple shift, for others perhaps the Winchester Mystery House, a never ending process.  Still, even if it is that.  It's still a way cool house.

And even if we are at play here, I can assure you that we only got to the play level after walking a long way up that same hill, and we, in our play, are just as serious as anyone else.  It's a hard job having fun, which is why most people are so frickin unhappy don't 'cha know. 

And for those who find a space to explore, how magical is that?  That this crack is opening, and there's a lot going on inside there than the old "You're A or B, and must be one or the other and the differences are thus:...."  And exploring is very serious, and often deadly work, so I don't discount that either. 

And in it being fluid, so are we.  Things are not the same when you 50 or 15 as turns out (at least you better hope it turns out that way).  I know where I am now, and have some idea of where I've been - and that give shape and contour to it all, but the meaning of it is still up to me.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Shana A

Hmmmm, I see this thread has come back while I was away.

Re, choice. The way I see it, I didn't choose to be who I am, but I do have a choice to either accept or deny who I am. I accept this strange gift, and so the journey is to figure out how to live that honestly, and also stay alive to tell the tale. Some androgynes seem OK with living as birth gender, I've done that for quite a while, and it doesn't work for me.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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RebeccaFog

for those who are still undecided, or who have decided that nonbinaries need more therapy, I direct you to this;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster

It describes me better than I have yet to do myself.
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Ell

Quote from: Rebis on January 01, 2009, 06:22:52 PM
for those who are still undecided, or who have decided that nonbinaries need more therapy, I direct you to this;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickster

It describes me better than I have yet to do myself.

oh, jeez. i like that.
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