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Started by rana, December 29, 2005, 08:54:55 AM

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rana

Hello everyone :)
I'm rana, I cannot believe my good luck to have found this place.  How did that old song go, "A Sea of Heartbreak" but seems I have just seen a harbour with a light :)
I only exist virtually - on the internet - and yet down the track I hope & plan to exist in real life, not all the time but just now & then.
I have a heart full of stuff to say, yet cannot seem to be able to put it to words - at this time :)  later on thou :))
I read all the posts in the forums here; the topics touch my soul and I find the advice & comments gentle & kindly & very helpful.
Till next time
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Peggiann

Welcome Rana,

I like your name. You're right in finding a gentle,kindly, and very helpful. Enjoy your visits and share with us when you able. I'm Leah's SO.

Will visit again later.
Peggiann
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stephanie_craxford

Hello there, and welcome to Susan's.  As you have read in the forums Susan's provides support to the transgendered community and their SO's.  Please ensure that you read the rules that govern this site and feel free to ask questions if there is something in them that you do not understand.

The site depends on the activity of it's members so do feel free to post replies, comment's and ideas, and take part in the forums where you can.  There is lots of information to be found in the Wiki and don't be afraid to ask for advise or help.  So relax, you're among friends.

Chat later,

Steph
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Denise

Welcome Rana:

I hope you ejoy this room  as well as I do.

There is a lot of girls willing to help, and all you have to do is ask.
Enjoy your visits and please share with us too

Denise
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Jillieann Rose

Hi Rana,
Welcome to the best TG place on the internet.

I'm also very thankful for finding this place.

You said,
QuoteI have a heart full of stuff to say, yet cannot seem to be able to put it to words
I have found at Susan's the more you share the more you learn.
So don't be shy. Just share your thoughts. People here are very kind and sympathetic.

Again welcome to the Susan's.
:)
Jillieann :icon




 
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Cassandra

Hi Rana,

Welcome to Susan's. It is good to find that safe harbour in life. You can always feel safe coming  here. It is as you have found full off good caring people who will be there for you when the sea of life gets a little stormy. So fix yourself a cup of tea, or other relaxing beverage, sit down, take your shoes off and set a spell.

Good Journey,

Cassie
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Elven

Hejsa Rana    :)
Kristi
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Shelley

#7
Hi Rana,

Welcome to Susan's and there is plenty of time to share that heart full. I think you will find us a fairly receptive bunch who loves to share. So take your time and share with us at your will.

Shelley
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molly

Hi Rana:  Welcome to Susans.  In a very short time you will find the words to decribe your feelings and thoughs.   Wisdom and knowledge are freely provided and you are always made to feel welcomed.

Molly
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Louise

Welcome to Susan's.  You will find a great variety of viewpoints and experiences here from all places on the TG spectrum.  I am by no means the most active member here, but I have been coming to Susan's for about eight years.  It has consistently been an open and friendly forum for anyone who respects the reasonable rules.
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rana

Thank you everyone for your generous and friendly welcome :)  It was really wonderful to log on and read your replies to my post.
Peggiann,  how fortunate Leah is to have you :) I love my wife greatly but she may well be the rock that wrecks rana's hopes forever :(  yet I am optimistic, I know she loves me too, and since I have told her about me (rana) our relationship has got much better.
Thank you for your nice comment re my name.  Its funny in that it was not a name I chose to express my feminine self, (geez I cringe when I read that, it sounds so, well affected -- yet I don't know how else to say it :(  ) it was a name I used in another chatroom that often argued about political things.  Ranavolana was the last queen of Madagascar before the French came, strong willed, stubbon, reactionary and just maybe a little foolish which in many ways fits my personality.
I decided to use that existing name when I discovered TS chat; Yet what comes up - You have spelt the name wrongly (bugger, so I have :(  ) . So you are a (Drag) Queen then? (geez that connotation sailed right over my head when I chose ranavolana :(  ).  Do you know rana is latin for frog? (So nice of you to tell me that).  But I did say stubbon, and I prefer & identify with rana :)
Thank you Stephanie (yes, I did read the rules :) they are essential), Denise, Jillieann, Cassandra, Elven(Danske :)  ),Shelley, molly & Louise.  I hope I dont end up pestering you all with questions (tell me if I get painful) and I look forward to sharing your company and friendship
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Leah

When we were choosing a name for me, others came up like Honey because that's what Peggiann calls me most of the time. Then others came in to like arnry, and smart A$$, and Bad ____. I can take it or dish it out, but I'd rather dish it out. That's why names of the sort just mentioned.

Peggiann came up with Leah and told me how a young woman in the pageant system had impressed her so with her desire to become as feminine and womanly as she could. Her stuggle to become graceful and charming and having to learn all the feminine things that had not been shared or didn't come natural to her. Her name was leah. I could relate to what was ahead for that young woman.

Peggiann showed me it written out in fancy writing, calligraghy. It was pretty and I could write it nicely too. So it stuck.

Leah


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JenniferElizabeth

Hi and Welcome Rana,
I hope you enjoy this haven,and all the loving and SMART ladies in here. If you need help dont be afaid to ask , they will all help you out. When I was chosing names, I got mine from a popular
series of books for young adult girls. See, I never liked to read that much. Then one day, shopping in a thrift store here I happened to come across the book. Read the back cove and thought would be a good read. Not knowing it was part of a series. Well, the the main girls in the book were Elizabeth and Jessica, so, I took Elizabeth from it. The series is called 'Sweet
Valley High" Then I got a novel called "Possessions" by Judith
Micheal. And found my first name in it Jennifer. But, I had always liked Jennifer. But, the book brought it home for me and I fit well with Elizabeth. Anyway enjoy!.
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stephanie_craxford

Quote from: melissa_girl on January 09, 2006, 03:36:54 PM
Welcome to Susans rana.

Don't forget about the men here too.  I wouldn't want Dennis (either one) or Andre or any other guy to feel left out.

Melissa

:)
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Peggiann

Haven't heard back from you in a while am hoping your wife isn't that rock in particular that you spoke of.

Hope you had a Happy New Years.

Smiles,
Peggiann
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Kendall

Hi Rana,
Welcome to the site. There are many diverse people that come to this site TGs, SOs, and even others. I hang out in the fashion part of the site a lot, and love having more posts there. Have fun and enjoy the site and posts. Start your own too according to the rules the others have pointed out.
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rana

Thank you Leah, Jennifer, melissa and wickham :)
Wickham I have enjoyed reading your tips on fashion & makeup & have looked with interest at the info on your web page.  Wish that I had the knowledge - any attempts I made, I end up looking like a clown or a drunken prostitute :( good makeup is definately an art and a science & obviously- as stated - requires heaps of practice.

Peggiann, I do come often & read the forum posts - info & experiences and topics contained are fantastic & very helpful.  Sadly being Australian when I get to chat most US people are asleep - thats the problem with living on different ends of the earth I guess.
Actually I will take this opportunity to ask your advice - I note that you always have a clear & helpful take on things :) .  Let be give you a brief background.

From time to time I used to dress up in my wifes clothes put on her makeup, was as if my spirit was about to soar like a bird - then I would see myself and was if my wings were broken, I would come crashing down amid feelings of dispair & disgust and resolve  never to do it again - and so things would go on till next time.
A bit over a year ago circumstances were such that I acknowledged the rana part of me,  one small part of it was the internet, amongst which was my reading of web pages of other men whose circumstances were very similar to mine but they had the courage of their convictions and did somthing about it - coming across as decent people & definately not gay or perverted.
In short I told my wife, her reaction was strange, more accepting that I was expecting (in some things) but when she heard that I visited TS chat sites her reaction was one of deep anger. (It was suggested to me that I should have discussed rana with her instead of with other people - which was a spot on observation thats how she saw it I realise now).
I said I would seek therapy and to her great surprise I did.  It was the best thing that could have happened to me, after each session I would go home & discuss it with her, she was extremely interested, I had always came across to her as loving but remote and inscrutable & insensitive (self absorbed really - but it amounts to the same thing).
Anyway, our relationship has improved so very greatly in every aspect - we are more open with another, do much more together & enjoy each others company more fully.  By unspoken mutual agreement no further discussion of rana has taken place until our children leave home (another 6 weeks).  I now shave my legs and keep them that way, my wife objected at first but since stopped and when we make love she strokes them so I am hoping maybe she is at ease with some things.

The problem? came a few days ago, since we go walking & swimming together we are fitter & have lost weight, my wife had some of her clothes that no longer fitted her and we were going to drop them off in a  charity bin.  There was a pair of shorts that would have fitted me, so I thought 'why not', and suggested that they were worth keeping, my wife said that she would not be wearing them again so I  thought its now or never & said 'said what about for me'.  She then said no they were too feminine - then quickly "Oh and they wrinkle too easily, never look neat".

There you have it,  I know I have to discuss this, but frankly I am scared - things are really good - I dont want to jeapordise them--- but :( 
Peggiann its not advice I want, I know what I have to do, but how to go about things is worrying me :(

Geez what a loong post - am sorry everyone,   I rabbit on :(
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Kendall

Read many posts here, and you will see many times it gets worse the longer things are hidden, deceived, and suppressed. I personally dont think time will change the reaction of any person too much. Maybe just the way one is told, and how often, but I dont think opinions can greatly be changed by waiting. If anything, I hear of more anger that people are being deceived for longer amounts of time. I dont think that perceptions of relationships after being telling , can change that much either. I think its all based on mostly long term beliefs learned long ago. Maybe a fraction can be influenced. If I hadnt of told my current long ago during the earlier times, I would have had much harder time of doing it the longer I waited till my hiding of it would have got me in serious problems.

You have layed a foundation for anything you say, since you have mentioned the sites you visitted.

The children will leave soon so it seems like an ideal time to tell how you really feel.
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elleane

Just wanted to say Hi Rana! 
Lovely to see you on forums and chat - I apologise for not having replied sooner! .

Anyway - I know I'll bump into you on chat  very soon so - Hi again!  Lovely to see you here at Susans!
:) :icon_biggrin:

elleane
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Peggiann


Good morning Rana,

I'm up at odd hours and sometimes I have nothing to do. So while most people in USA are sleeping I am up reading posts. I sleep some 4 or 5 hours nightly which is good compared to what it was before HRT for me. So let me know when your going to be availible to chat and I meet you there.

Peggiann its not advice I want, I know what I have to do, but how to go about things is worrying me

You are probably right in your thinking that it was Rana's talking to someone else.
It was suggested to me that I should have discussed rana with her instead of with other people - which was a spot on observation thats how she saw it I realise now).

We want to be trusted yes, we want talked to about everything in our partners life is an understatement. We find securety in this. It helps us be prepared for what is to come.

By unspoken mutual agreement no further discussion of rana has taken place until our children leave home (another 6 weeks).

We also want loyalty and respect. "Timing is everything" some people say. If some how there is an agreement of no further discussion of Rana, untill the children leave home... Honer this...not bring it up 6 weeks to soon. Mentally she will not be in the right frame of mind because of that mutual agreement. No pair of shorts is worth an undoing.

Women some of the time aren't as practical as the male side of things... and too... the subject not being approached for so long then probably wasn't thinking of saving money for what you may want to by. Could also be it felt too much like girlfreinds for her yet. Cramping the space sort-to-speek. In the mode you both were in, you were her spouse not Rana. Mind set not right, so the incident felt out of context, like a paragragh from a murder mistry in a childs bedtime storybook. May even felt like you were not being Rana but maybe copying your spouse. Or she may have thought Rana too special to wear cast-offs or hand me downs.


I now shave my legs and keep them that way, my wife objected at first but since stopped and when we make love she strokes them so I am hoping maybe she is at ease with some things.

When the 6 weeks is up don't asume anything simply ask.

There you have it,  I know I have to discuss this, but frankly I am scared - things are really good - I dont want to jeapordise them--- but   

Timing and asking if she 's ready. Sharing respect for her to be accepting of the stage is being set and the curtain is about to go up on the next scene of Rana. Asking her for help and guidence can soften things some. Letting her be part of the collaberation if she is willing. She has to be willling.

Are you still in therapy? Talk about the sessions and that the subject of Rana coming up when the kids are gone has came up. Share that you want her to be comfortable with this too is why your bringing it up. Maybe invite her for a calm relaxing evening to chat about Rana and her roll in your lives. That way she will know ahead of time what the topic is and that the time is approaching to discuss how and when she is comfortable with it all. She will probably not want wined and dined at this point because that would be too romantic maybe and it feel off some how.

Honesty, compassion and tenderness are your partners here. Take care and use extra measures of them. A bull in a china closet breaks dishes most likely. She will be awear that you are nervous and unsure of how to bring it all up ... we're alsways are tunned in to are partner more than they realize. She'll help you through it if the timeing is right.

Hope it goes well.


Smiles,
Peggiann








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