Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on October 15, 2014, 12:35:02 PM
i've noticed this since yesterday but i've begun to feel weak and tired.
I am going to do my best to answer this without violating any rules. Mods feel free to delete my post if need be.
I have know people who have used herbals and achieved far more effect than considered possible by that method by the folks here. But that was also with a doctor watching their blood work. And usually with the doctor knowing what they were taking.
Anything in any quantity that can produce any estrogenic effects needs to be treated with the same level of caution that pharma-estrogen would be treated with.
What you mention there sounds kind of like estrogen dominance, potentially very dangerous. (If you don't know what that is you definitely have not done enough research.)
You also say you were using high dose phyto-estrogen, even the "safe/good" ones are dangerous in high doses. Certainly at least as dangerous as too much pharma-estrogen. That is to say, potentially lethal bad news.
Many of the herbals are not all that strong and some of them have serious side effects. Increasing the dosage to get a weak one to have effect greatly increases the chances of bad stuff happening. Some of them will permanently damage your organs. Some will permanently screw up your hormones beyond anything even an endocrinologist can fix. (I have read several cases where this happened to people) And more than accouple can flat kill you.
Be safe, don't trash your liver, don't have a heart attack, and don't make yourself so sick that on the cusp of figuring out how to be better from your dysphoria you make yourself too sick to achieve your dreams.
Sounds like herbal made you feel better, but the next step is GT/Endo asap, not prolonged self medication. (This is basically the camp I am in myself.) Even with the pharma stuff you need liver function tests, hormone level checks, and so on to be safe. This is at least as true for herbals.
- Jaded Jade
