Susan's Place Logo

News:

According to Google Analytics 25,259,719 users made visits accounting for 140,758,117 Pageviews since December 2006

Main Menu

lasers how long does it take to make it so that you facial hair not that noticea

Started by amber roskamp, November 05, 2014, 09:12:58 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

amber roskamp

Quote from: Alexis2107 on November 07, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
My boyfriend says it's a lot like getting a tattoo when I explained to him what it's like.  high5 for tolerating it.  My doc put it on high too... I found during the session it helps to just take your mind else where, like to the beach on a stormy night..... because with all that light flickering through your skin to your eyes, that's what it looks like!!! :)

the women with tattoo's from my support group said it was way worse then tattoos. I have several tattoos and they only kinda sting. does it hurt worse then getting your tooth pulled when it isn't numbed very well (happened to me as a child im hoping somebody else had to have this experience.)
  •  

Alexis2107

Quote from: amber roskamp on November 07, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
the women with tattoo's from my support group said it was way worse then tattoos. I have several tattoos and they only kinda sting. does it hurt worse then getting your tooth pulled when it isn't numbed very well (happened to me as a child im hoping somebody else had to have this experience.)

Well like I tell people, it's like someone taking bunch of sharp pencils and stabbing your face over and over :o --- for tooth, not sure...I am sure that's painful too......... but I can tell you this, it's not as bad as having surgery while awake with little pain meds xD
~ Lexi ~

HRT 11/5/14
Full Time woman 3/12/15
  •  

amber roskamp

Quote from: Alexis2107 on November 07, 2014, 09:06:17 PM
Well like I tell people, it's like someone taking bunch of sharp pencils and stabbing your face over and over :o --- for tooth, not sure...I am sure that's painful too......... but I can tell you this, it's not as bad as having surgery while awake with little pain meds xD

omg that really must have hurt!!!
  •  

Nevara

It really depends on how much facial hair you have to being with and how effective laser is on your complexion.

My facial hair never filled in, so I only had a little chin stubble and a few hairs on my upper lip and sideburns and by 2 weeks after the first laser session most of it is gone. There are still probably ~20 hairs on my chin that grew back and 2 stubborn hairs on my upper lip. I'll probably won't need all 6 sessions that I paid for. Would be nice! :D
  •  

Lady_Oracle

Quote from: Alexis2107 on November 07, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
My boyfriend says it's a lot like getting a tattoo when I explained to him what it's like.  high5 for tolerating it.  My doc put it on high too... I found during the session it helps to just take your mind else where, like to the beach on a stormy night..... because with all that light flickering through your skin to your eyes, that's what it looks like!!! :)

Thanks! idk for me it felt like someone was throwing fire on to my skin. I have super sensitive skin so yeah that's probably why.
  •  

amber roskamp

Quote from: Lady_Oracle on November 10, 2014, 03:16:29 PM
Thanks! idk for me it felt like someone was throwing fire on to my skin. I have super sensitive skin so yeah that's probably why.

OUCH!! doess it make me a masocist if i am still excited.
  •  

Ash

It's not too painful really.
Although in fairness, for whatever reason, I was proper writhing in pain on my second session.
The more I do, the less it starts to hurt. Have session eight this Friday.

It is kinda like a tattoo in a way. Sorta in a concentrated area of pain before moving a bit.
But it's not really too painful, except under my jaw I find a bit tender.
I imagine an actual tattoo on the face would feel like death  :-X
But it's over and done quick enough.
I usually eat properly, pretty much my pre tattoo foods before heading in. Seems to hurt less. Didn't on my second session and I'm terrified now. Probably makes no difference but I'm not taking any chances  :P
Love going in now. Barely any pain and the girl who is doing mine is amazing and lovely.

The only problem I've had is the chin basically and a little upper lip. Everywhere else is pretty much gone except for the odd single hair now and then. Just really stubborn on the chin and it looks like I don't know how to shave now most of the time.
Used to be able to grow a full bushy beard. Added about five years to me. So used to have to shave pretty much every day.
Can go pretty much a week or so without shaving now. And that's almost all down to the stubborn bit on my chin.
So it's certainly working  ;D

  •  

ElleA

I got told in my second session that caffeine makes it hurt worse and so I stopped drink coffee on laser days. It definitely hurts less, that could be a placebo though. Either way I don't find it painful really
  •  

JenLotus

Yeah I can't do no caffeine for laser days, it's a two hour drive to the clinic I go to!

Pain was awful at first but over time I can barely feel it anymore. Upper lip hurt the worst but it's completely gone there now - it's that pesky under the chin that's giving me trouble. I've had 10 sessions over the past 11 months. I will probably stop at one year in favour of electro for the clear hairs.
  •  

Jessika

I've been shopping around. Prices seem to be around the same so far. I have a 3rd place I'm checking out on the 21st of this month. Not committing to any yet until I get the best deal with the best equipment.
I may be getting my HRT letter soon.
Might be starting Laser Removal the same time I start HRT, don't know yet.
My Fantasy is having Two Men at once...

One Cooking, One Cleaning.  ;D 








  •  

ElleA

The best equipment in my experience is the gentlelase pro. All places that have these machines have accredited and properly trained technicians.
  •  

Tessa James

I had six sessions of laser that virtually wiped out my dark hairs.  Like others with some grey and blond i'm considering electro for finish work and detest my stubble.  I highly recommend a topical anesthetic (xylocaine 4%) 20-30 minutes prior to laser.  It can reduce the flinching reflexes and allows us to enjoy the fascinating light show in our brains.  I was impressed that the goggles and protective eye wear still allowed me to "see" lightning flashes.  My endo wisely suggested that I wait with laser till starting HRT as, for some of us, it does have an impact on hair regrowth especially on our chest.
Open, out and evolving queer trans person forever with HRT support since March 13, 2013
  •  

Eva

Quote from: ElleA on November 13, 2014, 02:44:01 PM
The best equipment in my experience is the gentlelase pro. All places that have these machines have accredited and properly trained technicians.

Thats what my real MD dermatologist uses, she has been great so far... Im going for number five as soon as I recover from voice feminization surgery.... She says six treatments should PERMANENTLY kill it.... I hope so, two months after number 4 and I do have some very weak dark ones coming in all over :'(

I will do six and then just have my electro lady take care of it until its ALL GONE ;)
  •  

antonia

I'm 5 sessions in spaced 6 weeks apart, here in Toronto Canada I pay $200 for everything under my nose per session which I think is a pretty good deal.

The first session was the most painful, especially the upper lip, it gets easier and easier as there are less hairs.

I have dark hair and fair skin, so I'm pretty much the ideal candidate, after 5 sessions the only places I notice any androgenic hairs left are the pubic, chin and upper lip. At this point I can go out without foundation but at the end of the day the stubble is quite visible.

Laser only kills hairs which are in the growth phase, at any given time only about 1/5 of the hairs are in the growth phase so the laser will kill aprox. 20% per session but you have to deal with the diminishing returns so at some point it makes more sense to get the rest cleared using electrolysis including any grey/red you might have.

Here is my plan in a nutshell, up until about the 14th session laser is cheeper than electrolyses per hair, then again I might get impatient, i only counted electrolyses on the facial since I figure at 4% there is so little body hair left it's not worth removing.


Sessions Hair left % Total Hairs left* Facial Hairs left Cost Per Hair Laser
0 100% 950000 30000 $0.0011
1 80% 760000 24000 $0.0013
2 64% 608000 19200 $0.0016
3 51% 486400 15360 $0.0021
4 41% 389120 12288 $0.0026
5 33% 311296 9830 $0.0032
6 26% 249037 7864 $0.0040
7 21% 199229 6291 $0.0050
8 17% 159384 5033 $0.0063
9 13% 127507 4027 $0.0078
10 11% 102005 3221 $0.0098
11 9% 81604 2577 $0.0123
12 7% 65284 2062 $0.0153
13 5% 52227 1649 $0.0191
14 4% 41781 1319 $0.0239


   Cost Per Electro Hair         $0.2333
   Cost Per Laser Session         $200
   Cost Per Electro Hour         $70
   Hairs Per Hour of Electro      300
   Total Cost combined         $3,108

* Entire body (w/o head), assuming 5 million hairs per body, 250 thousand on head and 20% of the rest being androgenic
  •  

amber roskamp

Quote from: antonia on November 15, 2014, 03:49:12 PM
I'm 5 sessions in spaced 6 weeks apart, here in Toronto Canada I pay $200 for everything under my nose per session which I think is a pretty good deal.

The first session was the most painful, especially the upper lip, it gets easier and easier as there are less hairs.

I have dark hair and fair skin, so I'm pretty much the ideal candidate, after 5 sessions the only places I notice any androgenic hairs left are the pubic, chin and upper lip. At this point I can go out without foundation but at the end of the day the stubble is quite visible.

Laser only kills hairs which are in the growth phase, at any given time only about 1/5 of the hairs are in the growth phase so the laser will kill aprox. 20% per session but you have to deal with the diminishing returns so at some point it makes more sense to get the rest cleared using electrolysis including any grey/red you might have.

Here is my plan in a nutshell, up until about the 14th session laser is cheeper than electrolyses per hair, then again I might get impatient, i only counted electrolyses on the facial since I figure at 4% there is so little body hair left it's not worth removing.


Sessions Hair left % Total Hairs left* Facial Hairs left Cost Per Hair Laser
0 100% 950000 30000 $0.0011
1 80% 760000 24000 $0.0013
2 64% 608000 19200 $0.0016
3 51% 486400 15360 $0.0021
4 41% 389120 12288 $0.0026
5 33% 311296 9830 $0.0032
6 26% 249037 7864 $0.0040
7 21% 199229 6291 $0.0050
8 17% 159384 5033 $0.0063
9 13% 127507 4027 $0.0078
10 11% 102005 3221 $0.0098
11 9% 81604 2577 $0.0123
12 7% 65284 2062 $0.0153
13 5% 52227 1649 $0.0191
14 4% 41781 1319 $0.0239


   Cost Per Electro Hair         $0.2333
   Cost Per Laser Session         $200
   Cost Per Electro Hour         $70
   Hairs Per Hour of Electro      300
   Total Cost combined         $3,108

* Entire body (w/o head), assuming 5 million hairs per body, 250 thousand on head and 20% of the rest being androgenic

Wow this is really, really useful. Its Awesome that you had such a plan
  •  

barbie

In my case, I used Tria home laser to diminish the hairs in my mustache area. I guess I treated more than 10 times, but some of them still grow again, although they are too fine to notice. As the battery of my Tria is already dead, I pluck the remaining fine hairs.

Before and after the Tria treatment



The left is in 2004 and the right is a month ago. I did not have so much facial hairs even before the Tria treatment, but anyway I had to pluck facial hairs by using tweezers once or twice per week. Nowadays, I just pluck once or twice per month whenever I can see some fine hairs around my lips at bright daytime.

barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
  •  

amber roskamp

Quote from: barbie on November 15, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
In my case, I used Tria home laser to diminish the hairs in my mustache area. I guess I treated more than 10 times, but some of them still grow again, although they are too fine to notice. As the battery of my Tria is already dead, I pluck the remaining fine hairs.

Before and after the Tria treatment



The left is in 2004 and the right is a month ago. I did not have so much facial hairs even before the Tria treatment, but anyway I had to pluck facial hairs by using tweezers once or twice per week. Nowadays, I just pluck once or twice per month whenever I can see some fine hairs around my lips at bright daytime.

barbie~~

I was tempted to go with the home laser route, but  I haven't heard to many good things about them. That being said it looks like  they worked wonderfully for you... I guess every one has there own experience with each product.
  •  

barbie

Quote from: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
I was tempted to go with the home laser route, but  I haven't heard to many good things about them. That being said it looks like  they worked wonderfully for you... I guess every one has there own experience with each product.

Yes. That's right. Even the skill of using Tria differs by person, not to mention the differences in the hair structure and color, responses to laser treatment, and etc. You may find out your best option.

barbie~~
Just do it.
  • skype:barbie?call
  •  

amber roskamp

Quote from: barbie on November 15, 2014, 05:48:43 PM
Yes. That's right. Even the skill of using Tria differs by person, not to mention the differences in the hair structure and color, responses to laser treatment, and etc. You may find out your best option.

barbie~~

I was actually supposed to go in for a laser consultation today, but It got cancelled... :(
  •