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if you could take a pill to stop Dysphoria with out changes would you

Started by stephaniec, November 14, 2014, 03:41:57 PM

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stephaniec

if science came up with a chemical besides hormones  that would leave you physically unchanged, but permanently and totally  blocked dysphoria would you take it or are their other reasons for changing gender expression ( disclaimer: not intended to be taken in any way harmful to any living entity, purely a benign hypothetical thought experiment, which some day could become reality .
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MelissaAnn

Personally speaking for myself I would not take it. My dysphoria has everything to do with my feeling and knowing that I am a woman in a male body. My decision to transition was not based on my dysphoria. Instead, it was based on my overwhelming need to not only think as a woman, but become a woman. I am so much happier since coming to this decision. And don't think I would want to take a pill just to get rid of my dysphoria, because it wouldn't solve my gender issues.

Jess42

Wow Stephanie. What a question and really something to think about. but no I wouldn't. I have and hate everything male about me. Not the genitals, that is just a deformity maybe? I don't really even want to change that though. It is the cards I got dealt and I will play them, no pun intended. Wow that sounded really messed up but regardless I am who I am. I deal with in the best that I know how. But no. There is a really big reason I go through dyphoria. Because my essence that makes me is female but the body is more or less male. So if I could take a pill that killed the dysphoria by changing the body to match the essence of me? In a freakin' heartbeat. But to change who I truly am on the inside to match the body I was given? No way.

I really don't want to get all philosophical, spiritual or relgious but the inside is our true selves. Not the outside. The inside, the true me, the esscence of me is who I am. Not the junk. So no. That would not be the true me. And the true us is what should shine through regardless of the physical body. If I have to deal with dysphoria to be me then so be it. It hurts though. I won't lie but I won't change the true me for anything. This is who I am. And I am what I am and whatever that is at least I am true to myself and that is the most important part.
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Auroramarianna

I totally agree with Jess. I am reading A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle, and it's all about releasing your essence to the world. I also remember the quote "The essential is invisible to the eye". This rings true for me, at least. Our mere existence proves this, no matter how much biology and science can prove the mis-match between our minds and bodies as well.

No, I wouldn't take that pill. But I would take a pill which could change my body to become fully female and have functional ovaries so I could give birth. I would love to be a mom.
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TSJasmine

I would probably take it tbh. I don't like being trans but it's something I've learned to deal with. If I could have chosen a path outside of all the money & tears, I would have chosen it in a heart beat. The only hard thing would have been finding a boyfriend because I've never been attracted to gay men.
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MelissaAnn

Quote from: Jess42 on November 14, 2014, 03:59:22 PM
Wow Stephanie. What a question and really something to think about. but no I wouldn't. I have and hate everything male about me. Not the genitals, that is just a deformity maybe? I don't really even want to change that though. It is the cards I got dealt and I will play them, no pun intended. Wow that sounded really messed up but regardless I am who I am. I deal with in the best that I know how. But no. There is a really big reason I go through dyphoria. Because my essence that makes me is female but the body is more or less male. So if I could take a pill that killed the dysphoria by changing the body to match the essence of me? In a freakin' heartbeat. But to change who I truly am on the inside to match the body I was given? No way.

I really don't want to get all philosophical, spiritual or relgious but the inside is our true selves. Not the outside. The inside, the true me, the esscence of me is who I am. Not the junk. So no. That would not be the true me. And the true us is what should shine through regardless of the physical body. If I have to deal with dysphoria to be me then so be it. It hurts though. I won't lie but I won't change the true me for anything. This is who I am. And I am what I am and whatever that is at least I am true to myself and that is the most important part.

After reading this, I now feel pretty stupid about my post. :'( :embarrassed:

MyKa

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Jess42

Quote from: MelissaAnn on November 14, 2014, 04:33:52 PM
After reading this, I now feel pretty stupid about my post. :'( :embarrassed:

Why Melissa? Hell I agree with your post even. I wouldn't take the pill either. But we all have our own paths to walk. So Hon, don't ever feel stupid about your choices. We all have our choices and what is right for one isn't right for another. We are all unique. We are all special. We are all just as important as anyone else in society. Maybe even more so. Poeple come to this sight for many reasons. May advice sux for some and some may find it useful. Your advice and experiences may suck for some but someone may find it useful in their own life. That is all we can eve ask for is to help someone overcome some obstacle in their life. Being transgender is probably one of the biggest obstacles someone can face in their lives. We all have some of ourselves to give in the way of advice or experience. So never be embarassed about what you have done. It is important.
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stephaniec

I doubt I would because as Jess said this is who I am and I never fit in the male world plus I really love who I am
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JustASeq

Quote from: stephaniec on November 14, 2014, 05:15:08 PM
I doubt I would because as Jess said this is who I am and I never fit in the male world plus I really love who I am

Hits home for sure. I don't think I could be something that never quite fit. Since deciding to transition I feel so wonderful I couldn't imagine any other way.
-Seq
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Paige

Quote from: stephaniec on November 14, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
if science came up with a chemical besides hormones  that would leave you physically unchanged, but permanently and totally  blocked dysphoria would you take it or are their other reasons for changing gender expression ( disclaimer: not intended to be taken in any way harmful to any living entity, purely a benign hypothetical thought experiment, which some day could become reality .

Interesting question Stephanie.  At this point in my life, I would really have to think hard about it.  I'm guessing I would take it just because dysphoria is driving me crazy and wasting so much of my life.  But it's such a part of me, without it I'm wondering if I would feel like an empty shell.  I know when I try to stuff the dysphoria in the closet, I feel very blah, nothing.  It's such a part of my personality, even though the world doesn't know, I just can't imagine losing it.  Does that make sense?

Paige :)

 
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Jess42

Quote from: stephaniec on November 14, 2014, 05:15:08 PM
I doubt I would because as Jess said this is who I am and I never fit in the male world plus I really love who I am

I really hate to say it even but this is what has made me who I am. Without it I wouldn't be me. So unfortunately or maybe fortunately it is one of the biggest parts of who I am. Would I change me? OMFG in a heartbeat. I would be the most beautiful, caring and compassionate woman alive. I would like to think I am regardless of my phsyical birth. :-\ But I would change the outside. Not the inside. The inside is the true me. Not the outside. The outside I could care less other than smooth skin, skin care regeimines, and make up, nice brows and so on. I really hate to say it because it causes causes so many so much pain but being trans has made me who I truly am. It is the biggest part of me and forever ingrained in my personality. Maybe forever which I don't mind.

But gawd my life sux. No trigger from this, your post, Stephanie but it hit me just now. Dysphoria rears it's ugly head.
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stephaniec

Quote from: Jess42 on November 14, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
I really hate to say it even but this is what has made me who I am. Without it I wouldn't be me. So unfortunately or maybe fortunately it is one of the biggest parts of who I am. Would I change me? OMFG in a heartbeat. I would be the most beautiful, caring and compassionate woman alive. I would like to think I am regardless of my phsyical birth. :-\ But I would change the outside. Not the inside. The inside is the true me. Not the outside. The outside I could care less other than smooth skin, skin care regeimines, and make up, nice brows and so on. I really hate to say it because it causes causes so many so much pain but being trans has made me who I truly am. It is the biggest part of me and forever ingrained in my personality. Maybe forever which I don't mind.

But gawd my life sux. No trigger from this, your post, Stephanie but it hit me just now. Dysphoria rears it's ugly head.
the biblical beast from the pit
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Tori



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stephaniec

Quote from: Tori on November 14, 2014, 05:46:38 PM
Probably not because HRT does the same plus free boobs.
I've found its quite fun taking a shower with boobs
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Jess42

Quote from: stephaniec on November 14, 2014, 05:43:52 PM
the biblical beast from the pit

Pretty much. But we all have to live and conquer monsters, don't we?
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Jenelle

During my first few sessions I told my therapist I just wished there was a pill I could take to make this go away. Up until a month ago, I would have jumped at the chance for such a pill.

Now? No way I would take it. This is who I am and for me it is pretty exciting! I know it is going to be an interesting time ahead but I look forward to every aspect of my journey, the good, the bad and the indifferent. Well maybe not looking forward to telling my parents ;)
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Tori



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