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Late SRS revisions possible in Thailand?

Started by anjaq, October 09, 2015, 03:52:28 AM

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Laura_7

Well here are two from the links above:

I had SRS and labiaplasty with Dr. Sanguan, 1 year and 1 month ago respectively. I find him a very good, most professional, experienced and friendly surgeon, as well as his friendly and supportive staff.

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I am more sensitive after having labiaplasty with Dr. Chettawut.  He was so afraid to reposition my mispositioned clitoris... so worried about sensitivity issues...  I had to keep throwing money at him ^_^ .  But the truth is that before labiaplasty I didn't like having my clitoris touched and now it actually feels good.  Also Dr. Chettawut apparently removed the excess erectile tissue...

Maybe a few more people can add something...
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anjaq

Quote from: Rejennyrated on October 15, 2015, 02:51:59 PM
Well in 2010 I had a very successful update to early 1980's vintage surgery, which involved effectively creating a clitoris and hood out of thin air! God alone knows how he managed that trick! It's not perfect but its pretty good.

However I regret to say that this minor miracle was performed by a UK surgeon namely Mr James Bellringer FRCS.

So as a general point only, it is possible - and yes I am orgasmic - and yes it is sensate.

Wow, that sounds like a miracle. How did he do that¿ Usually of the nerves are cut, it's next to impossible to mend them again to make a sensate clit. Could he mend my lost nerves in the breasts, too?😉
I don't insist on a Thai surgeon, but I had the impression that they had the most experience. UK would not be bad, there might even be a miniscule chance that I could eventually get this paid for by our NHS. Is he experienced with GRS and has some reputation?

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SorchaC

Mr Bellringer is reasonably experienced in SRS, He use to work for the NHS in Charring Cross which is where I met him. He left CX in 2014 after some disagreements over the way things were organised there and now does SRS and other treatments from a private hospital in Wimbledon South London. There are mixed reports about his abilities as a surgeon but I found him to be a straight to the point type of guy who had a sense of humour.

Hope that helps

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Sorcha
Full Time : July 2007,  ;D ;D
HRT : December 2007,
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SRS Dr Chettawut March 2015, ;D ;D
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Rejennyrated

Hi Anjac

the uk has THREE specialist GCS surgeons who do NOTHING else but GRS.

They are Mr Philip Thomas FRCS, Mr James Bellringer FRCS, and Ms Tina Rashid FRCS

They are all good surgeons - and Bellringer & Thomas in particular have a lot of experience of revision work.

In terms of nerves you are getting confused between the central nervous system (spinal column & brain) which cannot regenerate - and the peripheral nervous system (everything from the spinal root ganglion onwards) which CAN and under right circumstances almost always DOES regenerate.

The right circumstances by the way means a decent diet (preferably rich in folate and B12), good wound care and healing, and good general health. Under those circumstances peripheral nerves do recover although it takes time which is why often people are anorgasmic for some while after surgery.

So how did he do it? Well he found some nerve tissue in the surplus remaining errectile tissue and he carfully fashioned a bud out of it using available labial skin to form a hood. he did warn me that it might not work - but it did! and rather well too! Like I say its not perfect but its a whole lot better than the nothing I had had for the 25 years before.

I think our Uk surgeons get an undeserved bad rap. They may not enjoy the rockstar status of the Thai boys, but they know their stuff and personally I've always found they are good. Then again as I am perhaps biased, after all I'm a uk medical student and I've worked in some of the theatres that they operate in...
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Laura_7

Quote from: Rejennyrated on October 16, 2015, 08:26:39 AM

In terms of nerves you are getting confused between the central nervous system (spinal column & brain) which cannot regenerate -
well... this could be argued  :)
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The right circumstances by the way
There are very promising studies concerning electrical fields...
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So how did he do it? Well he found some nerve tissue in the surplus remaining errectile tissue and he carfully fashioned a bud out of it using available labial skin to form a hood. he did warn me that it might not work - but it did! and rather well too! Like I say its not perfect but its a whole lot better than the nothing I had had for the 25 years before.
Great idea and result  :)

Well there also should be a g/pspot. :)
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Rejennyrated, So glad Mr James Bellringer was able to greatly improve your sensation and appearance.  Surgeons keeps learning more all the time on how to improve things even on your 1980's procedure.  There must have been some underlying tissue to form into a sensitive clitoris for you along with a hood around it. 
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anjaq

That sounds really marvellous. You must be so happy to get this revision after 25 years. In the 1980ies they did not make a clitoris - I know that even in the late 1990ies , some surgeons did not make a sensate clitoris, I was lucky enough to get one and definitely don't want to loose it now in a revision, so that is why I would want to be very careful about this idea.

Nerves definitely dont always recover. I lost 90% of sensation in both breasts due to augmentation and it never came back. And apparently there are no obviously known ways to restore those nerves either... :( :(

Since that surgeon in the UK works privately now, I guess one could as a foreign patient also consult him, so I will put him on the list.

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laura.cornwell.779

Be honest. If you can't tell a prospective partner, then move on.

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Laura_7

Quote from: anjaq on October 16, 2015, 05:32:52 PM

Nerves definitely dont always recover. I lost 90% of sensation in both breasts due to augmentation and it never came back. And apparently there are no obviously known ways to restore those nerves either... :( :(

There are ways experimented with, where both ends are cut and a kind of pipe is laid around the joint.
There is hope this will be better in the future.

hugs
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anjaq

Quote from: Laura_7 on October 17, 2015, 05:37:00 AM
There are ways experimented with, where both ends are cut and a kind of pipe is laid around the joint.
There is hope this will be better in the
Apparently they can fix nerves in the face and on hands, but maybe they never put enough interest in making this work for breasts and female genitalia. Maybe this even is a bit misogynistic? After all they know the physiology of the clitoris only for about 20 years...

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Laura_7

Quote from: anjaq on October 18, 2015, 12:42:39 PM
Apparently they can fix nerves in the face and on hands, but maybe they never put enough interest in making this work for breasts and female genitalia. Maybe this even is a bit misogynistic? After all they know the physiology of the clitoris only for about 20 years...
Well the technique is there.
Imo its a question of time until its applied to other places.

And there are other studies... with electrical fields...
so there might be hope for the future.

You might also look up other remedies... there are some essential oils which might also help nerve healing...
some might be applied in moderation...
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anjaq

Essential oils? Really? I doubt such measures will help after such long time. I tried heparin gel and progesterone gel plus massages. But I think soft methods like this are only good in the initial healing phase.

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Laura_7

Quote from: anjaq on October 18, 2015, 01:15:19 PM
Essential oils? Really? I doubt such measures will help after such long time. I tried heparin gel and progesterone gel plus massages. But I think soft methods like this are only good in the initial healing phase.
Well don't expect miracles but you might look up a few different oils.

How long ago was your surgery ?
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anjaq

Both surgeries - GRS and breast augmentation were finished in 2001. Looong time ago. Luckily the sensation returned almost fully after GRS, sadly the reverse is true for the BA.

I was told there may be a nerve that is somehow different in trans women compared to cis women and thus more prone to be cut when a surgeon is not knowing this - not sure if this is really true.

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Laura_7

Quote from: anjaq on October 18, 2015, 06:00:06 PM
Both surgeries - GRS and breast augmentation were finished in 2001. Looong time ago. Luckily the sensation returned almost fully after GRS, sadly the reverse is true for the BA.

I was told there may be a nerve that is somehow different in trans women compared to cis women and thus more prone to be cut when a surgeon is not knowing this - not sure if this is really true.

Well the breasts itself should be the same... only possibility might be nerves a bit in a different place... but this should not matter...
there are reports of nerve loss in cis people as well...
well as said people are working on methods to repair nerves... hopefully there will be possibilities in the future.
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anjaq

I actually asked a nerve repair surgeon and they said that after such a long time, it cannot be done anymore :'( - probably the nerves atrophied already, I guess...

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Laura_7

Quote from: anjaq on October 19, 2015, 02:35:04 PM
I actually asked a nerve repair surgeon and they said that after such a long time, it cannot be done anymore :'( - probably the nerves atrophied already, I guess...
Well I'd say keep at it.
There might be other surgeons with other techniques.
And as said all kinds of progress is made...


*hugs*
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