Top MtF SRS surgeon comparisons?

[Laura_7]

I'm super obsessive about how they look. As a hetero male (currently) I'm not even attracted to girls that don't have "innie" pussies. So yeah, it's a pretty big deal to me.

...and I'd probably be taking a lot of pictures of it to be perfectly honest.

Its understandable you are quite busy with the subject now.
But its like with many new things... people get used to it, and their attention goes elsewhere over time.

As said, Id see the labia as having senses... and protruding ones are better stimulated...

well.. its often in life that people have a fixed image, and don't get exactly what they want... but often its even better 

[StartingOver]

The other thing about Brassard is that he's very consistent. That's bad for someone who wants a super customizable result, but REALLY good for someone who likes what he does, because he can reproduce his typical work almost every time.  Yes, there will be variations, but the preference he has for smaller "tidier" labia minora is reliable, for example. (Even with anatomical variations, what will happen is that if he has more material he uses it to refine the overall aesthetics - he gives roughly the same depth and labia minora and majora proportion to everyone, but I think more material equals better clitoral hooding and so on.)

This is music to my ears.  In choosing a surgeon, predictable results are a great asset.  Although the examples of Brassard's work are few and far between, the reviews are almost identical: nice and neat results, no surprises (good or bad), and a great experience overall.  Someone like Bowers seems to have a far wider spread of results; some very happy, some nightmarishly bad.  I'd much rather go for "good and serviceable results almost every time" over "great results on a great day, but ->-bleeped-<-ty results on a ->-bleeped-<-ty day."

[Laura_7]

Although the examples of Brassard's work are few and far between ...

You could have a look here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,193632.msg1728766.html#msg1728766


hugs

[Venus]

I don't think it'll be that big of a deal getting a nice innie. I mean, all you really need is smallish labia minora and a puffy vulva. I imagine that could be done afterwords with a fat transfer on a worst case scenario. My mound's a little puffy already so it'd probably be the natural result.

btw that thread you linked Laura just links to another thread and it's almost all dead links inside.

I really don't like how minimalist Brassard's site is compared to everyone else. There's no surgery pictures there and hardly any description of procedures, care, facilities, or anything.

[Laura_7]

btw that thread you linked Laura just links to another thread and it's almost all dead links inside.

This should be of interest:

Brassard does tend towards small "tidy" labia minora (I'd say that picture she linked to is reasonably similar to the result I got 11 years later from him, which is impressive consistency!).

[Laura_7]

I really don't like how minimalist Brassard's site is compared to everyone else. There's no surgery pictures there and hardly any description of procedures, care, facilities, or anything.

Well imo they are kind of afraid of being sued...

They send out a dvd if asked...
and something like it is on youtube... a compilation...

Its not all roses... he sometimes seems to be not really open to individual changes...

[Serenation]

Its understandable you are quite busy with the subject now.
But its like with many new things... people get used to it, and their attention goes elsewhere over time.

As said, Id see the labia as having senses... and protruding ones are better stimulated...

well.. its often in life that people have a fixed image, and don't get exactly what they want... but often its even better 

in regards to labiaplasty cis women get. information from a surgeon

A labiaplasty performed appropriately should never affect nerves as the surgical dissection does not really extend beyond the tissue being removed.  There may be reduced sensation on the edge of the labia minora proper for weeks to two months but this is not considered a contribution to sexual pleasure.  The patient response to labiaplasty is almost unanimously positive with reported improved comfort especially in tight fitting clothing, improved sexual enjoyment/sensation/pleasure and improved confidence.  Women usually enjoy sex much more after labiaplasty especially when I include a fat grafting technique I employ on the labia majora.  The added plumpness to the labia majora adds a significant aesthetic and youthful appearance and enhances the pleasant sensations of sexual intercourse as well as reducing any painful contact through the simple act of cushioning.  Addition of 'g-spot fat grafting also significantly enhancess pleasure for both partners.

I can't find any info saying innie's aren't as good stimulation wise.

[Laura_7]

I can't find any info saying innie's aren't as good stimulation wise.

Well outer parts are being moved around and are having a larger surface...
its simply physics...

and well they profit from the shortening procedure so shortcomings are not very likely to appear there imo...

[Serenation]

Well outer parts are being moved around and are having a larger surface...
its simply physics...

and well they profit from the shortening procedure so shortcomings are not very likely to appear there imo...

You have the same amount of skin to work with wherever you go. Think about it , whether you distribute that skin 30/70 50/50 60/40 between the minora and majora it's the same skin and same surface.

srs surgeons profit also and people have no problems referencing them.

[AnonyMs]

I really don't like how minimalist Brassard's site is compared to everyone else. There's no surgery pictures there and hardly any description of procedures, care, facilities, or anything.

Well imo they are kind of afraid of being sued...

There was a post a while ago where someone reported that Dr Brassard made them sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) prior to surgery. I can't find that post, but I remember it well because its quite shocking if true. It would explain why there's so few negative reviews and published results, although I do know of several.

[Venus]

Well imo they are kind of afraid of being sued...


There was a post a while ago where someone reported that Dr Brassard made them sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) prior to surgery. I can't find that post, but I remember it well because its quite shocking if true. It would explain why there's so few negative reviews and published results, although I do know of several.

No, I've definitely read that too. I think it may have been on a ->-bleeped-<- thread rather than here... but I definitely recall reading that Brassard did that and it was kind of mind blowing.

At this point I've read some super bad stuff about Brassard though (facilities & nurses included, as well as after care, not just the SRS itself) so he's not even in my consideration. It's just between Bowers & McGinn, with leaning towards McGinn.

[Jenna Marie]

I can at least say definitively that I did not sign an NDA. I suppose someone else might have... but I never even heard of it while I was there.

[Venus]

I can at least say definitively that I did not sign an NDA. I suppose someone else might have... but I never even heard of it while I was there.

That goes to show that we can't really believe everything we read on the internet. Here's the post that I read on ->-bleeped-<-:

I read a post on Susans.org a while ago where someone said that Dr Brassard makes patients sign an NDA not to publish their results. It's hard to believe, but it if true it might explain why there's so few pictures published. I tried finding it just now, but couldn't.

I believe the porn star Mia Fever went to Brassard. You could google that...

Searching Google here are the only two threads that it finds:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=148586.20
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=7260.0

The first one doesn't have anything relevant, it's about wargames. The second one isn't relevant either, as it's just a link to epidural procedures. If there was actually a post here about that it seems to have been removed, as far as I can tell... if it ever existed at all.

Other girls that went to Brassard can weigh in but at this point I'm just going to assume that it's inaccurate. It doesn't even really make much sense considering in that same post it mentions a pornstar that used Brassard, which would clearly be breaching an NDA not to publish her results.

[Jenna Marie]

Yeah, that's weird. Since that person couldn't find the thread either, it does suggest that it's either removed or never existed (and bear in mind that moderators do remove threads which they feel malign surgeons in an actionable way). I would think that if it were happening, I'd at least have *heard* about it while I was chatting with everyone there. And the porn star would be easy enough to chase down if they truly did want to enforce such a thing, so if she's really out there, I agree with you that the NDA is probably fantasy.

(But again, I can't call someone else a liar for sure, I can only say I never saw a hint of this NDA thing.)

[AnonyMs]

I recall the original post here and I replied to it. I don't recall who wrote it though. I guess we're not going to make any progress with it.

I'm not saying Brassard's doing this as I have no idea, but some companies use legal agreements as a way of filtering bad reviews from Internet. They let the good ones stay up, and get the bad ones removed. The end result looks like unbiased good reviews, but its not. People don't even have to realize they have signed a contract until they get a letter telling them to take it down or else.

If Brassard were doing it, then I'd suggest that Mia Fever has a very decent looking result. However its hard to imagine he could do it without someone saying something, so I doubt its true.

[Laura_7]

Well imo they are kind of afraid of being sued...

They send out a dvd if asked...
and something like it is on youtube... a compilation...

Its not all roses... he sometimes seems to be not really open to individual changes...

The being sued was an assumption as a general opinion concerning their facility.
Its possible to be open about graphical results and show quite a few or its possible to show few, and only in consultations.
If there are fewer results around imo people are less likely to be disappointed...

You have the same amount of skin to work with wherever you go. Think about it , whether you distribute that skin 30/70 50/50 60/40 between the minora and majora it's the same skin and same surface.

But its another kind of stimulation if its parts being able to move around, also to the inside, or if its fixed.

srs surgeons profit also and people have no problems referencing them.

It was just a general hint to make a few own thoughts because sometimes its like ads, its partial.

[StartingOver]

From a legal standpoint, there's no way (in the US) that any "non-disclosure agreement" would be able to prevent a person from displaying or discussing their own body.  Not even close.  The likelihood of Brassard actually being able to enforce the terms of such an agreement in court are absolutely zero.  Which is why the Brassard NDA is a complete myth.

[Laura_7]

Which is why the Brassard NDA is a complete myth.

Like the Made in Canada tatoo on one of the labia 

[Lady_Oracle]

Something I have yet to see mentioned in this thread is that in the surgeries here in north america the labia minora usually doesn't extend all the way to the vaginal entrance. I think it has something to do with preserving the tissue and minimizing the chance of necrosis or something like that. From all the research I've done on brassard this seems to be the typical aesthetic minus the tiny labia minora. A labiaplasty will give the labia minora a fuller aesthetic if you really want that. From the all the pics I've seen of the Thailand surgeries especially of Suporn, they seem to be able to create a full labia minora that extends to the vagina canal in the initial surgery. 

I'm definitely going to brassard then getting a labiaplasty after.

[Jenna Marie]

Hey, now, I totally did wake up with the tattoo.