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Hi and Advice Needed

Started by Julian Jude, March 08, 2015, 11:28:31 AM

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Julian Jude

Hi, nice to meet everyone. I hope that This is the right section to post in. I'm Julian, I am in my early forties and I have had transgender issues since I was a small child. I just started exploring them more seriously in the past couple of years and recently I have done preliminary bloodwork for hormones. I've also recently come out to everyone. I should be happy, right? I'm not.
I'm in a long term marriage with two teens. One has special needs and mental illness. My marriage has been the foundation of my life for almost twenty years. My partner is a mostly hetrosexual male, he is actually very sexually turned on by the female form. He says that he is still attracted to me and thinks he will be after transition and wants to stay in the relationship, with one caveat. He wants to be polyamorous. He wants me to be his primary partner and to still have women in his life. The thought of giving up women all together is depressing for him.
We have struggled with this for months. I am monogamous by nature, and pretty codependent. I have had a history of being with untrustworthy men in my twenties and still hold those scars and as a result I am easily triggered and jealous.
Never the less, I have had to hold a lot in my marriage. He has marijuana addiction issues, a mood disorder, both which prevent him from working steadily and bringing in steady income, so I handle a lot. He has admitted to feeling restless in general, and wanting new experiences aside from the transgender issue. He wants to be in our relationship but he is trying to quit pot, having health issues, and really feeling like he needs someting drastic to get him out of his stasis.
I feel like it is all too much. It is so hard to think of transitioning in this turmoil, with no foundation. I don't have much other support because my closest friend in the area became sensually involved with both of us during this time (I know, grab the popcorn) and it all blew up and we don't talk. I am in therapy but it sometimes feels like bailing water out of a boat that needs major repairs.
Which is why I am here. I don't know how to choose between transition and my foundation. I worry about my ability to be in an open relationship. Maybe I can do it, but I have concerns. I also really don't have confidence in dating as a gay trans man. I am attractive, and in good shape as a female presenting person but I don't know how that will translate or what man, especially gay men who tend to be "c*ck centric" would want to date a trans man. And don't even get me started on the prospect of male pattern balness, which runs in my family. I like being in a relationship and don't like the prospect of giving it up for the possibility of being alone.
I appreciate you taking the time to read this and any advice you may have.
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mrs izzy

Welcome Julian to Susan's family.
So many topics to explore and posts to read or write.
Many article of news, wiki, links and chat
Take some time and read over the links for the site rules.:icon_paper:
Each link holds it own section.
Safe passage on your path.
Je suis un ĂȘtre humain,
Hugs
Mrs. Izzy
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mrs izzy

We spend all our lives trying to make others around us happy.

At what point do we see they are happy and we are still miserable.

How fare is that. 

Always evaluate life has to be mutually respectful.

Hugs
Mrs. Izzy
Trans lifeline US 877-565-8860 CAD 877-330-6366 http://www.translifeline.org/
"Those who matter will never judge, this is my given path to walk in life and you have no right to judge"

I used to be grounded but now I can fly.
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adrian

Hey Julian,

I'm glad you joined, it's great meeting you!

It sounds like there's lots going on in your life -- I can relate to some of the stuff (minus the children, and my husband is very clear about ending the relationship if/when I begin to transition). I'll be forty next year, discovered/acknowledged I'm ftm only 6 month ago, been with my husband for 15 years, married for 7. I'm quite overwhelmed by the situation and the emotions involved. I want to transition, but I feel unbelievably guilty. Plus, I love my husband and have a hard time accepting he doesn't "love me enough" to support me (I know I'm being unjust there). The only thing that helps me cope and get through this is: tackle one issue at a time. I know this is lame advice, but if the whole pile of rubble is too overwhelming, there's nothing to do but pick up one stone at a time. Sorry, this is probably not helpful, but it's the only thing I have found helps me and makes sense to me (and geez have I fought fights with my therapist because he refuses to even discuss the possibility of me transitioning before I haven't dealt with the other baggage).

Anyway, let us know how things are going for you!

Adrian
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cindy16

Hi Julian,

I am not sure how much I can help here, as I am coming from the opposite direction (pre-everything MtF) and only a few years into my marriage with no children yet. The only similarity I see is in trying to keep a marriage together while also wanting to transition, and my wife being mostly heterosexual.

My wife and I are materially independent, even of each other, and share a mostly equal relationship with none of the additional 'constraints' as in your case. So it is only our emotions and feelings towards each other which make us want to work everything out and avoid the prospect of being alone or trying to find someone else afresh. Like Adrian, I too go through these phases of wondering whether my wife 'loves me enough' to support me, but then I realize it sounds selfish because she could very well ask if I 'love her enough' to not transition.

I had initially thought (still think so, actually) that we could stay together even if I fully transition, but I am getting the sense that eventually, we may each have to make our own choices and not necessarily bind each other down. We are taking it one step at a time, still treating each other with as much love as we always have, but we know that at some point, my transitioning may bring matters to a head.

The reason I am saying all this is because even with a marriage which is working so well, I am wrestling with these feelings about my gender which may finally lead me to put everything at stake. But if for some reason, it wasn't working well and I had been feeling that I was holding things together more than my partner, it would probably make my decision about transitioning easier, and the fears about being alone lesser.

I know that this is easy to say at my stage of life, but not so easy to even consider later in life. After having been married for so long, and especially with the responsibility of children, you might feel comfortable or even obligated to continue as you always have and scared about suddenly being alone, but as Mrs Izzy rightly said, you might need to ask yourself whether you are being fair to yourself. From whatever you have shared, there is no reason why you can't do well for yourself and for your children even after transitioning. Being monogamous and codependent is a good thing, but probably not when the partner may not be willing to reciprocate the same way. And dating in (what may seem like) a small niche, or the prospect of being alone, or undesired physical changes may seem daunting now, but taking small steps towards your happiness can help you figure out whether those fears are for real, and if they are, then how best can you deal with them.

I hope this helps, and if it doesn't, please ignore. Or if it is inappropriate, I apologize.

Take care
Cindy
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Devlyn

Hi Julian, welcome to Susan's Place! Lifetime bachelor(ette) here, you don't want advice from me!  :laugh: Unless you have an unruly dog, those I'm good with. Definitely here to stand by your side, though.  :)

Hugs, Devlyn
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Julian Jude

Thank you everyone. It is good to hear from others on similar paths, and btw I never care much if it is FTM or MTF, I think we share enough in common with our experiences. It is good to process through everything and hear your stories. And it is a good point when feeling sorry for myself and that he should love me enough to support me through anything that it is more complicated than that and he could say that I don't love him enough to not transition, which isn't true.
I know that I need to go slowly and leave lots of space for processing on both sides.
Food for thought.
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Rachel

Hi Julian,

It sounds like your husband wants an open marriage whether or not you transition.

You definitely have a full plate with the children and issues with steady income and codependency.

Transition can be what you make of it and to the extent it makes you happy. Go at your own speed.

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