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My therapist thinks I am lying to her

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Jade_404

Quote from: slickpixie on July 31, 2015, 10:16:19 AM
Your triglycerides are quite high as far as estriol levels this is the info I found I hope this helps IMG_0854.PNG


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I do not see the image you linked.
Yes , my doctor said triglycerides were high. Not sure why tho.
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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slickpixie

Ok I will type it out for you hang on dear


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Jade_404

Quote from: slickpixie on July 31, 2015, 10:21:51 AM
Ok I will type it out for you hang on dear


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No problem :)

Also, I do smoke... I know its bad and I aim to quit before HRT. I do not drink alcohol, and I weigh 129.2 pounds, I am 5 foot 8 inches tall.. I was told that I am underweight and I need to gain some healthy weight. I eat about 3 slices of fruit pie a day, I can't help it it is so yummy! Usually Apple, Pineapple, blueberry or cherry pie. Maybe I need to cut back.. darn

hugs,
Jade
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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slickpixie

Ok between the age of 20-29 a female should range between 27-149pg/ml depends on her menstruated cycle


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slickpixie

So you are coming along our levels can go as high as 210 defends on our body and age pre menopause or post menopause


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slickpixie

The pie is why your triglycerides are high the triglycerides are amount of fat


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slickpixie

But your not fat just fat can build up in the blood system like sugar


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Jade_404

Thank you for the info Slickpixie!  :-*

Yes, I am cutting back on the pies. I will try a piece every other day.  :(

again Thanks for taking the time and linking those norms.

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-Jade
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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slickpixie

Average adult female testosterone levels should range from 15-70


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slickpixie

Yeah you gain healthy Weight by eating protein drink milk it's good for women

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slickpixie

Hi Jade I looked up natural ways to increase estrogen levels they say eat tofu and drink soy milk


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Jade_404

Quote from: slickpixie on July 31, 2015, 11:17:04 AM
Hi Jade I looked up natural ways to increase estrogen levels they say eat tofu and drink soy milk


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I do drink soy milk daily, and have for over year now.I also grow my own spearmint, and have tea a few times a day. Both these things in my diet helped me to get well, after Lymes almost killed me.  I told this to both my Doctor and therapists. My Doctor says soy and spearmint are healthy but are probably not causing feminization. Thanks for the info :)

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Jade
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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Laura_7

ESTRADIOL
  pg/ml
  Women (> 18 years old)   
     Ovulatory Peak  130-370
     Luteal Phase  70-250
     Post-Menopausal  15-60
  Male  15-60

With injections levels can be well over 600 during the first days...
it depends on the way of application, applications like implants and injections are considered safer...

during pregnancy levels are way higher...

you could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193039.msg1721685.html#msg1721685

If not on hrt I'd look up side effects of products like linseed... and wouldn't exaggerate with quantity... in really large quantities they all are suposed to have side effects...


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slickpixie

You're welcome hugs


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iKate

I wouldn't put too much faith in soy milk and other stuff. Yes, they may work to some degree but it's really more of a miss than a hit.

I say the best thing is to find a therapist who will work to get you on HRT.
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Jade_404

Quote from: iKate on July 31, 2015, 01:46:37 PM
I wouldn't put too much faith in soy milk and other stuff. Yes, they may work to some degree but it's really more of a miss than a hit.

I say the best thing is to find a therapist who will work to get you on HRT.

Yes, I plan to go on HRT even if it is not with my current therapist. I don't want a DIY hormone regimen. I have a good diet that includes soy milk, vegetables , occasional meats and eggs, flax seed in my salad dressing, Olive oil, Milk, Coffee, Mint tea,pasta, bread, chocolate,  and PIES. Writing that made me hungry, haha. Anyway , I keep to my diet because it makes me feel good and not sick. When I slip up, perhaps at a BBQ or something, I feel sick for a while after. I also never eat from restaurants anymore, it makes me fell ill for days.

hugs,
Jade
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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Jade_404

Quote from: Laura_7 on July 31, 2015, 12:46:34 PM
ESTRADIOL
  pg/ml
  Women (> 18 years old)   
     Ovulatory Peak  130-370
     Luteal Phase  70-250
     Post-Menopausal  15-60
  Male  15-60

With injections levels can be well over 600 during the first days...
it depends on the way of application, applications like implants and injections are considered safer...

during pregnancy levels are way higher...

you could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193039.msg1721685.html#msg1721685

If not on hrt I'd look up side effects of products like linseed... and wouldn't exaggerate with quantity... in really large quantities they all are suposed to have side effects...


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This is great info. The linked had info on massage, well yeah I do play with them. I like them, they make me happy. When I was a kid and had breasts forming, I was scolded about playing with them.. I complained they itched and hurt, when I was rubbing them a lot. My uncle said stop touching them or it could make them puff out more. He said to not even massage them, to do push ups. So yeah, now I like rubbing them, I like the feeling. And when they hurt i massage them, I looked up proper techniques online a while ago.

hugs,

Jade  8)
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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MsMarlo

Jade, is your therapist well versed in transgender therapy?  That is really important; I know everyone has to start somewhere, but it sounds like this one isn't even on the launching pad.  Try and find one that is local; you may have to travel a bit but it will be worth it. 




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Jade_404

Quote from: MsMarlo on July 31, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
Jade, is your therapist well versed in transgender therapy?  That is really important; I know everyone has to start somewhere, but it sounds like this one isn't even on the launching pad.  Try and find one that is local; you may have to travel a bit but it will be worth it.

She was supposed to be one of the better ones in the area for gender therapy. I think she may have seeded the reviews online.. She is a quack!

hugs,
Jade
I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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Jade_404

UPDATE: (The majority of you were spot on! She was not looking to help me at all. Only take my money while denying me HRT, I may need to report her)

First off, I was late to my appointment, 15 mins. No excuses, It was pouring rain, and at the main lights, Cops and Ambulance were going thru and messed up the light signals
, took almost 10 mins before we got thru the light, and then everyone was driving 20mph slower than normal on the highway. ' What could I do?

Right aways she is nasty "You are late, this had better not happen, I still expect my full check for a full session, you have the check?

I said "sure no problem, it is full payment. I understand that. Sorry I was late, I actually left early and happen to get stuck at a light due to an accident. Nothing I could do. Sorry"

She continued for 5 minutes about how she can not help me if I am not there for a full session... How there is no acceptable excuse. bla. bla. bla,. I tried to interrupt, saying "sorry" a bunch.

Finally I say "Look I was late, and it can't happen again, we established that, I payed you the full amount, and we now waisted 5 more minutes on you telling me ALL the reasons I can not be late. Got it! I won't be late again. Can we move on?"

Quiet for 2 minutes

So she asks me "Ok, so how are things with you? is there something you want to talk about"

"Comfort", I reply.

She looks at me queerly, "What do you mean comfort?"

I tell her "I came to you for guidance and counseling for my transition, I am not here for your permission to go on HRT. I am going on HRT and I want a Therapists I feel comfortable with to be there for me when I transition."

She asks "Well are you uncomfortable with me? are you saying you want to get a different therapists."

I reply "Look, I thought you were alright but I feel that you don't trust me, and yet I have no reason to lie to you.  You made me uncomfortable by accusing me of already doing hormones, you said it 4 times in our last session."

She says," This is the same questions I ask other patients"

I say," Oh, and you ask them 4 times and on the last time, draw out an hourglass  stopping at my breast area, and then say "explain all this and why do you have boobs?" "

She says "I never said that!"

I say "What!, you most definitely did, and made me very uncomfortable. With your line of questioning , each worded a bit different , you were insinuating that I was on hormones, you were trying to manipulate me in to saying untruths."

She says "You are the one trying to manipulate people, you came in here day 1 asking about HRT, acting like you know everything, now you are telling me that you will get HRT with or without a letter from me, I will be calling your doctor for sure"

I said "Go for it! She sent me here for HRT, she wanted me to establish a good relationship with a Therapists because she is ready to start me on HRT, I am as healthy as I been in years and she says we are good to go. Best to start it now before a lymes disease relapse. Did you get the paperwork she sent over?"

Her "Yes"

Me "Did you read it?"

pause...

Her "No, not yet"

me "Then how can you say I am manipulating you? If you read the documents you can see my hormone levels are normal, proof I am not taking meds, and there is a letter from my doctor explaining the hormonal balance vs lymes disease issue. and what her agenda is"

Her "This is not about lymes disease. This is about your mental health."

Me "Wait, you are wrong, lymes disease mimics all kinds of mental and hormonal issues. Just to name a few, bi-polar, depression, anxiety can all be caused by lymes bacteria flourishing. Lymes eats testosterone and collagen causing many issues. There is a whole list. Try researching it sometime, it is a fascinating bacterium.

Her "You are here about mental health issues"

Me "No, I am here about HRT, my mental health is fine. Yes, a few years back when I was very sick, I was depressed, maybe bi-polar, had a drinking problem... but not now, I feel great, I don't drink, I eat right." I look forward to the future again, I am happy until I visit you."

Her "I think you still have some underlying mental health issues that need to be evaluated"

Me "Of course you do, If there is some mental disorder you can label me with, you will do so, because that means more money for you. Well, I tell you what! I don't like pills or drugs and I will not be coerced into taking any drugs for mental conditions that you "think" exist. I would obviously get a second opinion. So whats the prognosis? Am I bi-polar , depressed, manic? what?"

Her "You are one of them for sure, just look how you are acting, so argumentative."

Me "argumentative? I am just stating facts.  You seem like you want to deter me and argue about things you know nothing about. You are hired to provide me therapy, to council me and be my friend.

Her "Oh no! we are not friends. I am only your therapists"

me "My doctor is my friend, I trust her. How can I trust you if we are not friends? If you don't even trust me ?" I trust my dentist, we are friends to an extent. The opposite of friends is enemies, I won't take advice about my mental state from an enemy.

her "I am your therapists and the law says we can not have a relationship beyond that. I do not become friends with my clients"

me "Yeah, I read that too and it says a romantic or sexual relationship, it says nothing about friends. It does not say you should treat me inhumanly.  So you treat all your clients this badly?, interesting"

her ... silence

me "Does it bother you that I am more intelligent than you? I can see it bothers you, but I have an allergy to BS, I am not going to put up with it from anyone."

Her (scribbling in pad) "Ahh see there , delusions of grandeur"

me "haha seriously? you are now calling facts ,delusions. Pick any test, even an advanced psychology test and I will score higher than you without studying, I guarantee it.

her "Superiority Complex!"

me "Yes, you have had one since I met you, I was hoping we could work thru it."

silence...

me " So tell me, do you think I am bipolar, is that the one you are going with. I need to know so I can get a second opinion from my other therapist."

her "Could be"

me "So your not going to tell me? 't feels like you don't even care about me, care about my well being at all. I told some of my friends about our last encounter and the cisgender ones say that it sounds like you don't know how to help me or want to. My transgender friends say you are acting as a "Gatekeeper". The worse they have heard of."

Very angrily she states "I do not care what your friends think."

I said "Yeah, I see this, and you don't care what my Doctor says, and you don't care what my lab results say, you didn't care to read them. You don't care what I say. You don't care about me at all , only my money.

her "You don't even care to show up for you counseling on time, so apparently you don't care about your own well being"

Me "Oh back to this again, I already apologized profusely for that, are we going to go in circles now?"

her "You have been late to every one of our sessions!"

me " That is a blatant lie! I was early to all my other sessions, you let me in late. That is the second time you lied to my face today, I can never trust you!"

her "we are done, get out of my office NOW or I am calling the police"

me "wow really, well I am putting a stop payment on that check?"

her " If you do I will contact you Doctor and trust me, I will make sure you NEVER get HRT"

me " pfft, ha, good luck with that, you are a nut!"

her "Get out of my office right NOW! I am dialing the police now"

me "later... you know you don't have to be such a bitch"

I closed the door softly (wanted to slam it but didn't). I called my Doctors office right away and told them to not give her any more Info, that she is no longer my therapist. I briefed them on what happened, and they want to hear more about it on my appointment Friday, the were not happy with her. I also went to the bank and payed to have the check stopped.I am looking into filing a formal complaint. I may also post some online reviews to warn others.

I am actually quite calm about the whole ordeal, I figured I would give her the benefit of the doubt and try one more session with her. What a mistake that was! I should of listened to the majority of you folks here! That woman is a quack!

Hugs,
-Jade

I've been afraid of changing, cuz I built my life around you.
but time makes you bolder, children get older , I'm getting older too.
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