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Do we all have clitoris/penis?

Started by asiangurliee, August 18, 2007, 02:00:43 PM

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mm

Physically I don't see how it would be possible for a surgeon to construct a vagina in someone how was born with normal male parts and still keep the penis operational.  The urethra and penis inside their body where the vagina would go makes it impossible to construct the vagina. The amount of skin present to use as vaginal lining is not the problem.  For the ftm person the metoidioplasty procedure can be use to get them a small but useable penis to even pee with.  So the ftm person could have both - vagina/penis.
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Ender

Quote from: mm on September 06, 2011, 02:51:12 PM
Physically I don't see how it would be possible for a surgeon to construct a vagina in someone how was born with normal male parts and still keep the penis operational.  The urethra and penis inside their body where the vagina would go makes it impossible to construct the vagina. The amount of skin present to use as vaginal lining is not the problem.  For the ftm person the metoidioplasty procedure can be use to get them a small but useable penis to even pee with.  So the ftm person could have both - vagina/penis.



I dunno, given the space between the rectum and urethra (internal portion) on the male figure, it might be feasible; the vaginal opening would be located behind the scrotum.  It doesn't look like the penis itself would necessarily be in the way, internally or externally, but I'm no surgeon.  The urethra might be made vulnerable, due to its proximity to the proposed vaginal opening, but this is just a guess based on what I've read about metoidioplasty (below).  Maybe it wouldn't be an issue since the urethra is already formed, with no anastomosis (join or 'weak point') that comes with meta urethral lengthening.  I've not heard of anyone who has had this type of surgery, but would be curious to know if it has been ever been attempted.

In metoidioplasty, some surgeons will perform urethral extension to the tip of the penis while keeping the vagina intact; however, they warn that doing so carries an increased risk of urethral complications versus doing urethral extension with vaginectomy.  Of course, there is Dr. Bowers, who performs ring meta and states directly on her site that she "prefer(s) the ring over other metas with urinary hook-up because it does NOT require vaginectomy" though it "nearly (but not completely) obliterates the vagina."  In speaking with guys who have had this done, it sounds as though she leaves a very small hole; dunno if penetration would be possible.
"Be it life or death, we crave only reality"  -Thoreau
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symempathy

Quote from: Ender on September 06, 2011, 09:56:08 PM


I dunno, given the space between the rectum and urethra (internal portion) on the male figure, it might be feasible; the vaginal opening would be located behind the scrotum.  It doesn't look like the penis itself would necessarily be in the way, internally or externally, but I'm no surgeon.  The urethra might be made vulnerable, due to its proximity to the proposed vaginal opening, but this is just a guess based on what I've read about metoidioplasty (below).  Maybe it wouldn't be an issue since the urethra is already formed, with no anastomosis (join or 'weak point') that comes with meta urethral lengthening.  I've not heard of anyone who has had this type of surgery, but would be curious to know if it has been ever been attempted.

In metoidioplasty, some surgeons will perform urethral extension to the tip of the penis while keeping the vagina intact; however, they warn that doing so carries an increased risk of urethral complications versus doing urethral extension with vaginectomy.  Of course, there is Dr. Bowers, who performs ring meta and states directly on her site that she "prefer(s) the ring over other metas with urinary hook-up because it does NOT require vaginectomy" though it "nearly (but not completely) obliterates the vagina."  In speaking with guys who have had this done, it sounds as though she leaves a very small hole; dunno if penetration would be possible.

Thank you for posting both genders' anatomy for comparison.
I don't know how metoidioplasty affects urethra function in ftm. From anatomy alone, I also think that penetration would be very difficult if not impossible. From what I see, the penis itself is not the problem; the erectile tissue of the penis is.
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Rebekah with a K-A-H

Quote from: Amazon D on September 05, 2011, 01:58:15 PM
She didn't have them internally from birth. She had them MOVED too INTERNALLY during her GRS surgery to preserve her male sex drive and male orgasm..

And the risk of developing testicular cancer that would be undetectable would be equivalent, making the operation needlessly risky in the long run.
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