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Wanting to avoid certain thoughts

Started by redhot1, December 05, 2014, 11:58:27 PM

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redhot1

I was just in here reading posts by others and i think to myself, "hey maybe something is possibly going on with me" as some things I read here. I still need to do more soul searching yet. I was born a guy still am, i was always more boyish than girly as a little one. Even though these thoughts of being a woman pop in only once in a while so far, I feel kind of like not wanting to think about it. Also if i were to transition i am not sure i would be able to because of my limitations (economic, Adams apple, body hair). I know that i don't really want to look a certain way,as most women look beautiful in their own way. I need to start meditating myself so i can open myself up more. But when i made my first few posts i was still more skeptical about my questioning. It is based on a preference of having a female body nor so much discomfort. I just how my questioning doesn't turn over time into full blown pain. I show my support for those here going through their dysphoria pain.

The reason why i don't want to think about being trans sometimes is because i feel like i need to focus on more male pursuits. For example I want to workout at the gym for a chiseled ripped male physique.
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androgynouspainter26

Redhot,

I keep telling peopl this and you are no exception: There is no wrong way to be trans, or to experience dysphoria.  For some people, it's a drawn-out, agonizing pain.  For others, it's just a discomfort that comes and goes-or, isn't bad at all unless they're around others, or anything else really.  For some, it's just a matter of which body they'd prefer.  I feel like so many of us fall prey to this foolish idea that in order to be trans, someone must know from the day they were born, must constantly think about changing their body, must be suicidal before they consider transitioning, must pass, and must ALWAYS be stereotypically "feminine".  If you did transition, for example, going to the gym and exercising is something you could still do.  Manly pursuits and womanly pursuits-the distinction is all in your head.  The sooner you start looking at things in terms of what you want, independent of what people are telling you to be, the sooner you will find some good answers.

I am going to say this: Cis people don't want to have a body belonging to the opposite sex.  If you'd prefer to have a female body (and prefer is as strong as it needs to be), you are most likely a trans woman.  What you do about that is absolutely up to you, and again, remember: There is no wrong way to be trans!  You can choose to wear whatever you want, have or not have whatever surgeries you'd like, take or not take hormones.  All of this needs to be an individual choice made independently of any outside pressures.  You probably are trans hon...but what happens from here is entirely up to you!  I hope this has helped a bit...
My gender problem isn't half as bad as society's.  Although mine is still pretty bad.
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JoanneB

I'll second AndrogynousPainter.

It is sort of ironic seeing time and time again binary rule bound logic being applied by trans people to themselves. What portion is simple fantasy, what is reality. People can even become obsessed over their fantasies. What-ifing life as the opposite gender can simply be that.   

Gender Dysphoria simply means you just don't feel right being your birth gender. Which is NOT an automatic I have to change teams and start living as the opposite gender. It could just stop at "I wonder what if...", or occasional cross-dressing, or various degrees of transexualism from just wishing you had a female body to actually having one.

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Rachel

I agree 100%, trans* is a spectrum as well as transition is individually tailored.  I do not know your age but as you age your T will drop, it is natural. When that happens you may develop dysphoria. Although, everyone is different and  transgender is 1 in 250 and transsexual is more rare. A gender therapist may help you sort out how you feel and what you want to do.

When I was in my twenties I use to lift and I had a lot of muscle. For example or my 6th set of a reverse pyramid I was benching 300 pounds. I was very muscular and woman acquaintances would come up to me and touch my arms and shoulders. I really hate being touched.

Lifting made me feel good, not about my body, but chemically I got calm and felt good from something associated physiologically. Then again after lifting we would drink and do some drugs so perhaps it was that too.
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jasellebelle

Redhot,

I am at the exact point in my life as you are. Especially with the gym ;D. I mentioned in one of my posts, I wish I could be male or female whenever I wanted to be; just morph my body to my mood for the day. Some days I want to hit the gym hard and others, I dont want any muscle and lose motivation to workout. It is confusing for sure. I agree with the above posts saying there are different degrees of the dysphoria. I am doing some soul searching of my own to make sense of this uncertain mind of mine.
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redhot1

Funny how I'm slowly starting to relate to the other posters on here.

It's like, strong muscular male bodies appeal to me and I want to be just like that image, but on the other hand, I bet women require less intense maintenance in the gym. I'm not muscular, I'm a skinny guy, I'm currently finding my efforts to build muscle hard.
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ChrissyChips

When I first started to seriously look into transitioning I came across a lot of those posts on various forums that try to attach certain rules to being trans.

If you didn't know 3 seconds after you were born you're not a REAL trans.
If you haven't attempted suicide at least three times you're not a REAL trans.
If you ever pee standing up...if you can look at yourself in the mirror without screaming etc etc.

Ok, they were a little exaggerated (but not much), you get the idea though.  And reading those things put a lot of doubt in my mind. Personally I don't even really remember my childhood and I could probably continue to live as a male, just a damned miserable one.

As androgynouspainter said, the very fact that you would prefer a female body, the fact that you are even questioning suggest you are somewhere in that broad transgender spectrum. Where in that spectrum and what you will do about it is something only you can discover.  But there's no rush, as other people have said in various threads here, take little steps and see how each step feels.

As for your 'limitations',economic, Adams apple, body hair, I'll repeat some advice I saw somewhere;
Take a good look at these 'reasons' for not transitioning and you'll see they're not reasons at all, they are excuses.  Well it was something like that anyway, lol, I have a totally crap memory :D
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redhot1

Well now I know I must be going somewhere with this. Everyone is right, if I can question my gender, I may be somewhere on the spectrum.
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airamyb

I really connect with this topic, I find myself constantly evading dysphoric throughts brought about by  too few distractions. I try to repress, dimiss, avoid and almost succumb to my preference for a female body one day and feel at home as a guy the next. There is no trigger to my feminine side, its just always there, stronger at times than others. Right now I am taking half measures like getting down similar weight for a woman with my frame size and height hoping to appease my inner woman.

But dysphoria ts always there, and I am in the process of determining how to stop avioding my thoughts and how to integrate them into my life. I wish you well redhot, good luck on your journey.
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redhot1

Now I'm starting to have doubts of being trans, I guess if I had no doubt, I wouldn't have back-and-forth phases where in one phase I rarely, if ever, think about it. I tend to get fascinated by different subjects pretty easily too.
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JoanneB

Quote from: redhot1 on December 27, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
... I tend to get fascinated by different subjects pretty easily too.
I believe I speak for everyone here when I say that this is NOT a subject you want to be fascinated by!  :o  If I had a choice I'd rather be spending all this energy on ancient Greek mythology these past 6 years
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Rachel

Transitioning is something that is done out of a deep seated need and not a fascination.

There is a lot of personal growth required to transition and you risk losing everything and everyone important to you.

If a non trans* transitions eventually they will regret what they have done and will be trapped in the wrong body. In essence they then will be trans*

HRT  5-28-2013
FT   11-13-2015
FFS   9-16-2016 -Spiegel
GCS 11-15-2016 - McGinn
Hair Grafts 3-20-2017 - Cooley
Voice therapy start 3-2017 - Reene Blaker
Labiaplasty 5-15-2017 - McGinn
BA 7-12-2017 - McGinn
Hair grafts 9-25-2017 Dr.Cooley
Sataloff Cricothyroid subluxation and trachea shave12-11-2017
Dr. McGinn labiaplasty, hood repair, scar removal, graph repair and bottom of  vagina finished. urethra repositioned. 4-4-2018
Dr. Sataloff Glottoplasty 5-14-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal in office procedure 10-22-2018
Dr. McGinn vaginal revision 2 4-3-2019 Bottom of vagina closed off, fat injected into the labia and urethra repositioned.
Dr. Thomas in 2020 FEMLAR
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JoanneB

Quote from: Hanazono on December 28, 2014, 07:08:05 AM
*cough cough cough* you may wish to google what the euphemism "Interest in Greek Culture " is. I nearly spilled my coffee
I don't have to. This country gal grew up in the shadow of NYC just a short subway ride away
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