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Started by samblack, November 04, 2014, 09:54:48 PM

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samblack

so my real name is not sam but it is a good gender neutral name that I feel comfortable using for this website.
A little about me... I'm 25 and I have twin boys who just turned 5. I'm just finishing up my masters (last semester then an internship and I'm done!)
I've been questioning my whole life.
As soon as I was old enough to decide what I wanted to wear and how I wanted my hair cut (5 years old) I preferred boys clothes (I stole my older brothers underwear because I didn't want to wear the girl underwear in my drawer) I wore my brothers old clothes and I insisted on having a bowl cut like him as well. Everyone knew I was a tom boy but what they didn't know was the joy I felt when strangers at the store would mistake me for a boy and refer to me with male pronouns.
Around 3rd grade I started to realize I was different from the other kids so I started ever so slowly trying to be more feminine. I wore skirts to school sometimes (surprise, actually they were skorts) I never felt like a girl. around 4th grade I became extremely unhappy and started becoming over weight.
fast forward to 8th grade when I started wearing boys clothes again and I liked it. at the end of 8th grade I cut my hair off short again.
Then in 10th grade I started dressing extremely girly. I mean, I wore a skirt to school e v e r y d a y. I had bright pink clothes, nails done, etc.
Then when I was 16 I learned what transgender was. I realized, wow that's an option??? I cut my hair off again. I made a myspace profile with the name Jayden, I made internet friends who thought I was a boy and I came out to my bestfriend as transgendered. I lived that way until after highschool. My first year of community college I emailed my professors before hand and let them know my legal name but that I was transgendered, preferred male pronouns and went by Josh. They were all awesome and accepting and I didn't have any problems.
1 year later I started experimenting with being female again. I started wearing dresses, skirts, leggings, doing my nails, growing my hair out. shortly after that change I became pregnant (19 by this time, and making really stupid choices)
When I was 21, my twins were 18 months old, I started having these thoughts and feelings resurface. I thought, wow I can't do that to my kids so now I really have to hide it. I started making some online friends who thought I was a boy and I was able to live vicariously through the internet. I was able to deal with that for a while.
lately the cycling has been more frequent; few months of strong feelings one way or the other. I've spoke to my therapist about it but I have so much else going on that it's been on the back burner. I understand that gender is fluid and that helps me cope knowing that I don't have to identify either way. However deep down I want to identify one way or the other and I want to stop swinging back and fourth. I've tried so hard the past five years to stick with being female and I've come back to identifying as ftm. I dream about just being a man.
1 year ago I cut my hair off again (it was all the way down my back and in a moment of bipolar mania I chopped it all off) I wear a wig during the day because I love having pretty hair. This is what is confusing. I either want to be a girl or a boy I do not want to be a "butch" female. I do not want to be a female with short hair. If I'm going to express myself truly, I want to be male. Being a tom boy or whatever isn't good enough.
I do like some girl things. I like doing my makeup, I like doing my hair, I like the way my wig looks. I like picking out outfits (though my outfits are not bright pink and girly, they are more of a tom boy look but they are all female clothing items). But at the end of the day I come home and I take my wig off and wash my make up off, put on male clothing and wish I didn't have breasts.
As I'm typing this I'm admitting to more than I realized.
Realizing that I could totally change my life by having a sex change is exciting to think about however it is also scary to think about and I think that is what is holding me back so much. One of the biggest things is that I have children, and they do not have a Dad in the picture. They already have so much going on in their lives that I wouldn't want to cause them pain or confusion.
I also don't trust myself. I can sit here and say I want these things, I want to be a man I want to have surgery, I want to be called "he" but what happens in two months, in two years? what happens if I accept it but then the other feelings come back? why do these feelings keep coming back? why can't I just stick with one gender? what the hell is going on and how do I figure it out????
Sam
-Confused ???
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-Grad student :o
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stephaniec

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Gothic Dandy

You're like me! Ah! I could hug you. I was never a tomboy, but did have a lot of similar experiences regarding my gender identity. This line of yours hit me:
Quote from: samblack on November 04, 2014, 09:54:48 PMthe joy I felt when strangers at the store would mistake me for a boy and refer to me with male pronouns.

Only you can know what your gender is, and you might never actually KNOW with complete certainty. You just have to go with your gut and do what gives you joy. I think that because you feel such joy at being perceived as male, it might be in your best interest to transition, or to at least try living as male and see how it feels to you.

Do you enjoy putting on makeup and such because you truly enjoy it, or because it makes you feel like the gender you're "supposed" to be, and makes you feel accepted? If you truly enjoy it, that's ok, because even if you transition to male, you can still express your gender any way you wish. You'd just have to deal with new social limits (if you don't want to be a butch woman, I assume you wouldn't want to go out in public as a man in makeup either).

I also have a child, and I am committed to making sure I'm the best parent I can be, which includes taking care of my own needs. If I lead an unfulfilled life and am angsty as a result, that angst will rub off on my kid. On the other hand, if I'm happy and in love with life... Plus, I want her to know that it's ok to be yourself. She's a toddler and will soon be bombarded with implicit social messages telling her what she should and should not be or want to be as she grows up. This is all my own reasoning, though--obviously, you and I are not the same person, and you know your own children better than any of us do.
Just a little faerie punk floating through this strange world of humans.
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samblack

I'm so glad you replied! as soon as I read "you're just like me" I felt such relief. For there to be someone out there who feels the way I feel about this, makes it less scary and gives me hope. I'm just afraid if I take time out to live as male and see how it is that it'll screw up my kids or put a bump in my career.
my kids lost their father figure (my dad) when they were 3 1/2 and then their dad came around but was really inconsistent. he came around when they were 4 and has stopped seeing them (just before they turned 5).
One of my boys has been diagnosed with autism, bipolar disorder, and adhd. He has so much going on, as well as his brother, I'm afraid of adding to all of it! :c
if I knew I would never revert back to trying to be female, I would just transition to male and be done and be happy! but one thing that is holding me back is that every so often I will start to have feelings of being female and "oh it was just a phase" type crap. does that happen to you? or are your feelings consistent?
Sam
-Confused ???
-Parent :-*
-Grad student :o
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Gothic Dandy

Your kids sound like they have a lot going on, so it's reasonable to be afraid. But you have this thing going on inside your head, too!

Here is my story. I'll start in the middle to avoid writing you a novella, because I write a lot. :P I hope this helps answer your question.

When I was about 19, and in college, I learned about genderqueer and began to wonder if that was me. At the time, I was into an alternative fashion style that had masculine and feminine subtypes, and I felt naturally drawn to the masculine type. I cut my hair short because I was resentful over a bad haircut, and to my surprise, fell in love with the short hair. Dressing like this and emulating a masculine persona thrilled me to my core. One day I caught a glimpse of my reflection in a window and was struck with sudden terror. It was a feeling like "That can't be me, I'm not good enough to actually attain that!"

I also had some sexuality issues going on, because I'd never had strong feelings for any men. Meeting the man who would become my husband changed that as well as my gender identity. I stopped dressing in masculine clothing because this man wasn't gay, and I felt weird around him as a male persona. I found myself falling in love with traditionally feminine domestic activities, like cooking and cleaning, and on top of that, I loved doing them FOR my husband. I wanted to be a good housewife, and this confused me so much, but I just went with it because I couldn't deny what I loved. There was also some guilt involved, because I had never thought of myself as a feminine person, and I felt like I was a traitor to the "non-girly women" club.

Sometimes, I'd think back on my previous lifestyle with a sense of nostalgia, but when I became pregnant (at age 28), I felt like a powerful lioness. "Oh, all that genderqueer and boystyle stuff? TOTALLY  a phase!" I said to myself. I am woman, hear me roar!

Something happened after my daughter was born, but I don't remember what. I think it was a combination of seeing the old male styles I used to love and being filled with jealousy and longing, plus some eerily vivid dreams in which I was a man. That led me into some deep consideration, which led me to reclaim the label "genderqueer," which led me to research transgender issues. For awhile, I'd had this concept of a "manself" which was just supposed to be a fun, silly game, but one day during this period he said to me, "Hey, I'm you." I put all the pieces together and they all made sense.

For the next three months, up until now, I did a lot of what you're doing, seesawing back and forth, and wishing I could just pick a goddamn gender, already. I tried identifying as non-binary (there's a forum for this here), but I was still having obsessive thoughts about being a man. "But what if I'm a man?" Well, try transitioning? "But what if I regret it?" Then don't transition. "But...what if I'm a man?" So, with the help of therapy, I said to myself, fine. I'm a man, RIGHT NOW. The thoughts went away, and my mind has been peaceful since. So it's only been a few weeks since I actually started identifying as FTM.

I still have doubts. I like women's fashion better than men's fashion when it comes to formal settings, even though I prefer men's clothes on a casual basis. Even though many of my interests are male-dominated, some are female-dominated. I've settled on the idea that I'm a feminine man, and that explains why I was never a tomboy, but I worry, wouldn't the world go easier on me if I just remained female? I even still feel like I'm not "good enough" or worthy to be perceived as male, like it's a dream too good to be true.

So no, I guess it's not really consistent. Like anybody making a life-altering decision, my head is full of doubts. But accepting myself as male does fill me with a lot of peace and joy for life, and that's enough to convince me that I should trust my gut feelings.

I hope that was not too terribly long and that you found it helpful.
Just a little faerie punk floating through this strange world of humans.
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adrian

Hey there Sam, welcome here! A lot of new friends to be made here who understand - the questioning, the fear, but also the happiness that comes with finding a little peace with who we are.

I don't have children, but I think that they can be much wiser and much more accepting than grown-ups when it comes to gender. I very much enjoy reading http://firsttimesecondtime.com. it's very encouraging!

See you around :)
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V M

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Devlyn

Hi Sam, welcome to Susan's Place! I'm near Boston. Finding out you're not alone is one of the immediate benefits of this site. Plus we're open 24/7/365! See you around the site!

Hugs, Devlyn
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samblack

Quote from: Gothic Dandy Luca on November 05, 2014, 12:04:31 AM
wishing I could just pick a goddamn gender, already.

wow that is very helpful. I can't believe there is someone else who feels like I do. I've been thinking that I'm so confused and mixed up theres no way I'm actually ftm. If I was I would just know. (the ftm's I've known have always just known and it's been a simple answer for them)
I'm so black and white about everything that I do so thats one reason why this is hard.
I'm so happy I met you. I'm so glad I came on this site. This is what I was looking for, someone to relate to, someone who can explain that I'm not just crazy.
Have you thought about how you will explain things to your daughter? are you her dad? how will that work? That's one thing that I'm nervous about!
Sam
-Confused ???
-Parent :-*
-Grad student :o
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samblack

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 05, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
Hi Sam, welcome to Susan's Place! I'm near Boston. Finding out you're not alone is one of the immediate benefits of this site. Plus we're open 24/7/365! See you around the site!

Hugs, Devlyn

Thank you!
Sam
-Confused ???
-Parent :-*
-Grad student :o
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samblack

Quote from: adrian on November 05, 2014, 12:33:02 AM
Hey there Sam, welcome here! A lot of new friends to be made here who understand - the questioning, the fear, but also the happiness that comes with finding a little peace with who we are.

I don't have children, but I think that they can be much wiser and much more accepting than grown-ups when it comes to gender. I very much enjoy reading http://firsttimesecondtime.com. it's very encouraging!

See you around :)

Thank you for the link! I'll check it out asap!
Sam
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-Parent :-*
-Grad student :o
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samblack

Sam
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Luna Star

Quote from: samblack on November 05, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
wow that is very helpful. I can't believe there is someone else who feels like I do. I've been thinking that I'm so confused and mixed up theres no way I'm actually ftm. If I was I would just know. (the ftm's I've known have always just known and it's been a simple answer for them)
I'm so black and white about everything that I do so thats one reason why this is hard.
I'm so happy I met you. I'm so glad I came on this site. This is what I was looking for, someone to relate to, someone who can explain that I'm not just crazy.
Have you thought about how you will explain things to your daughter? are you her dad? how will that work? That's one thing that I'm nervous about!


Welcome to the forum :) , I am new as well so eh. I am not a Ftm nor do I have any kids but if you want we could chat up at some time,
Maybe I can help a lil with the doubts, altho I am no gender psychiatre. As a mtf I had a lot of doubts as well, the same ones you have at the moment. Wherein I kept doubting myself and so on and so on.

Side note; of course you aren't crazy :D
Luna, the poet and the digital artist.

Pleased to meet you ;)
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samblack

Quote from: Luna Star on November 05, 2014, 10:29:13 AM

Welcome to the forum :) , I am new as well so eh. I am not a Ftm nor do I have any kids but if you want we could chat up at some time,
Maybe I can help a lil with the doubts, altho I am no gender psychiatre. As a mtf I had a lot of doubts as well, the same ones you have at the moment. Wherein I kept doubting myself and so on and so on.

Side note; of course you aren't crazy :D

Thank you :D we're buddies now. you may not be ftm and I'm not mtf but we sure do share a bond with the whole gender confusion thing.
It's nice to meet you Luna :)
Sam
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-Grad student :o
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Luna Star

not sure how the friending nor messaging system works around here though >_<
Luna, the poet and the digital artist.

Pleased to meet you ;)
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samblack

I think that because we're new we don't have access to those things yet. After we post a certain amount of posts (meaning, after we have been here a while) we basically earn access to that stuff. I'll add you as a buddy as soon as we can!
Sam
-Confused ???
-Parent :-*
-Grad student :o
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Luna Star

Luna, the poet and the digital artist.

Pleased to meet you ;)
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Gothic Dandy

Quote from: samblack on November 05, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
Have you thought about how you will explain things to your daughter? are you her dad? how will that work? That's one thing that I'm nervous about!

When she's old enough, I will probably teach her a little bit about ->-bleeped-<-, explain that I am transgender and that most women don't just "grow" into men as they get older (which is what her child mind will perceive), and explain that even though I'm a man, I love her and am proud to be her mom.

Even though it will probably make for some awkward scenes, I will always be her mom, although I will let her call me whatever she's comfortable with in public or around her friends. I also thought about making up a gender-neutral nickname for myself since she still doesn't call me Mommy yet (she'll say everything but that :icon_anger:). One time she actually called me Nonny. It was funny, cute, something other than "ehh!!" and had the added bonus of not being gendered. Not in my native language at least.

As for the doubt--it's true that some people just KNOW, but others have a mental seesaw. There are some people on here who are post-op, post-hrt, and still feel kind of fluid about their gender. For some of us, it's just a lifelong discovery. I don't know how comforting that is, but it should be something that's fun for you.

If you do a lot of research on transitioning and listen to stories of other FTMs, your confusion may subside. One of the ladies on here said that most of the people who transition and regret it are the people who rushed into it without taking the time to do more research and self-discovery.
Just a little faerie punk floating through this strange world of humans.
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Jak

Just wanted to say, "hi." I, too, am a parent - though to a young teen. I've always (we're talkin' decades here) presented as somewhat gender-neutral, but readily identified by others as a woman. I get 'sirred' now and then, but with these hips... For me there's less visible change to manifest (e.g., I've had almost no hair for a couple of years now), though I'd LOVE top surgery. The huge "ah-ha" for me was to discover the possibility of non-binary identity. I've never thought of myself as FTM at all, but definitely not a "woman." In fact, I've often commented that I thought straight women were an entirely different species. Now I know why! I also suspect that a lot of low grade depression/anxiety has to do with my unhappiness with what is definitely read as a woman's body. I've always wanted a more male figure, but genetics didn't bless me... Anyway, you're not alone!
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