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What if offered the opportunity...

Started by Mia and Marq, August 30, 2007, 03:08:09 AM

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Mia and Marq

Hey all,
I have an interesting question I'd like to ask everyone.

I know the whole "If you were offered a magic pill that would make you (male/female/androgynous)" discussion has probably been beaten into the ground. What I'd like to ask all of you is something similair but yet atleast based in possibility. And here it is:

If you were offered by someone to have all of your operations and procedures paid for and all you had to do was be interviewed by the benefactor, would you accept this opportunity? For those of you who have already undergone surgery or whatnot, you would instead be offered complete reimbursement for your operations and procedures. (For those who aren't necessarily interested in SRS, anything that would get you the type of body you want would be included, nullification, partial modification, etc..) or just basic stuff like hair removal.

I'm quite interested in what others might have to say. Would there be stipulations, hesitations, etc and why would you have those. Discuss as you see fit.

Marq and Mia
Being given the gift of two-spirits meant that this individual had the ability to see the world from two perspectives at the same time. This greater vision was a gift to be shared, and as such, Two-spirited beings were revered as leaders, mediators, teachers, artists, seers, and spiritual guides
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Nero

Yes, I'd go for it. I've heard some transpeople say stuff along the lines of - 'if you didn't work your behind off to make and save the money, pinching and scraping to get by, you don't deserve it'. One transman told this to a guy whose folks offered to pay for his surgery in full.
I don't buy that though. Yes, lots of people have to save for years to have SRS and stuff, but I don't think it's a matter of 'deserving' it because you went through all this stuff to get it, like a new car or some such.

So yes, I'd go for it.
If there were strings attached, it would be a matter of what the benefactor looked like, as there are some people around I wouldn't do for a billion smackers. Hey, I have standards.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Mia and Marq

I don't know what I implied when I said interview, but i meant a "Hey sit down and talk with me for a little bit so I know who you are". But sure people can get suspicious when something like that occurs, its human nature perhaps.


M&M
Being given the gift of two-spirits meant that this individual had the ability to see the world from two perspectives at the same time. This greater vision was a gift to be shared, and as such, Two-spirited beings were revered as leaders, mediators, teachers, artists, seers, and spiritual guides
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candifla

This offer is analogous to being offered a million dollars to show up at a time-share presentation. The lure is there but the actual gift is tainted.

Why on earth would someone finance your transition unless they plan on bitchifying you.

There's always a motive, altruistic or no, I'd be suspicious.

This is a strange question to ask. Who is this person? Can I be interviewed?

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no_id

It's an interesting question since it sketches a situation wherin you'll forever be interlinked with one person. They will become a piece of you that you cannot erase; the lingering partial attached to a desire, wish, and necessity (to add) fulfilled. Each time you are reminded, each time you notice your reflection -- their name mentioned in the same breath[...] And, then there is still the interview; a conversation, a more one-sided dialogue wherein you'll show exactly who you are (as in); serving your heart on a silver plate to someone you hardly or do not know at all. Would you be able to do that? To cut your heart out and throw it at some unknown silhouette's feet in return for[...]?... Described in such a way, and in such context I am reminded of the ancient cliché; to sell your soul to the devil...

Nevertheless, my answer is yes: I would take the opportunity, most likely without a blink of the eye, but with a decent overview of possible consequences. I already have quite a few skelletons in my closet and am certain there's room for at least one more if necessary.

As for to sell my soul to the devil? I would quite possibly.  8)

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Lisbeth

Quote from: Marq and Mia on August 30, 2007, 03:08:09 AM
If you were offered by someone to have all of your operations and procedures paid for and all you had to do was be interviewed by the benefactor, would you accept this opportunity?
Didn't Dr. Faust buy into one of those schemes?  All he ended up paying was his soul.
"Anyone who attempts to play the 'real transsexual' card should be summarily dismissed, as they are merely engaging in name calling rather than serious debate."
--Julia Serano

http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2011/09/transsexual-versus-transgender.html
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NickSister

I wouldn't. I don't like feeling obligated to anyone. But then money is not such an issue for me in that I have some and I would not need much to transform myself to my prefered state anyway since I'm not transsexual.

If I was desperate, really struggling with dysphoria, on the edge of ending it, then hell yeah I would take it.
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Melissa

Quote from: Candi Nahasapeemapetilon on August 30, 2007, 05:35:55 AMWhy on earth would someone finance your transition unless they plan on bitchifying you.
I'm not sure what you mean by this (either making you look ugly via surgery or if you meant they would interview you in a negative light).  If you meant they would make you look ugly, then pay for it first and get reimbursed (hey, that rhymes :D), which was one of the allowances:
Quote from: Marq and Mia on August 30, 2007, 03:08:09 AM
For those of you who have already undergone surgery or whatnot, you would instead be offered complete reimbursement for your operations and procedures.

Quote from: Candi Nahasapeemapetilon on August 30, 2007, 05:35:55 AMThere's always a motive, altruistic or no, I'd be suspicious.
And you could very well be right.  However, the person who is more clever would still win.

Quote from: Nero on August 30, 2007, 05:18:23 AMI've heard some transpeople say stuff along the lines of - 'if you didn't work your behind off to make and save the money, pinching and scraping to get by, you don't deserve it'. One transman told this to a guy whose folks offered to pay for his surgery in full.
That's just jealousy speaking.
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Fer

I wouldnt take any offer like that.  I dont trust people that easily.  What is the catch?
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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Nero

Quote from: Melissa on August 30, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: Candi Nahasapeemapetilon on August 30, 2007, 05:35:55 AMWhy on earth would someone finance your transition unless they plan on bitchifying you.
I'm not sure what you mean by this (either making you look ugly via surgery or if you meant they would interview you in a negative light).  If you meant they would make you look ugly, then pay for it first and get reimbursed (hey, that rhymes :D), which was one of the allowances:

Missy, you're so innocent, it's adorable! :laugh:
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Jay

I would go for it! Easy! If everything was paid for yes.. however I would want to know what the other part of the deal is!


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tinkerbell

Hmmm...like Fer, I am very skeptical when it comes to "favors".  Why?  What do they want from me?  Besides, and according to the results of some quizes I have taken in the fun & games board  ;D, one of my major sins is pride.  I wouldn't do it at all.  I would hate to owe something so profound as my SRS to anyone.  There's absolutely no way I would do it, but again that is just me.  :P

tink :icon_chick:
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candifla

Quote from: Nero on August 30, 2007, 04:44:53 PM
Quote from: Melissa on August 30, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: Candi Nahasapeemapetilon on August 30, 2007, 05:35:55 AMWhy on earth would someone finance your transition unless they plan on bitchifying you.
I'm not sure what you mean by this (either making you look ugly via surgery or if you meant they would interview you in a negative light).  If you meant they would make you look ugly, then pay for it first and get reimbursed (hey, that rhymes :D), which was one of the allowances:

Missy, you're so innocent, it's adorable! :laugh:

yeah, I thought it was a good word. Certainly applies.

just for the record, in my case, i'd take the cash. i have no problems living the life of Anna, except the early death.
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Jeannette

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Mia and Marq

Ok I think I have enough responses to give you the whole story.

There is absolutely no catch. None.

Here is the situation I envisioned and do with it as you please.

I was sitting in bed a couple days ago and thought about what I would do with a couple hundred million from the powerball jackpot lottery. The first thought was of course to pay off any debt I owe flat out and apart from a couple security precautions would continue living mostly like I currently do.

Then I thought what would I possibly do with that money. Of course saving it would seem like a good idea but thats actually pointless. I'd only need to set aside a couple or 5 million to make so much money on interest that even the interest would be too much to spend. That leaves me with still over 200 million. Then I thought why not help other people and since I'm partial to the TG community for obvious reasons I thought thats as good a place as any to start. As per my scenerio, all I would ask would be to interview the reciepient before hand to understand how much the procedures meant to them and to see if they would appreciate the gift or if they're just in line for a hand out. Money doesn't make people happy necessarily but I bet I can use the money to make people happy and that in turn will bring me happiness.

I can appreciate the financial strain that the procedures would or have caused and why not aleviate the strain to bring a little bit more happiness to the world? See no catch, unless you count wanting to help people because of my good fortune a catch.

Now you might ask "Would you honestly do something like that?" I have no doubt at all given that circumstance that I would absolutely offer that opportunity.to as many people as I could. Now I know how things like this can get out of hand pretty fast and I'm not entirely sure if I could really support the procedures of every TG that was interested but if I had to, saving some of the money to generate enough return on investments, I could offer the opportunity to more as the interest accumulated.

I hold no illusion that TG people would be the only ones I tried to help because yes a lot of people are worse off but you have to start somewhere and its more feasible to start small instead of trying to fix everything at once.

As per some of your responses, I know people are sometimes just too suspicious to take a leap of a faith or they don't want to feel obligated to someone. You can't help those who don't want the help. But anyone that does take the offer would certainly find I'm true to my word. They wouldn't ever have to see me again after the interview if they desired though I would hope they would remember what kindness has done for them and pass it on someday without a reason other then to just do it because you can.

The only thing I'm slightly wary about in this all is that others may attempt to take advantage of me to try to take my money through other means. That being said I'm sure I would have to offer some sort of legal release lest I find lawsuits upon me from people who were not satisfied or some such. I'm sure given the right preperation I can keep the act of assistance or reimbursement as good intentioned as possible.

The only thing I might add is in response to "How could you possibly do this?" I respond that Mia left to her own devices has almost unrestricted compassion for others, this being an act of compassion, and even if I had to allocate half the money for Mia to spend as she wants and half for Marq, that would still be enough to succeed at this cause.

Well thats the whole story, whats everyone say? Sticking with your answers?

Marq and Mia
Who says you can't change the world?
You need only try
Being given the gift of two-spirits meant that this individual had the ability to see the world from two perspectives at the same time. This greater vision was a gift to be shared, and as such, Two-spirited beings were revered as leaders, mediators, teachers, artists, seers, and spiritual guides
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taru

Would probably take it.

Lots of things have catches (including earning money). And I don't have a problem with giving some favors to someone paying for everything.
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Nero

I'm quite talented. :icon_eyebrow:

Posted on: August 31, 2007, 02:53:47 AM
Just teasing lol. :laugh:
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Blanche

I would kindly thank the person, say I cant take it and that would be the end of it all.
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Elizabeth

I would gladly accept. I have no pride in these matters. There are many who are born into wealth and have done nothing to deserve transition more than me. If someone was willing to pay, I would be in line tomorrow.

Love always,
Elizabeth
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Christo

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