Transsexual WITH A Decent Job?

[Cindy]

I believe the ones you speak of being unemployed i can shed some light on

I was considered an early identifier back in 1990 at 16
I started dating and dressing and boom evicted from home
No shelter would take me social services told me to go sleep
Anywhere and they werent taking as they said
" we dont take people like you "
I only have bio 10
And i was in edmonton with a very very harsh winter arriving
Quicly
Winters easy hit -40 centigrade

No shelters no meal programs mo famiy no freinds
You wind up prey to sex predators for clean clothes
Bed food and than you find out that your worrh major money
And i got out to the coast by januaey to vancouver
Same story no agency or gov program touched me
Legal age is 19 and that means im atuck in that life for at
Least three years
Even though i had lots of cash i cant rent anywhere
When 19 came by i was so damaged that when i finally
Walked into a school to restart life i felt like i coulsnt relate
Kids smiled laughed had dreams fell in love
I was raped assaulted seen things no kid should
I ran back to where my skill qere relevant
I was hardened and cold ice cold and calculating
There i stayed until i was kisnappwd by my mother at 30 years of age
And brought 2400 km north to her new house in atlin lake
F:(-&;& did the town get a load of me
But than for the next three years i stared out a
Window at nothing probably in shock and trauma

Than i was moved farrjer but detransitioned by
Force
Started menail jobs in whitehorse for insulting pay
But than boom got hires in the minimg industry
And made 195 tax free a day for 5 years
And got offered to work sites with the boys
At 385 a day tax free and i jumped
Drove a skytrak forklifts rocktruxk skidsteer
And than dysphoria came back with a vengeance
And i let it ride
They put me back in camp kitxhens and fired me in
Four months
I had 7500 in bank drafts and was close to ffs in argentina
But my mom kicked me oht again in decembeer
Ans shelters refused me and my ffs fund evaporated
Had to flee to vancouver wirh skills that are useles
But i know one thing
Amd i am pretty and was blessed from
Firat transition so i got hips and look 20 years
Younger some days
And i job hunt hunt hunt hunt and get nothing
But life as a girl aint xheap so i do what i know
Best and make the best of it
Was not easy at all
But i worked throufh the year on the girl track
I always wear high end makeup electro near
Finished
And i promised myself tops year and a half
And its been that long
I retire out of sex work a few days ago
And getting srs by brassard in three weeks
Have a amazing loving caring empatjetic man
Who is very gentle
He lets me freak out and cry all nigjt or yell at him
And get anger out qnd he holds me while i am nightmaring
And when i recover from srs i am atill getting welfare
And get grants bursaries etc to go baxk to high school
Amd my bf will give me 200 a month for atayinf in school
Tjat means by the time dor college i have FFS!!!!
i want to become a nurse

This is one narrartice why some girls may not get a job
They can be to damaged from rejection and disnt have
What i did a man who told me daily i am beautifull
I matter i am of value and he wont gice up

In all of this i have suffered 28 broken or cracked bones
And i also have surciced pickton
He killed over 50 of us working girls
He had me and i should have been mailed
Home as a dna strand with most of my gf i
Worked with
Today i can still smile amd some days not
And when i walk everyone jumps out of my
Way when they see me " oh sh!/ its natasha!!! "

But it doesnt define me at all
It was something that i has to do

I get paid sometimes to tell my life
And i call it 25 for life
25 years of hell to have a life

So yes i am the transsexual with no job
But it means nothing because i aint effin
Scared of no man and they can taunt me in
School but when they get a load of me rheu to
Will jump out of my way when i come walking by

Now i define myself
And if i ever hear any of you putting down sex
Workers remember one day
Natasha will be your nurse!!!!
Hahahan

My tears fall.

You are a strong woman

You have faced life as few know it

Many years ago with a needle in my arm and the gutter my bed
I decided that was not me.

I overcame my past, and there is no shame in my past and there is none in yours

The past has gone, the future is yours, and you will be a wonderful nurse.

[Erica_Y]

There are a number of factors that can affect ones work life experiences Trans* or not and a lot of Trans* people have had very difficult journeys much more so than I and for that they have my deepest respect. I do not believe being Trans* eliminates the possibility of a high paying professional career however it makes the road more bumpy and challenging not unlike a lot of woman face in the work force  when they start to climb the corporate ladder for which I have seen and now experienced myself.

I have been very fortunate in that I was able to transition at work in a professional career role centered around Intellectual Property Management, Product and Project Management however it was in the Oil and Gas industry which is not known to be a tolerant industry to LGBT people however I manged. With the recent downturn as a result of oversupply and lack of demand I was laid off with thousands of other people this last February after 11 years. 30-50% staff reductions are not uncommon right now.  I was faced with the biggest challenge of my transition to date of finding a career job with no safety net of any kind as Erica which I have been living as since May 2014. I am just an average T-girl. I had to learn to interview and approach the job search as a female with no help after 25 years of never having to look for work. It took me 6 months which I am very fortunate considering the economy in my city to land a great job leading an IP management department in a brand new industry for which I had no network to rely on. I had the mantra of "keep moving forward" through all of the disappointments. I ended up landing a job by working the situation as anybody else would. It is taking people upwards of a year or longer to find something. So it is entirely possible and achievable however I would not expect a yellow brick road to be laid out for us anytime soon. I know of a few girls who are in professional job roles and doing really well; with a good work ethic, focus and passion you can get to your version of success

Good luck and keep moving forward !!!!

[OCAnne]

Hello Everyone, for the time being I still have a decent job.  Very sure if a trans. person had similar skill set this job could be theirs.   My Tweet while on the job: twitter.com/AnneEdwardz/status/639247801474396161
I do more than just drive.

Thank you,
Anne

[DanielleA]

I got my diploma of childrens services from tafe after finishing yr12 and have been working as a perminent casual childcare worker. Since then. I earn $25 / hour and are the only casual ch worker in my childcare centre so I get called in alot. I don't earn a tonne of money but it is good enough.

[FreyasRedemption]

Uncertain if I can ever get one....pretty certain I don't even want one.
However, it has nothing to do with being transgender. It's just how I am.
Studying is absolute hell for me, and working is thrice as bad. Combine that with me being the type of person who always tries to find way to go around a problem instead of finding a solution for it (I can't help it, I do it by instinct) and you start to get the picture.

[Dena]

Uncertain if I can ever get one....pretty certain I don't even want one.
However, it has nothing to do with being transgender. It's just how I am.
Studying is absolute hell for me, and working is thrice as bad. Combine that with me being the type of person who always tries to find way to go around a problem instead of finding a solution for it (I can't help it, I do it by instinct) and you start to get the picture.

The trick to work is finding a profession you would do even if they didn't pay you to do it. That is how I feel about programmings, getting paid to have fun. Don't tell my boss

[natashaX]

I have tried every trick any trans person did
They all have the way to do it
Whether it's education or its passability  or the one that's the worst
The reason is they are a real ->-bleeped-<- and I'm not for some bs reason
Neither once has any of them actually realized that because they are
White or went to school the real reason or maybe they don't see that anyone Leah isn't
White and didn't go to university.
But I find over all I get nothing but derision  and insults because I can't get hired,
Your fake, your a transgender, not a woman, your lying
Well actually at the peak of mining industry I used to get 4895 dollar tax free checks
Do the math. You need to make as much ad 180 a year taxed,
And I don't know if me being trans is the issue or I'm not passable.
But I'm not a dumb girl, <not allowed> any of you and your education couldn't make what I made.
I drove with 20 tons on forks or in a box. So why can't I get a job?

https://youtu.be/Vh1oUoRXwgA

This is how I used to go to work for two years and I've been flown to work daily,
I thought when  I came back to the cities that most idiots would realize that when I said
I need a job they sit up and notice. After all when someone says they know how to work and then make as
Much as ten of you they aren't messing around.
Sometimes I think I outclassed most humans.

I will never give up. And the reality that some woman think she is above me because I sold my body
Tells me that she's got issues. All woman did one way or another,
Welcome to womanhood ...,you <not allowed> your way there or you look pretty or you convince or you act,
But none have the successes at being a woman that I will ever have,
None will make the money in their entire life as I did in 7 years 
Now I live in peace. I don't give two bleep that I have no job,
I'll go to school , 
I will always Win. I learned the first game of a woman, use sex
And I am pro


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[cindianna_jones]

Uncertain if I can ever get one....pretty certain I don't even want one.
However, it has nothing to do with being transgender. It's just how I am.
Studying is absolute hell for me, and working is thrice as bad. Combine that with me being the type of person who always tries to get the picture.

Ah, but Freyas, you know this about yourself. You can pinpoint your own weaknesses. Many can't ever seem to do that. This means that you have taken the first step in changing the way you look at life and how to deal with its obstacles. One step at a time, hon.

Cindi

[nocgirl]

One poster said "attitude is everything" and they are totally right. I think many trans spend too much time bringing attention to themselves and their cause, and looking for ways to complain about discrimination. There is no reason if you are hard worker, keep a low profile, and don't bring too much attention to yourself that you shouldn't have a good job.

[Ashley Allison]

I am in my last year of Medical School, with residency to come... The speciality it looks like I am going into is not very well known for being open minded nor is it accepting for even cis-women to become doctors in this field.  That being said, this specialization as a doctor will put me in a good place financially once I am ready to transition  

[Rejennyrated]

Well done Ashley - you are one year ahead of me. Which country are you in? And what speciality do you hope to enter? From what you said I'd have to guess you want to be an Orthopod... because in the UK where I am thats the most macho speciality... I'm probably headed for GP land - but I have a few other options and I havent really decided yet.

[Ashley Allison]

Hi Jenny You pretty much nailed it! I am in the US... As I have already spent a lot of time in the OR with the docs, I can pretty much say without a doubt that once I transition it will cause a lot of waves (of course, it does anyways, anywhere you do it).  I have already been exposed to my fair share of transphobic comments despite not being out, simply because Surgeons, surgical techs, and nurses love commenting on "Caitlyn Jenner" and other subjects very ignorantly.  I feel like I have some idea what I am getting into.  That being said, there are many surgical based doctors that have transitioned that give me hope despite the hardships; reading about none other than Dr. Christine McGinn's story is extremely inspiring personally. Anyways, it is really good to know another girl that is going through pretty much the same thing... I think we made good choices even if there is some hardship

[Rejennyrated]

Hi Jenny You pretty much nailed it! I am in the US... As I have already spent a lot of time in the OR with the docs, I can pretty much say without a doubt that once I transition it will cause a lot of waves (of course, it does anyways, anywhere you do it).  I have already been exposed to my fair share of transphobic comments despite not being out, simply because Surgeons, surgical techs, and nurses love commenting on "Caitlyn Jenner" and other subjects very ignorantly.  I feel like I have some idea what I am getting into.  That being said, there are many surgical based doctors that have transitioned that give me hope despite the hardships; reading about none other than Dr. Christine McGinn's story is extremely inspiring personally. Anyways, it is really good to know another girl that is going through pretty much the same thing... I think we made good choices even if there is some hardship

Well I dont have those problems because I was already 30 years postop when I was selected for training so they cant really say anything... and if they did I'd give as good as I got! I'm not secretive about my background at all...

Ok now here's the really funny part - in the UK the leading orthopod is Sarah Muirhead-Allwood - she is literally the top woman and has operated on our Royal Family. Now if you google her it wont take you long to learn that she is one of our sisters. So hold your head high - you're in august and distinguised company.

[Missy D]

I had one once  Well not exactly decent but it came with reasonable pay and a uniform. In fact lots of people with better jobs seem to want to do what I did. I'm not sure why, but they seem to think it's some sort of way out of a humdrum existence.

It was fine to begin with. Except it wasn't. Then it got worse. I was shut in an office by a burly senior who tried everything he could to be physically intimidating. Including shouting in my face that I wasn't fit for anything including being male. Strangely he did question my gender in there. But what am I to say? Apparently he was a lovely bloke. As was someone of much higher rank who assaulted me in a work car park. He didn't like something about me using one of the spaces so slammed a car door on my arm.  Someone else falsified a supervisor's signature in order to attempt to blame me for his poor standards of work, like he tried to make out I should have been doing something of his? That didn't go anywhere, luckily for me, however the result of me reporting it was further exclusion for me and no action against him. The same individual caused a member of the public to complain. He tried to pretend that I was the one behind it, until I produced evidence that I wasn't even there!!! Again my colleague was slapped on the back and the whole thing treated as a joke. I received no apology for the pretty sustained verbal attack I received prior to the truth coming out. I was shifted around different places, given the worst jobs, insulted and so on.

I had to put up with constant comments and snide remarks about how I looked, my behaviour, mannerisms and so on. There was constant social exclusion, outright bullying and the odd sense of never feeling comfortable with certain colleagues.  Finally I was driven to make a few pathetic little goes at suicide, but I couldn't even go through with that.

Things are better now, yay!! I've got an all right job but it's just normal office stuff. On the plus side my colleagues are really friendly. 

My previous experiences have in some ways made me stronger. I've learned to appreciate that there are plenty of good people and a few bad ones. At least now I can tell the difference!!! I still have a fairly intense distrust of men, especially a group of males sort of mentality. Day to day it doesn't matter but lots of men still make me feel uncomfortable. I know I shouldn't, but when you've ben hurt it never quite goes away.

Here's something really ironic lol... That job? My little visit to the abyss? I wasn't even that bad at it to be fair. I wasn't great at certain aspects - but then I had more to deal with arguably, such as my own colleagues intentionally making things harder for me. However there were little bits here and there that I was fine with, little bits that most of the others couldn't do or considered beneath them. Part of me, the little bit, wishes that at least some of them miss me. I don't miss them.

In real life I'm about half-way through my first novel so aiming to become a professional writer eventually. I'd love to do magazines and things as well. 

[Leki]

HI I am a Test Equipment Calibration Engineer for A large Multi National company as well as working in a Mainly masculine environment I also Transitioned in the Job mine is a fairly essential job and we are fairly well respected so being Trans is not a reason to have to take a poorly paid Job .If you have a skill use it

I don't really know what my skills are though, that is why I have this problem.

I am friendly, hard-working, fairly well organised.

[Leki]

An option if one doesn't have a job, is to enroll in a college or university for a degree that is in high demand, with decent pay...ask your counselor when checking out degrees.

Don't go to the local-ish "technical schools" for dental assistant, office worker, etc. Their fees are often in the $10k-$30k range, and the jobs one qualifies for after completing the course is often pretty low relative to the cost (I've found it to be typically $10-$15/hour, which was ok at one time, but minimum wage is nearing that level in many places in the US)

Think math, engineering, IT/computer science, biology, chemistry, and teaching degrees. I'm sure there are many others that are good also (my interests are mostly in the sciences). Social degrees tend to not pay as much, but they (like teaching) tend to be very tolerant of diversity.

Don't do well in math or sciences? Take a few refresher courses, and motivate yourself to study. Unless you have a learning disability, the sciences are very logical and rational. (imho, not dissing others)

Apply for tuition assistance, housing on/near campus, ask about other assistance available to low-income people. And don't forget the community colleges! Much less expensive, and their credits do transfer to the bigger, more prestigious (and expensive) universities. (Community colleges offer the same classes that the "technical schools" do, but at a much lower cost...check it out, you'll see!)

Higher education is a good option...you can either sit on the street saying "Golly I wish I had a good paying job", or you can sit in the counselor's office deciding your future, and working toward it.

Just a thought.

Where do you want to be in 5 years?

I have already been in higher education. I have a degree in psychology. I have been to see a careers advisor and it was ->-bleeped-<-, I am in no better position now.

[Leki]

You can be whatever you dream of being....or where life takes you.lol I worked as a cashier, sales girl, model, office manager, and marketing exec. It's hard to get into the professional world after modeling(clothes) but it can be done. I'd have done better than office management stuff if I'd gone to college...get your degrees girls!!lol hugs!


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[chuufk]

I don't really know what my skills are though, that is why I have this problem.

I am friendly, hard-working, fairly well organised.

.... and very negative.

Read all the responses of other transitioners. They show what can be achieve and yet you scream "false" at them or tell them it cannot be done when they are actually doing it.

I employ people and I always look for enthusiasm and determination as well as qualifications.  I never hire a well qualified "downer" because they drag down those around them. I would rather hire an under qualified person with a positive outlook and train them up. I have done it before

Cultivate a positive outlook. It takes work but it can be done and it will really help you. It will also help you see opportunities that you would otherwise miss. When you find yourself being negative just say to yourself "stop! I need to break this habit"

It will take effort but the rewards justify the hard work.

[Laura_7]

Everybody has some kind of inner voice telling them what they like.
It is possible there might be some restraints, and some people who might try to hold others back.

Imo it also has to do with what people feel and if they do it, or if they adapt too much to others.

Rejennyrateds story is an example... she has a feeling for what she wants and tries to do it....

If there is no exact feeling for what to do, a way could be to look around.... and then try something...
taking it from there...

the state of the economy will not remain imo... it will get better...
there are still hardheads but people slowly come to the realization that cooperation and living in peace is a better way of living....

look for good examples who made it, who simply tried again...

well a degree in psychology could enable to work with people in all kinds of ways...
customer relations...
marketing...
you could aquaint a bit of knowledge and try in a field you'd like...

or you might try a practical field, and apply some knowledge there...

[natashaX]

It really seems to me that there is a lot posturing here
Like I made so can you and here's the secret
I kind of suspect that either you really enjoyed male privelage before
Transition or had a career or maybe even had a house to sell.
But it's not  the same for everyone. Remember that.
Like where I live high school isn't free any more for adults.
So basically you all make some feel like losers when you pull
Out this right attitude crap. I guarantee not one of you have the right
Attitude to survive my life, given the suicide rate and all.
So cut it out please and tell the truths about it.