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Opinion of MtF's & FtM's concerning androgynes

Started by RebeccaFog, August 05, 2007, 12:54:05 AM

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Do FtM's & MtF's think androgynes are wierd or crazy?  (Be Honest) Androgynes need not respond.

I accept Androgyne as a gender alternative.
64 (55.2%)
I don't really accept Androgyne as a gender alternative.
10 (8.6%)
I really just think it's a phase. A place of safety while working out Gender issues.
5 (4.3%)
You people are deranged. Please leave me alone.
3 (2.6%)
It's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity.
12 (10.3%)
Undecided
3 (2.6%)
Don't understand it or know enough about it to have an opinion one way or the other.
12 (10.3%)
I somewhat believe it's a valid gender identity, but don't know for sure.
7 (6%)

Total Members Voted: 41

RebeccaFog

Hi,

   I am trying to get a sense of how Men & Woman think of us tweeners & niethers.

   There is NO WRONG answer or vote.  It is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE to vote that you do not consider Androgyne to be a valid gender alternative to male or female. You will not hurt our feelings.

  The purpose of this poll is to determine all points of view concerning Androgynes.  We are working to define ourselves to ourselves. We have no vast mountain of knowledge from which we can easily learn who we are.  References are scarce when you are in the androgyne business.

   I know you all love us and you can be sure that we love you too.  Don't be afraid to vote that we are deranged if that is your point of view.


Love and smiley huggies,   :)


Your friend,

Rebis
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Kimberly

Quote
I accept Androgyne as a gender alternative. - 1 (100%)
So, that is the only opting I get eh?

Do I accept things I am not familiar with? Yes. An I certainly have no reason to think gender must only be male or female.
From my point of view an Androgyne has the potential to be far neater than any one else, however I have not known anyone who identifies as such that I am aware of so that is kind of a best/educated guess. This said from those I have met briefly the odds are not in favor of that notion, but that is more of differing personalities and differing opinions, I think. After all, to be Androgyne is to be human... (I.e. Diversity is grand, don't you think?)
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no_id

Hey Rebis,

Nice to see you made this poll anyhow. And, hey, it doesn't appear 'mean' to me! 8)

Maybe allow people to suggest more options so they feel less awkward voting if they do? :P
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Fer

Fers views:

QuoteI really just think its a phase. A place of safety while working out Gender issues
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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Nero

Quote from: no_id on August 05, 2007, 03:15:41 AM
Maybe allow people to suggest more options so they feel less awkward voting if they do? :P
I think we need at least two more options. The 'accept Androgyne' only has one option, and the 'don't accept' has three. We need more shades of grey here.

Some suggestions:

'It's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity.'

'Undecided'

'Don't understand it or know enough about it to have an opinion one way or the other.'

'I somewhat believe it's a valid gender identity.'


Now I normally don't include an 'unsure' option in my polls, because it's a non-answer.
But in this case, when you're trying to get an idea of people's opinions here, I think it'd be useful.
Because at this point, it's basically an 'accept or don't accept' choice here.
That's not going to give an accurate reading on the consensus of opinion here.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Shana A

I was/am M2F before figuring out that I'm androgyne, so I voted. You can probably guess that I recognize and accept androgyny as a viable option ;D

Nero's suggestion of adding undecided, and need more info is a good idea.

Zythyra
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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HelenW

Although I can't personally relate to the feeling of being either/neither gender I can easily accept it as a valid identity.  Who am I to say otherwise and negate someone else's perception?

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Kat

Not a huge fan of labels, people are people and should do what makes them happy  ;D  Unless killing people or something makes them happy, then they are a bad person...
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RebeccaFog


Hi,

   I added Nero's suggestions as they do provide for more variations in the answers.


   I want to thank Fer for being honest.

   
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Elizabeth

I only have the word of androgens to go by and what little research there is, but I can only conclude that how they feel about themselves is no less valid than how I feel about myself. Because of that, I feel it is a gender identity. This also has caused me to form the belief that gender is more of a spectrum than a "this or that" kind of thing.

Love always,
Elizabeth
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Thundra

Speaking for myself, I voted that androgynous peeps are deranged.
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tinkerbell

Quote from: Rebis on August 05, 2007, 12:54:05 AM

   There is NO WRONG answer or vote.  It is PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE to vote that you do not consider Androgyne to be a valid gender alternative to male or female.

I hope so.  I just don't understand why some people would create threads in a form of a question and get all defensive and rude when our opinions are expressed.  Anyway, I voted for the following option: (My personal opinion)

QuoteIt's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity


tink :icon_chick:

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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Thundra on August 05, 2007, 11:41:14 PM
Speaking for myself, I voted that androgynous peeps are deranged.

We're coming to get you, Thundahraaaa!   - twist on 'Night of the living dead' early graveyard scene.

Posted on: August 06, 2007, 12:21:31 AM
Quote from: Tink on August 05, 2007, 11:54:21 PM
QuoteIt's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity

tink :icon_chick:


good answer, Tink.  I appreciate the honesty.
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Jeannette

I don't really accept Androgyne as a gender alternative.
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Pica Pica

Quote from: Kat on August 05, 2007, 11:06:47 AM
Not a huge fan of labels, people are people and should do what makes them happy  ;D  Unless killing people or something makes them happy, then they are a bad person...

now your putting bad people in a box.

People can´t be un-boxed, understanding and perception are box-shaped. The trick is to find the best, comfiest and most appropriate box for what´s inside.
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Rachael

Expression form, not identity, its entirely valid, but i feel, and considering how my very good friend feels, its a comfort zone to them, (female born) they use it as a happy intermediate while they decided and work things out without needing to deal with the other transition rubbish. but thats just them.

R :police:
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Buffy

I believe everyone has the right to believe.

I can readilly accept that Androgyne exists along the axis of the gender spectrum.

Buffy
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RebeccaFog


Good work everybody.  Let's keep the votes coming.
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Jay

It's a form of gender expression, not a gender identity.


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Valkyrie

I would have to plead ignorance on this one. 

I really don't know enough about it, and I don't like to form opinions without proper understanding. ^_^

That being said, I have nothing against it.

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