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Ignorance is not bliss

Started by Hunter.Ian, February 22, 2015, 01:59:02 AM

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Hunter.Ian

So I had something happen to me in my life that's made me take a second look at myself, and I was not proud of what I saw. I was out at a community event with a friend and was chatting with some of the people I had met there. My friend wasn't with me at the time, and I was being a social butterfly saying hi to as many people as I could. One person I met I eventually realized was transgendered, and it made me very uncomfortable. I'm a bit ashamed to admit that I ended our conversation rather abruptly and walked away. I wasn't rude, but the person made me uncomfortable and I walked away with just the barest of explanations given.

Afterwards, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Why did I act that way? This person hadn't done anything that should make me feel the way I did about them, yet there I was avoiding them. I felt the way I did about them based solely on their gender identity. It bothered me, because that's not the type of person I want to be.

I'm here because I believe that everbody deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, no matter who they are. I don't like that my reaction to meeting a transgendered person was something uncomfortable. I feel it's dehumanizing in a way to look at someone and the only thing I saw was their gender, I want to be better than that.

I recognize that my reaction comes from a place of ignorance. I am ignorant of the transgender community to the point that when face to face with a transgender person I saw only their gender and not their humanity. For that I want to apologize. In an effort to better myself, I would like to get to know some of the people here.

I'm hoping that by getting to know everyone here I can
connect with the transgendered community. I don't want to feel uncomfortable if I find myself talking to someone who is transgendered. I want to be able to connect and empathize with them as I would any other person, but that's not going to happen if I don't understand them.

So hello everyone, my name is Hunter. I'm not very good at these introduction things and I feel a bit silly explaining all that, but I think it's important to let you all know why I'm here.
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StrykerXIII

This is good. It's always nice to see someone who isn't trans looking to find understanding after an experience like that. You didn't just sign it off as "I obviously don't like trans people, whatever". You saw it as "I was uncomfortable, and that's not okay". I'm glad to make your acquaintance, Hunter. The world needs more people like you.
To strive to reach the apex of evolution is folly, for to achieve the pinnacle is to birth a god.

When the Stryker fires, all turn to dust in its wake.
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AnonyMs

You're not very good at these introduction things?

I have to say I think its extremely well written and structured. It would have taken me hours to write that.

Hi
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Sunderland

I want to give you a giant hug for being so honest with yourself and seeking to improve your understanding of others. It shows that you are someone with a very good heart.

Warmest greetings to you, Hunter. You can call me Sunny. Don't worry, us trans folks aren't really that different at all. We're just people trying to change our bodies, appearance and expression to match how we feel inside. :)
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Anna R

Hey, it takes a lot to get past the lifetime of societal programming that is out there, you are to be congratulated for your empathy
towards others of variance.
As the latest research now indicates, there are roughly 1 in 100 of us so, you sure as hell will meet more and your wonderful perspective is surely appreciated by everyone here.
Anna :-*
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Devlyn

Hi Hunter, welcome to Susan's Place! I'm from Boston. There's really not much to understand about transgender people, we get up in the morning and go to work like everyone else. :)  Transgender is a broad term encompassing a lot of people. I've always heard it is around 1 person out of 20 that is transgender, whether they are presenting openly or not is a different matter. I'm glad you decided to come get to know us.  See you around the site!

Hugs, Devlyn
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V M

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Julia-Madrid

Hi Hunter

I find it truly uplifting when someone is big enough to recognise some level of ignorance and moreover takes steps to correct it.  There are not as many folk like you out there as we'd hope.

You'll find all sorts here at Susan's, from many countries, and spanning a massive range of ages and experiences.  Ours is an unusual collective, with some extremely specialised needs, and if you ask questions, you'll certainly receive a rich and varied bunch of responses.

So dig through the archive, and get involved by opening a thread or two.

Regards
Julia
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gennee

Welcome to Susan's, Hunter. This is a learning point for you. When the opportunity comes again take advantage of it.

:)
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Hunter.Ian

Thank you for the warm welcomes, I was a bit nervous about posting worried about the reception I might get, but I'm glad I did. I tried reading some of the info here about trans people, but there were allot of abbreviations and info that went completely over my head. I eventually found a list of common abbreviations, but it was quite long. Everything from hormone abbreviations to SO for significant other. I'm slowly educating myself.

Honestly, I never really understood much about transgendered people. My grasp of the concept was it's a guy that wants to be a girl or vice versa, and that's about as much as I understood. In the short time I've been here I've got a whole new list of vocabulary to learn like I'm back in school, and I've been learning about dysphoria and hormone treatments and surgeries. There's allot more to it than I would've ever guessed!
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Hunter.Ian

And I have to say, you guys go through hell! I couldn't imagine what it must be like to not be comfortable in your own body. I tried imagining what I would feel like if I had a woman's body, and I couldn't even process the idea. It was so foreign to my identity I couldn't grasp it. I don't think I'd be the happy and relatively well adjusted person I am today if I had to live with that. This is much more difficult for you guys than I had ever thought. I've got allot to learn.
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Sunderland

*hugs you again and tries not to cry on you* I feel silly getting so emotional, but I think it's really touching that someone is going to the effort of trying to understand and learn about us just because they care. :')
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V M

Quote from: Hunter.Ian on February 22, 2015, 11:04:50 PM
And I have to say, you guys go through hell! I couldn't imagine what it must be like to not be comfortable in your own body. I tried imagining what I would feel like if I had a woman's body, and I couldn't even process the idea. It was so foreign to my identity I couldn't grasp it. I don't think I'd be the happy and relatively well adjusted person I am today if I had to live with that. This is much more difficult for you guys than I had ever thought. I've got allot to learn.

I will ask nicely once, please do not refer to me as a guy

Thank you

V M
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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Anna R

Quote from: V M on February 22, 2015, 11:47:34 PM
I will ask nicely once, please do not refer to me as a guy

Thank you

V M

And I second that.
Anna
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Sunderland

I thought he was just using "you guys" in the colloquial sense...
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Amy85

Quote from: Sunderland on February 23, 2015, 12:39:14 AM
I thought he was just using "you guys" in the colloquial sense...

I figured that also, but just one little lesson that many new people learn here is that the trans community can be pretty sensitive to any kind of gendered pronouns that are not in line with what they identify with, and for good reason obviously. When referring to multiple transwomen avoid saying "guys" even if you don't mean it in a masculine way :P Just using "ladies" or "women" and it will go over much better :)

P.S. Welcome to the site! And bravo on your mission to educate yourself :)
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Hunter.Ian

Quote from: V M on February 22, 2015, 11:47:34 PM
I will ask nicely once, please do not refer to me as a guy

Thank you

V M
Quote from: Anna R on February 23, 2015, 12:03:10 AM
And I second that.
Anna

I do apologize for any offense I may have caused, I was not referring to you specifically as a guy. I was referring to the group as a whole.

eg: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you%20guys

If this is something people are going to generally find offensive, is there some other preferred gender neutral pronoun I should use? I'm thinking that saying you ladies might be equally as offensive to the ftm population? I don't want to inadvertently step on any toes, and it seems like this is a sensitive topic, so I'd rather just ask.
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LordKAT

folks, people, everyone, you all, etc. There is always the ladies and gents of MCs I guess.
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Hunter.Ian

Quote from: LordKAT on February 23, 2015, 02:00:40 AM
folks, people, everyone, you all, etc. There is always the ladies and gents of MCs I guess.
Alrighty. Again, so sorry to have offended anyone, it was unintentional.
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