Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 4.0

[Just Ole Me]

I know I can pass with makeup but I'm wondering if I pass without as in the picture below.

Totally Pass!

[Sincerely Tegan]

I think it was the way the hair frames your face on the front profile.  With your hair cut on the first pic you can see you have a strong jaw and cheek bones.    Im the same probably, though in fact your probably much better at presenting than me,  I don't even know where to start.

You wear nice clothes and seeing you and others on this site really is inspiring for me to be myself too.

You have only been on HRT for 3 months?  Have you had any other work done on for face like surgery as your guy mode pic doesnt look too guyish to me.

No surgery, Joanne, but I'm flattered you think so. No, just weight loss, beard removal, and letting the hair grow.

"Strong jaw and cheekbones..." Jaw, really? Is it bad?

Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.



That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.

-Tegs

[Joanne Feliz]

No surgery, Joanne, but I'm flattered you think so. No, just weight loss, beard removal, and letting the hair grow.

"Strong jaw and cheekbones..." Jaw, really? Is it bad?

Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.



That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.

-Tegs

Crickey Tegs,  You look like a completely different person!  That's incredible! 
I haven't seen your before picture so i had no idea.  i was just looking at the pictures you showed on your previous post.
I take it from your employer and family know 



Im sorry if my comment makes you doubt yourself.
When I saw your first pic the one I commented on - I didn't mean to make you feel bad or anything, I was just trying to give an honest answer.  I think you can almost perceive a slight masculine jaw, check bone and temple.  Nothing like your previous 'before' picture though 

You say:

jaw, really? Is it bad

Just want to say that none of your facial features are bad.  Your pretty !
You should of seen the photos I sent off to dr chettawut for FFS, they weren't pretty LOL

Tegs, you mentioned that you hadn't had surgery.  I was curious about that because some aspects of your face are incredibly feminine and I wasnt sure if you had FFS or not.

In my case I will definitely need surgery because I have quite a large brow bone and forehead.

You come such a long way judging from your before pic.  Im truly amazed!

[sonson]

wow tegan!! you look so good, this comparison is amazing

[Angela suarez]

How can I post a picture and or change my avatar?

[Jessie Ann]

And in this one, you pass best of all I think!  When it becomes an option, sculpting your eyebrows will go a long way.  It's not to natural at all-remember, you are a woman; you don't need to perform femininity.  I think one of the keys to passing is not making your gender expression a performance, at least not an overt one.  This looks like an easy, natural expression-and it looks pretty darn great.

Thank you.  It is so hard to find a picture at times that adequately displays what you are trying to express.  In this one I was trying to look as natural as possible and it actually looks a lot like my male self. 

I am so looking forward to coming out and being able to have more than my eyebrows done.  I also want to get some additional piercings done in my ears.  My main goal right now is to get myself, then my family and then my work place ready for me to come out and transition.  I want to pass in natural mode, work mode and evening mode.  Because of my attraction to dark eyes I tend to go a little overboard on the liner and mascara.  But there are a number of women in my workplace who do also.  In my environment I don't believe it will draw any unnatural attention.   

I know I don't need to perform femininity but I want to perform femininity much in the same way I currently preform masculinity.  Because I have spent my 53 years of life in gender expression performance I don't think I am going to be able to stop now.  I do know that I will never be able to stop my going into the many characters (male and female, young and old, foreign and domestic) that I can mimic.  I can probably do over 100 different voices, mannerisms,nationalities and people.  I do a very good Marlon Brando (I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse) and I can probably do half of the characters on the Simpson's.  I can do drag queen and I can do queen mother.  If it were not for the fact that I have a job that pays well (very much needed when I had young children to raise), has excellent benefits and is very diversity supportive I may have attempted acting/entertainment as a profession.  I may still attempt that in a few years after I have completed my transition and I have retired from my job.

One thing I learned while going through counseling in my divorce is that you get to control who you are and how you act and react to other individuals.  I had some very mean and spiteful things hurled at me by my ex.  Why?  She was trying to provoke an angry response that she could use in the divorce against me.  I just laughed at her because she no longer had the power to define who I was and did not have the power to control my emotions.  I have the ability to now dismiss insults as being irrelevant as far as I am concerned.  I can't control what other people say or do but I can control how I react to it and how much I am willing to let it bother me. 

[Jessie Ann]

Anyway, here, for reference is a side-by-side. The left pic is from a few years ago, me at my heaviest.



That's my "so-far" comparison. Can't wait to see what the next few months of hormones will bring.

-Tegs

Fantastic job "so-far"!   I can't wait to see what HRT will do for you too.  Your transformation so far really is amazing as sonson said.

[Jessie Ann]

I feel like I'm getting somewhere finally:-)

You are not only getting somewhere you have arrived!  You look very much like one of my youngest daughters friends.  *hugs* to you girl you need a big congratulations one!!

[just ices]

http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl My face from various angles. What do you think?

I have been super conscious of my face structure and how it changed ever since I knew (4 mths ago) of the possibility of stopping male characteristics development by hrt and thought of how I could look like. I think I am experiencing a male growth spurt right now, at least on the face. Not sure. Maybe I just started to notice how much the face changes in youth. It is very painful to just watch

[VikingArchangel]

http://imgur.com/a/9q4Vl My face from various angles. What do you think?

I have been super conscious of my face structure and how it changed ever since I knew (4 mths ago) of the possibility of stopping male characteristics development by hrt and thought of how I could look like. I think I am experiencing a male growth spurt right now, at least on the face. Not sure. Maybe I just started to notice how much the face changes in youth. It is very painful to just watch

Not sure from your post if you are on/plan on HRT, but you could already pass, it looks like to me!

[MirnaMinkoff]

This cis girl is back after a busy few weeks.  Just wanted to pipe up I loved seeing how many beautiful photos had been added to the thread! 

Best to all of you!

[Jade_404]

This cis girl is back after a busy few weeks.  Just wanted to pipe up I loved seeing how many beautiful photos had been added to the thread! 

Best to all of you!

Yay! Welcome back Mirna! 

-Jade

[HeatherR]

Y'all are so sweet, I see glimpes of femininity, and loads of painted man face 

[VikingArchangel]

Y'all are so sweet, I see glimpes of femininity, and loads of painted man face 

You look good, though! Especially in that second image along the top - we're our own worst critics, right?

[RB.]

Full dose HRT for about 4 months. Sometimes I see progress, other times not so much. I'd appreciate any feedback though, positive or negative.

[Robyn37]

I just got my eyebrows done today, wanted to see how my face looked with makeup. Do you think I could pass?

[Sincerely Tegan]

Fantastic job "so-far"!   I can't wait to see what HRT will do for you too.  Your transformation so far really is amazing as sonson said.

Thanks, Jessie. I'm already on HRT. 3.5 months.

wow tegan!! you look so good, this comparison is amazing

Wow, Sonson, thank you. 

Crickey Tegs,  You look like a completely different person!  That's incredible! 
I haven't seen your before picture so i had no idea.  i was just looking at the pictures you showed on your previous post.
I take it from your employer and family know 



Im sorry if my comment makes you doubt yourself.
When I saw your first pic the one I commented on - I didn't mean to make you feel bad or anything, I was just trying to give an honest answer.  I think you can almost perceive a slight masculine jaw, check bone and temple.  Nothing like your previous 'before' picture though 

Just want to say that none of your facial features are bad.  Your pretty !
You should of seen the photos I sent off to dr chettawut for FFS, they weren't pretty LOL

Tegs, you mentioned that you hadn't had surgery.  I was curious about that because some aspects of your face are incredibly feminine and I wasnt sure if you had FFS or not.

In my case I will definitely need surgery because I have quite a large brow bone and forehead.

You come such a long way judging from your before pic.  Im truly amazed!

My family knows, yes. Also a number of friends. Work will know when it is time for work to know. 

I think I'll get a better idea in the next few months if FFS should be on the docket for me.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. Appreciated for sure.

-Teg

[androgynouspainter26]

Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look.  I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering.  Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle.  Passing is very, very important to me.  Why am I not doing it?  Is it the way I dress?  Do I need ffs?  Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame?  Please, please be brutally honest.  I do not need encouragement.  If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.

The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.



And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup.  Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this.  People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time. 


So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years.  Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%? 

[jessical]

Someone here mentioned that I needed to post more photos for them to get a good idea of how I look.  I figured I should probably post some photos of me that aren't so flattering.  Like all of us, I look ok from certain angles-but here are some photos of what I look like when I'm not trying to make sure the camera is at the correct angle.  Passing is very, very important to me.  Why am I not doing it?  Is it the way I dress?  Do I need ffs?  Or, is it something I can't change, like my hair or my frame?  Please, please be brutally honest.  I do not need encouragement.  If I'm not going to be able to pull it off, please tell me while there's still time for me to plan my detransition before I graduate from collage.

The first two are a front and profile of me in crappy lighting without makeup, without doing my hair, or anything.



And, this one is just me in what I wore to the mall yesterday, in full makeup.  Yeah, my hair is a mess...it's always like this.  People were staring at me left and right yesterday, I'm sure I was being clocked a lot of the time. 


So, honestly-I've been on hrt for two years.  Am I ever going to be able to really, actually pass 100%?

In other posts I have said you are beautiful, hot actually, and I stand by that.  However, seeing more of your hair, I understand the stares.  It's just a bit wild.  Especially with the color.  I don't think you are being clocked at all.  I think they see a beautiful young women with wild and crazy hair.  I do like your hair, but if you toned it down the stares would go away.

[androgynouspainter26]

Pfft, no I'm not offended.  I hate it, it's gotten really old.  I'm trying to grow it out.  It'll mean looking really dreadful for a few years though until it begins to obey the laws of gravity.